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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oranges And Its Sugar Content
« on: May 15, 2019, 03:39:59 PM »
Whether justified or not, it seems like medical professionals & nutritionists have started a war on fruit. Several years back, I started to add a glass of OJ to breakfast every morning.  My doc at the time decided I was pre-diabetic & ordered me cut out OJ altogether.  She then went further & told me to cut out fruit as snacks, only to have fruit as part of meals.  My wife has mentioned that some dietary charts now have completely omitted fruit from the diagrams (now just "vegetables" as opposed to "fruits & vegetables" as it used to be).

Ages ago when in college, I had a prof who used to enjoy surfing in a wetsuit in the icy waters of northern New England for at least 3 of the 4 seasons.  He swore by bringing a bag of oranges with him & having one periodically to be able to keep going.  He claimed the sugar & electrolytes made a huge difference in his endurance.

John

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Budd blood orange
« on: May 13, 2019, 12:18:42 PM »
It would be great if you could post a review and some pics when it bears. 

Thanks!
John

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Thanks for posting, Har & thanks for reposting that earlier thread.  I second Seanny's idea, it would be great if someone could video it & upload to Youtube for those of us who can't be there.

John

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I got my nice fresh seeds today, nicely packed, and Josh was generous with extra seeds. 

Thanks!
John

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I made a purchase a while back on ebay from a "beautyladyinfo".  I received foil packs of seeds that looked like those that Domnik got.  I am not absolutely certain that the company name on the packs was the same but I think so.  I got Baccaurea kunstleri and Melodorum fruticosum seeds that have not germinated yet & I have little hope for.  However, I also got some Kadsura sp. seeds where I have had 11 out of 15 germinate and I suspect that more may still germinate.  If I recall correctly, all seeds seemed somewhat dry when I got them but I soaked them in water until most of them sunk.  I can't say I am pleased with the results but the cost of the seeds was low so I am "ok" with this particular experience.  Probably best to steer clear of these sellers as Domnik suggests.  However cheap seeds is not a guarantee of bad seeds or a bad seller any more than expensive seeds guarantees a good experience.  At least you don't feel as bad getting crap seeds that are cheap as opposed to getting gouged on seeds that are still crap.

Since it seems like no one has reported getting their orders from this TSFO guy, it is probably now reasonable to assume that he was just a crook.

John

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The suggestion to leave them in the husk to delay germination is probably best.  If you are bringing these in under a small lots of seed permit, most inspectors will destroy any seed that is sprouting (sprouted seeds are "plants", not seeds, require Phyto docs, & cannot come in under that permit).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what's nut tree
« on: April 18, 2019, 10:54:41 PM »
I don't think Macs are cauliflorous, and I don't believe they would do well in the humidity of Thailand.

But I am curious as to the nut identity, so here's a bump.
Macs do ok with humidity and rain, there are tons of them growing on Hawaii, including right in the Hilo area.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kadsura fruits
« on: April 16, 2019, 11:29:14 PM »


Which guy sold you bad seeds?

The seeds I had trouble with were Baccaurea and Melodorum seeds but the Kadsura seeds seem fine.  I bought them on ebay (I know that is asking for trouble but they were cheap & looked like what they claimed to be -- I don't mind as much getting bad seeds if they are cheap, I have spent a lot on seeds from some vendors on this group that were also junk).  The vendor was "beautyladyinfo".   

I looked at the seeds again today.  I misspoke, 2/3 of them have now germinated & were planted in pots.  I noticed the first sprout coming above ground today so it evidently takes about 1 1/2 months after germination for the sprout to appear above ground.  I don't recall how long I soaked the seeds initially but it was longer than the overnight soaks I often do.  It may have been 2-3 days.  They then went into damp (not wet) sphagnum in a warm area.

So, does this research group sell seeds?  I may have to check them out.  The poster looks interesting.  Any chance you could translate the captions for us?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kadsura fruits
« on: April 16, 2019, 03:01:32 PM »
I got seeds of a "Kadsura sp" from Thailand.  I was a little apprehensive since the seeds were in pretty foil packs with pictures on them, like they were being sold in stores.  I soaked the kadsuras in water until they sank (don't recall how long that took) and put them in a baggy with damp sphagnum.  The first of the seeds starting germinating within a couple of weeks.  They have been sporadically sprouting now for about 2 months, with almost all germinated now.  So, unless it is a temperate species in question, I don't think a chill is required.  It is interesting to note that I have not seen any above ground growth of those seeds I have planted.  Hopefully, they are growing roots first & have not just decided to die once they were put in soil.

By the way, I got zero germination (seeds rotting) on the other, recalcitrant seeds I got from this guy.

John

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If it was a jelly-like seed, it was probably not katemfe unless it was not properly cleaned off and the jelly-like substance was remainder of fruit.  My recollection is that the seeds are quite large for a ginger type plant -- about the size of a navy bean -- and have a hard coat on them.

