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Ill be there.  Thank you

Just make sure to confirm the dates. Im going off memory.

Is fountain valley close to costa mesa? If it is you should go to the scion exchange for the oc crfg. Its on the 3rd saturday of january.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 14, 2018, 10:09:40 PM »
Could the lack of tartness be that it was more ripe?

Is it typical for a budsport to taste different?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side veneer vs side cleft
« on: September 09, 2018, 12:54:47 PM »
Thanks for the responses.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Side veneer vs side cleft
« on: September 09, 2018, 09:51:34 AM »
Im getting ready to graft mangoes for the first time from budwood I got from JF (thanks). I'm not completely new to grafting, Ive done apples, plums, and peaches, but i usually stick to the brutally effective cleft graft. After reading this forum and watching tons of youtube videos im thinking of using a side cleft graft or a veneer graft.

The problem from my point is its hard to tell from the videos what is the difference between the cut on the rootstock between both techniques.
 Can anyone with knowledge of both, techniques detail what are the differences, if any?

Which technique would be more successful for a first time mango grafter? What kind of success, if any can I expect?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gratting success!!!
« on: September 01, 2018, 01:23:25 PM »
This was my first time ever grafting, but I managed to get a few successful pushes on my sweet tart Scion, (courtesy of squam) and man am I buzzing!!

I feel like those cavemen after they invented fire lol

But after all, I am a newb, so to be sure, these are successful takes right? :D

What type of graft did you use?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Garden - I started Mangoes 5-yrs ago
« on: August 31, 2018, 03:03:23 PM »
Does it get windy there?
How much do you water them? Just looking for estimate answers (no need for GPM, Lol). 


I dont get the hot warm santa ana winds as most those winds stay low in the valley, I do get some. I get high winds from ocean front from west side when its windy. On watering, I have it on deep watering every other day this year. due to heat we got I had no choice but to water.  my monthly water bill is about $230 right now. once we start to cool, I will reduce watering by 50%

Do you have to do frost protection in winter months?


on young rootstock, I would cut leaves off leaving small tips, induce growth hormone, then do a side veneer to the rootstock. I have done side veneer where budwood was twice as thick as rootstock, all you do is your cut on budwood is thinner to match rootstock cut thickness.

When you say thinner do you mean a more shallow cut? As in taking less material off of the scion?

Simon kind of covered it. I would add that fruit punch grows extremely well for me here in orange.

Kesar however is always flowering with minimal vegetative growth. I have 2 branches that are growing from around the graft union that are probably kesar and not suckers but hats about it For growth. Otherwise it has slowly been dying back or flowering for 18 months.

Orange sherbet is growing like lz for me. Loving the heat.

I had constant flowering with a mallika (on turpentine) and then it just died.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Brutal heatwave 7/06/18 in Socal
« on: July 12, 2018, 10:44:09 PM »
The worst sun damage ive seen on guava is to the fruit on the exposed side and some minor damage to leaves. The seem to be be very resilient trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango grafting question
« on: July 07, 2018, 03:25:54 PM »
I completely agree with wslau. As long as the nightly average lows are above 62F, you shouldn’t have to worry about flowering on the new push. I like to protect newly grafted scions from direct sun if temps are predicted to be above 90F. The first couple weeks are extremely critical and the scion/graft Union has to be protected. Direct sun on the union can cause evaporation even under the buddy tape/parafilm and condensation can cause mold or rot.


Would wrapping the graft union in white poly tape enough protection?

For regular decidous grafts i usually do full parafilm wrap of union and scion. Then wrap the union in white poly budding tape.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango grafting question
« on: July 07, 2018, 11:08:09 AM »
Resurrecting this topic in order to keep info that is very related in one thread so that posterity can find the answer in one thread instead of having to search through multiple.

What is the absolute max temperature that will be beneficial to grafting?

Im asking because my area is in the midst of a heat wave 119F, 104F,101F, 98F (in the 90s for the near future).

Would grafting in 119F be advisable? 100F? 95F? 90F? 85?

What minimum night time temperature is best? Thanks.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What's infecting my apple tree?
« on: July 05, 2018, 12:17:26 PM »
Looks like aphids to me. Blast off with hose.

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: variegated citrus
« on: June 29, 2018, 09:26:28 AM »
Idk if they will ship internationally but you could check out the CCPP riverside citrus program.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Stone fruits?
« on: June 28, 2018, 09:33:02 AM »
My stone fruits have all been disappointments. It seems the ones that flowered and fruited heavily last year have no fruit set this year. Inca plum looks to be my only constant producer. Some are still young but the majority are eyeing the chopping block to be replaced by sub-tropicals.

I experienced the same this year with all stone fruit. Last year it was loaded, branch breaking, needed to be thinned multiple times. This year i got maybe 10 plums on a 5 yr old tree and maybe 20 nectarines on 4 yr old tree. Im thinking that heat wave in january followed by cool weather really messed up the fruit production for me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamarind in CA?
« on: May 11, 2018, 07:41:56 PM »
Here is what the california rare fruit growers have to say about it .

As far as i am aware, there is no restrictions on Mango scions. I believe Mango plants with soil/roots require phytosanitary inspection.


Thanks. It us socal folks much greater range of options to be able to buy budwood from florida.

Maybe pomegrantes? Possibly opuntia (nopales) the prickly pear is decent fruit, really refreshing, but nothing special. Im about 20 mi inland from downtown LA and mature tropical guavas trees seem to be very drought tolerant. Young trees need to be watered.

Its hard to pick no irrigation trees because we get all our rain in winter/early spring and we usually dont get rain in the summer months.

Is there any risk of dept of agriculture in CA confiscating plant material?

Keo savoy is a popular Thai mango. It is crunchy and sweet when eaten still green, it  is soft and sweet when eaten ripe. It is flowering right now. I want to sell it for $70.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Budwood Graft
« on: April 25, 2018, 09:02:19 AM »
Hope you have success with your grafted Sweet Tart. From my own experience, mango grafts are most successful from late July to Early September when temperatures are highest and both the scion and rootstock are in full bud swell and growth mode.

Here is a recent photo of my Sweet Tart mango tree blooming on manila rootstock. I grafted this Sweet Tart in Late July 2016 and it has grown quite nicely over the past 1 1/2 years. The Bottom Photo is my Coconut Cream Mango Tree which was grafted to a manila seedling in late August 2016.


Is it normal for leaves to be that yellow during this time of year in CA?

Its still under patent until 2020 i believe. Also, you might have more luck in the temperate fruit section.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: March 30, 2018, 10:54:06 AM »
Guys, don't let cuttings make fruit.  Snip that stuff off.  All energy needs to be diverted to making roots.

Thanks i did end up clipping them off. Amazing how many i had to take off. But for curiosity sake, would the fruit developed had i left them on and would the quality be any good?

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