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Would you ship only 1 or 2 plants?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocados in containers?
« on: August 04, 2019, 03:31:56 AM »
I've read over a dozen threads via search but they all deal with the idea of avocados in containers tangentially.  I also read Dr John Yoshimi Yonemoto's presentations.  So I want to make things explicit.

What's the smallest container Wurtz would fruit in?  What's the smallest container Reed would fruit in?  I have a lot of LED panel light in the winter so I'm not worried about that.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: August 04, 2019, 03:23:32 AM »
OK, everything I read about Angie was unicorns and stardust and now I'm reading this a few years after I bought one.  :)

So what container mangoes (if any) are top tier?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mangos Are Left (Florida)?
« on: August 04, 2019, 02:00:02 AM »
If anyone wants to sell and ship some fruits, especially Maha Chanok, please let me know.

Anyone shipping mangoes?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 'Honey Kiss' mango
« on: August 04, 2019, 01:49:07 AM »
Would anyone care to compare the flavor of this with Angie, Carrie, Nam Doc Mai, Mallika, Dwarf Hawaiian or Edward?

Or, as a bunny trail Carrie with Angie?  Some people on FB said they can't taste a difference between Angie and Carrie.


I may be able to get a Crimson Red finger lime.  If so is there anything that would complement it?  Is there any extra benefit from also getting a Jali Red or other variety?  Anything else that tastes different but top quality, has larger pods or whatever?  Will yields of the CT increase with another variety?  Has anyone tasted Red Champagne, Jali Red and Crimson Tide and can comment on how they compare?

Anyone know how to contact @starling1 ?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: June 26, 2018, 07:01:46 PM »
Now it's been a year.  Any comments on how the grafted M4 is doing, growth habit, flavor, anything else?


Thanks for all the replies.  If I were to post branch and leaf photos could anyone identify what I have?  I got it from Top Tropicls and it says Eugenia aggregata - Cherry of the Rio Grande.  So I don't know which half of the label is correct.  :)   Has anyone bought their CotRG and tasted the fruit?

Any good sources in the USA for the best ones mentioned? 

How do you like the Cherry of the Rio Grande, E aggregata?  Are they reliably self fertile?  Are there Eugenia species that taste a lot better that will fruit in a pot?  Thanks.

Most of my flowers are buds, only a few are open.  It's about 3' although it was pruned to fit in the box so it was taller than that.

Hi!  I found a sale and had to pull the trigger without my usual research.  I was able to get the mangoes and guavas I wanted and picked up a few other things as well.  You know how that goes.  :)    One of the others was a starfruit that said it would fruit in containers while young.  I was like Ewan McGregor on an eclair.  ( )

It arrived with more blooms than I can count.  I don't know if it's long style or short, if it needs a pollinator or if I can use a paintbrush.  Any help would be appreciated!

Hi!  I have an opportunity to get Angie, Carrie, Mallika and Nam Doc Mai mango trees.  How similar or different in flavor are they?  Are there better dwarf choices with flavor being the primary concern?  Would Maha Chanok be a lot different or too similar to that group?  I prefer fiberless fruit with rich, sweet flavors without resinous or strong acid tastes although sweet-tart is fine.  I'd love to have different ripening times but almost all the dwarfs seem to have similar times.

Rosigold fruits twice but I've heard bad things about the flavor.  Is it as bad as Choc Anon?  Any input on that would be appreciated as well. 

For bonus points:

Here's a description of Ice Cream - do you agree with the flavor description?  How does it compare with the ones above?  Pine Island rates flavor as 4/5 with Carrie as 5/5.

'Ice Cream' is far and away the most popular of the condo mangoes. Dwarf tree, small green fruit w/ yellow flesh. Flavored like name. The tree can easily be maintained at a height of just six feet making it ideal for container growing. Although the fruit is not exactly dessert to the eyes the flavor is sweet, rich, and reminiscent of mango sorbet.

Thanks for all input!


I've ordered some jaboticabas and I'd really like to avoid killing these plants.  🙂  Has anyone written anything on Jabo care?  I guess they like lots of water.  Do their roots need air as well or do you use a heavy soil?  How deep do you plant the tree?  Which espoma or other fertilizer do you use?  How much of that, how much chelated Fe?  How much triple super phosphate do people use?  Is there an upper limit on salt PPM?  Can they take tap water?  Would pine bark be a good growing medium? (pH around 4.5)  Any compost or only vegetable compost?  How many hours sun per day or should they only be in light shade or what?  What temps are best in summer, and what temps are best in winter?  Do they need an insect or other pollinator (me?) to set fruit? Anything else I need to know?
Also, Should I up pot 1 gal plants to 7 gal right away or is it better to let it grow into a smaller pot first?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 27, 2017, 11:29:51 PM »
Thanks.  What's the maximum recommended total dissolved solids for the others?  How do the ones you mentioned taste?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 27, 2017, 03:50:09 PM »
Hi!  I'm interested in buying 2 or 3 Jaboicabas - my first ones.  What would you recommend for 1. ease of fruiting in containers and 2. the best but most different flavors.  Thanks.