As far as keeping seeds for 2 years, they don't take up much space.  If they do not mold over or rot, I often just leave them to see if they will eventually sprout.  Sometimes they do.  If you have the book on fruits from the Congo by Roy Danforth & Paul Noren, they talked about one fruit that they were unable to germinate.  I have learned from Paul that they were wrong, it just took 8 years to germinate.



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At this point, I don't recall what katemfe looks like when it sprouts, that might be it.  Be aware that these can take a VERY long time to germinate.  See thread:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=18001.0;nowap

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Wholly cow, this list is a gold mine of mango cultivar descriptions: https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/mangos
Thanks for posting this Jeff, I had missed it on the site.  If I had seen this prior to placing my scion order, I might have ordered slightly differently.  Oh well, there's always next year ...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Star Apple Taste Any Good?
« on: April 09, 2019, 09:51:30 PM »

There are many species of chrysophyllum, and i believe they are all edible. The pink is the same as the Chrysophyllum argenteum var. auratum. The pink starapple tree made a lot of fruits this year, over 200. They are sweeter than regular starapple, have longer season, only one seed per fruit, but fruit is a bit smaller than regular starapple.
I mailed seeds to many people, including forum members, a couple weeks ago. Sorry but no more seeds for a couple of months. There is a new crop already on the tree, but fruits are still small.


Oscar,
How big do the auratums need to get to start to bear?

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I don't know if it is just me but the link for your price list (at the top of this thread) just brings me back to a TFF menu page.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Star Apple Taste Any Good?
« on: April 08, 2019, 01:50:04 PM »
I recall Mike T from Aus posting about other color forms (gold, pink, pearl) that they have there that are supposed to be superior to the purples & green.  He & Oscar also talked about a cousin, C. argentium var. auratum, that is supposed to also be a cut above the common caimito.  I haven't tried the auratums yet but have trees in the ground from Oscar & Mike (still a few years to go).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Small lot seed permit protocol
« on: April 07, 2019, 02:15:05 PM »
Not trying to show you a lack of aloha here, but if you do a search in the above search box, enter "small lots seed" and search with google, you should find a ton of hits.  This topic has seen a LOT of previous discussion.

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Star Apple Taste Any Good?
« on: April 06, 2019, 07:46:00 PM »
I have to agree with Oscar that this is a top tier fruit.  Before I came to Hawaii, I read descriptions of the fruit & it was not on my radar at all to grow.  Once I tried it, I became a big fan.  Flavor is a bit subtle but I am very fond of it.  If you prepare as Oscar describes, the latex is not bad, however if you are scraping to get every last morsel you'll pick up more latex from the skin.  The biggest criticism I have is not of the fruit but of the sellers at market.  At lot of them exercise no care in the handling of their produce and beat the crap out of these.  So it is not uncommon to have a fruit that is getting over-ripe quickly in spots where it has been bruised.

John

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Luna nut
« on: April 04, 2019, 08:35:39 PM »
I sent you a PM about adding some seeds to my existing order but I haven't heard back from you.  Is this species dioecious or monoecious?  What I can find online about it seems inconclusive.

John

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Luna nut
« on: April 02, 2019, 03:51:53 PM »
So this Lepisanthes is white at maturity?  What is the fruit flavor like -- sweet, sour, astringent?  Does this one tend to a tree or more shrub-like?

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Do you have any idea of what species "beach cherry" is?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID this Garcinia.
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:17:46 PM »
That's a beautiful tree with the red on the new new growth.  You'll have to keep us posted when it finally flowers.   Is this one also dioecious?  (do you have more than one?)

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sil-Matrix on Mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »
Thanks, Har, I'll have to give it a try.

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sil-Matrix on Mango?
« on: March 15, 2019, 05:36:26 PM »
I was just wondering if anyone has tried Sil-Matrix on mango for fungus control.  I saw some on sale (or clearance?) at my local co-op & saw it was listed as a fungicide, miticide, & insecticide.  I didn't have time to look it over too well as I saw it at the check out but I picked it up anyway (2 1/2 gal for $25 sounded like a deal).  I have had time to now check it more & see it is a soluble silica and it is primarily effective against powdery mildew. I was hoping it might also have some activity against anthracnose but that is not claimed on the label.

Has anyone tried this product on mango?  If so, verdict on effectiveness?

Thanks,
John

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I received an order the other day.  All the seeds were extremely well packed and well documented with labeling.  All arrived in good condition and many were starting to germinate.  He even threw in a few extra seeds.  This was possibly the best shipment I have ever received, considering the condition of seeds, care in packing, and good documentation.

John

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good rootstock for Abiu ?.
« on: March 13, 2019, 12:51:01 AM »
If I were looking for another rootstock, I would be inclined to try Pouteria torta -- however, it is probably more uncommon than abiu so probably not a great candidate for most people.  The fruit seems more similar to abiu than most of the common Pouterias so I am guessing it may be a closer relative.

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