I'm considering getting a 'Morena' sapodilla tree.

Question: Do I have this right?

'Morena' sapodilla, when compared to 'Hasya' and 'Tikal' (I have both) is:

Much larger fruit than 'Tikal' and about as productive?

Slightly less-large (smaller) fruit than 'Hasya,' but much more productive?

If the above is true and quality of 'Morena' is good, then it's a must have, IMO.

P.S.   The saying that Sapodilla tastes like Brown-Sugar is a good descriptive approximation of the taste. However, having said that, this description does not do justice to the taste of an excellent quality, perfectly ripened sapodilla, IMO.

Rob, thanks for the new school jackfruit variety recommendations; I really appreciate it.

Question: Back in 2013 ( http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=3997.0 ) you said you would get rid of 'J30' jackfruit, but not now (below), now you would throw it in, how come?

Problem with that theory is UF does not recognize many of the "newer" varieties  (their list is kind of old school).

As to season, they dont always follow like say a mango or avocado.  A lot can have to do with the weather over the winter.

The reds tend to be later season, so for that I wohld pick Red Morning aka Daeng Suria.  For early, it seems as if Mai 1 tends to start coming in before others.  For mid, hard to beat a Bangkok Lemon aka Krunchy Lemon.   I would also throw in in Mai 3, J30 and one that I recently tasted from two different trees, Amber.

Unfortunately I cannot recommend Black Gold.  Its a sift textured average to below average fruit.  NS1 is another old school, average jackfruit with a lot of laytex.  Cheena, nice size and shape but again, texture is soft and its nothing I would say is a must have.

Yes, something's not right. The PIN website says that it's very productive. It grows profusely, but flower quantity has been low. About a week ago, about 8 flowers came and went, and no fruit. After several years, I've yet to get even one DF from this variety; it's started to feel like a big letdown; patience is wearing a bit thin.

I'm thinking of giving it heavy doses of fertilizer to see if I can finally get it to produce fruit.

Leo so far I have not heard of anyone with good results with this DF.  I have a couple of branches in a pot but I'm reluctant to use my last spot on it.

It's nice to have the support of other fellow recuperating Plant Addict Anonymous members.

I must confess that I'm hooked on the latest Plant Addiction thing (no not that), which is the already here (tomato fruit, tomato tree, ...) and more to come, CRISPR (Cas9...) Gene Editing Technology for creating perfect quality fruit tree varieites and fruit.

I'm having difficulty when it comes to stop thinking about reliable, perfect quality, large fruit size, Xtremely small seed(s), and excessive, obscene fruit production quantities from CRISPR modified fruit varieties like: 'Edward' mango, 'Gigantea' and 'Hasya' Sapodilla, 'Peach' palm, Sugar-Apple, Mammee, Lychee, Longan, Spanish-Lime, Sweet-Tamarind, Avocado, Mamey, Guanabana (SourSop), Jackfruit, Citrus, Peach, ...

I almost ordered a real CRISPR home lab learning kit, in order to become a CRISPR perfect quality fruit tree and fruit developer scientist.

- OK, I feel much better now.

Nice, your solution sounds easier & better than buying a BB-gun to shoot at the fruit-Rats and worrying that the pellets may fall on, and possibly damage, a neighbor's property; also, much less time consuming, and cheaper; thanx.

Put some mango on some rat traps and get rid of them.  I have mice eating my fruit.  I put out ten mouse traps every night for a few days and it makes a big dent in them.  I leave the dead mice out on a big boulder and the birds fly off with them.

Perhaps you had excessive rains that caused the mango to split. I've had the same experience with 'Young' mangos, but nothing excessive.

Here at my location in Miami, FL, it's been raining almost everyday for the past 2 weeks. Since I love the rain, I don't mind all these excessive downpours. Now I've gotten a taste of what it feels like from some articles I've read, where some Americans go to live in tropical S. America, but then just get the hell out of there after 2 straight months of nonstop rain.

Yesterday evening: Went to check out the 'Edward' mangos on the tree and found fewer hanging mangos than a couple of days before, and two of them had the bottom one third of them eaten off. Then, I followed my gaze to a fruited Papaya tree that's beside the 'Edward' mango tree, and there's a fruit-Rat on the fruited Papaya tree, with some small papaya fruit on it that had been clearly eaten at. I proceed to pick up a stone and throw it at the fruit-Rat that approximately 15 feet up in the canopy of the Papaya tree.

I thought I hit the fruit-Rat but instead, the stone bounces off the tree, dropping at my feet. I pick up the stone again and get ready for a second shot, but the fruit-Rat jumps off the 15 foot tall Papaya tree and lands on some 5 foot tall Ixora flower trees, and gets away. Needless to say, I was floored by this, a fruit-Rat that behaved like a Squirrel!

This has been happening every year, with the fruit-Rats going ONLY after the 'Edward' mangos. 'Edward' is regarded by some mango experts as arguably the best mango in Florida, the only problem being is that it appears to be a shy bearer. So, there are not enough 'Edward' mangos for me to share with the fruit-Rats (with impeccable taste).

I'm about to go off right now and remove all the remaining 'Edward' mangos from the tree. I normally don't mind sharing the fruit bounty with the wildlife. But, unfortunately, it looks like I have some kind of Caddyshack rodent war brewing here, with fancy fruit-Rats with impeccable mango fruit taste...