Also, where's the best place to read on how to grow and fruit these plants?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Compact Mango Suggestions
« on: January 27, 2016, 01:08:36 AM »
When people describe the tomato mango as having a spice note to its taste, is that a euphemism for turpentine?  Thanks.

No spicy is a distinct mango flavor. It can sometimes be combined with a turpentine (which I would describe as piney [pleasant] vs resinous [unpleasant]).

There are quite a few mango flavors that people tend to describe (and some of the will happen in lots of combinations in some mangoes):
- Classic: Overall sweet mango flavor like in Hayden or Kent or Manila

There are other descriptions too (and the real connoisseurs will discern those), but I would say these are the basic categories.

Since there's no 'like' button I'll just say, Thanks!

I understand why you want to do this, its just the reality that if you are looking for fruit on a tree in the furst 3-4 years and in a 7 gal pot, dont waste your time.  You will cause problems with the tree in the long run and fruit quality will be basically below average.   Trees brought in a house and put under grow lights will take longer to develop,  not have a good of growth habit as ones grown in mango growing regions, and take longer and be more dufficult to get to proper fruiting age/condition.   That  combines with the fact as all of these will eventually outgrow the abikity to drag them around as you plan, it is just IMO a futile effort.  This is not meant to stop you, just a dose of a realistic view...

Thanks, I'll look up Frances Hargrave.  Pot size will be 10 - 20 gal and I already hire a moving company for my other trees so this won't be any different.  It may be tilting at windmills but I have to try at least 1.  Maybe I'll just start with 1.  I could use a link to care, feeding and pruning of mangoes.  :)   Pickering vs Frances Hargrave - thoughts?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Compact Mango Suggestions
« on: December 27, 2015, 10:18:21 PM »
When people describe the tomato mango as having a spice note to its taste, is that a euphemism for turpentine?  Thanks.

Please let's not fight over this.  The plants will move twice.  Inside near a SW window plus under a 1000W HID lamp in the fall - winter, then outside when they can handle it in the Spring.  I also have access to a green house.  It's something I want to try for reasons mentioned in the first post.

I'm only looking at ones I can keep small.  Pine Island has a list of Condo Mangoes that they recommend but their descriptions are very rosy and never mention the problems that are brought out in this forum.  Here's their list   <-- Scroll to the bottom of the page for links.

Alampur Baneshan, Carrie, Cogshall, Fairchild, Glenn, Graham, Ice Cream, Lancetilla, Nam Doc Mai, Mallika and Pickering

This forum has more up to date offerings, especially Maha Chanok and I'm open to others.

Pine Island says Carrie is a 5/5 stars for flavor.  I'd like to hear your thoughts in more detail on Carrie.  Cogshall is given a 4, Fairchild a 5, Glenn is a 5 but 15' tall, Graham, ice cream and lanticella are all 4s, Malilika, NDM and Pickering are all 5s.  Obviously you folks differ on a lot of these. 

Pickering seems to be the #1 best choice with perhaps Maha Chanok second. 

Thanks for the other fruit suggestions, I'll look in to them.

Both these mangoes are dwarfish, container suitable and have been batted around here endlessly.
  • Pickering for "I like sweet only, sweet-tart and rich complex flavors"
  • Nam Doc Mai more of a straight honey taste which has its virtues
  • Don't buy mango trees with huge fruits that cannot fully ripen at your latitude

I forgot to mention I want to avoid fiber as much as possible  :)

So the Pickering can have all 3 types of fruit?

What do you think of Maha Chanok?

Hi!  I grow citrus and figs under a 1000W HID in a room that faces SW and gets some afternoon sun.  In the Spring, summer and part of the fall they go outside.  I'd like to add other tropical fruit, especially Mango.  I've looked at Pine Island's selection but I'm interested in getting some unbiased recommendations.  It's OK if you're recommendation is to see a shrink  ;)  I'm interested in growing up to 3 mangos and would like as long a season as possible.

I've heard about a turpentine taste and of course that doesn't sound appealing to me.  I like sweet only, sweet-tart and rich complex flavors.

I grow in containers of up to 20 gallons but prefer 10 if the plant will still fruit well.  I can adjust the soil mix and fertilizer to what the plant would like.  I need to know basic mango care and if anyone has a link to a good site I'd appreciate it. 

If there are any other fruits that will do well in containers please let me know.

Edited to add:   I want to avoid fiber as much as possible  :)  If you know of good web-order sources for the plants you recommend please let me know.

Those of you in FL probably don't understand how bad the fruit situation has gotten for the North.  It used to be that they picked fruit so early it was tasteless.  Pears were ok since they'd ripen a bit off the tree but of course never as good as tree ripened.  Now they pick fruit so early that they go bad before they ever ripen.  Pears and Mangos go from hard to fermented without ever getting to just OK.

Any help is appreciated.

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