I'm sure it's not the easiest Sugar Cane to peel. But, it's so beautiful that it's probably worth having, IMO; now I'm also looking for it.

Here's a rare one I'm looking for. It's a Hawaiian heirloom Hilo sugarcane



Anywhere I look, it's either out of stock or going for a lot on eBay.

I found a guy that has it in the Palmtalk forum, but he never responded back to my message

So what I have is supposedly 'Ilian'/'Ilao;' good to know; thanx.

I had never heard of the E Wai Longan. It sounds interesetingly good.

BTW, when I'm eating Longans or Lychee, I take it as a given that because of all the juice splattering, that it's gonna be a somewhat of a bit messy and sticky finger situation.

I think they're two different longans. The one you're referring to is ilian/ilao.

Thank you Mark, I'm now somewhat relieved after you've validated some of my avocado fruit tree variety choices - sighing with relief, thanks again.

P.S. I'll be looking into the varieties that have done well for you - Frankencado, Holiday, Sir-Prize, Pinkerton and Ardith, - to determine how well they do, and what their season is, in Florida.
 

Quote from: LEOOEL on May 23, 2017, 10:51:57 PM

(*): I'm considering the 'Brogdon' avocado for my Miami-Dade area location. P.I.N. says that from Orlando, FL to New Orleans, LA, they produce ripe fruit from August to October. I would love to know what's its ripe fruit production period in Miami-Dade.

I hated the Brogdon, but I'm picky when it comes to not only taste but characteristics of the tree and fruit.  Skin is super thin making it a big mess to peel (you can't spoon it out), big seed, fair tasting fruit, small fruit and the seed paper sticks to the seed cavity meat.  Cut it back to its Waldin rootstock and now have a beautiful Frankencado holding fruit from last year's grafting - Holiday, Sir Prize, Pinkerton and Ardith.

Same with the "Tex-Mex" varieties like Fantastic, Wilma/Brazos Belle, Joey.   Use them as rootstock.  They suck.

Didn't like Oro Negro for 3 years post planting but it's really hitting its stride now with nice creamy fruit.  (Can't compete with my Reed which is over the top).  Never is ready for me until late winter.  Here's a few in March.  Tree is loaded after a heavy blossom set this March.



Day's not bad and a good choice for those in cold areas of Florida.  Likes the heat, does well in the steamy Rio Grande Valley area.

Good luck!

Thanks for the Just One Bite II suggestion, that may come in really handy.

I used to go out in the yard and eat the Mulberry fruit right off the tree, but not ever since seen the rats; birds I can handle and appreciate, but rats are just nasty! Now, I pick the Mulberry fruit and give it a water & vinegar bath for a few minutes, before eating fruit.

It can be really tedious to take measures to protect oneself from microscopic organisms. This is why I for one wish the AI Robots would finally get here and assist us with the tedious but very important shores; 60%-90% of our cells are alien bacterial cells! There are more alien bacterial cells in & on our bodies than our own cells!

Here in FL, I think the only effective way to defend yourself against rats is with permanent bait stations. Just One Bite II seems to be a favorite for the rats here.

Quote from: LEOOEL on May 28, 2017, 11:13:04 PM

Lately I've seen rats in my 'Tiger-Tail' Mulberry tree. I think I have to find a way to increase the number of cats that I own, and have them hunt more. It's been several years since they've left the severed head of a rat outside the residences's door, I really miss that.

My cats now or more: oh, I love you, you love me - kinda cats. By necessity, I find myself gearing up to train them to hunt rats again. And, if they want my love, they have to bring me some rat heads first - LOL.

I have it all planned out: (1) Teach them to kill rats, (2) Determine which one is best genetically predisposed to kill rats, and finally, (3) Propagate those cats. Then, I suppose I could say that I have a superior race of genetically engineered, professional rat killing cats.

(Perhaps I'm having a 'Caddyshack' movie deja-vu)

I got them at my local BJ's Store, so far I'm quite pleased with it, but now I'm keeping an eye out for one that protects the back area of neck against UV Light and bugs.

Quote from: LEOOEL on May 28, 2017, 09:57:02 PM

I really have no idea on the answers to your questions, except that they are also really important to me too.

I recently got myself and kin some UV-Protection hats and they are great. I get kind'a a cooling effect from them whether it's sunshine or rain. I really love it much more than the straw hat I was using.

Could you tell more about the hats you found? Style? Where you got them? I'm looking for something to wear for an upcoming vacation.

Update on the 'Spineless-Peach-Palm' sucker that I have growing in a pot:

The main, bigger sucker has dried up and died. Incredibly, it came with its own much smaller sucker, which is doing just fine so far. I've moved it to a location with more shade.

I hope it survives so that I don't have to go through the process of obtaining another sucker from the donating/mother Peach-Palm tree of an acquaintance of mine. It can be somewhat heart wrenching to see what these young pups go through.

Update on the taste of the 'Peach-Palm:' I've never tasted the fruit, but from what I've been able to gather, it is very nutritious, but it does not have a sweet taste.

I recall two ways that the fruit can be eaten after it's boiled for about 5 hours: (1) By itself with some honey, and (2) in a soup recipe.