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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Citrus reticulata 'Jiouyuezao'
« on: December 13, 2018, 03:42:33 PM »
Thank you for all of your information Radoslav, I greatly appreciate it.
 

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Thank you very much for the screenshot, since I tried to open it with another browser, but it doesn`t work. Thanks for mentioning this page of the paper. I thought that every older loquat would do fine in zone 7, especially if it is crossed with another hardier species. (Maybe they do, if they have a very hardy crossing partner). But in case you want to breed a Eriobotrya, that is as hardy as possible, you should also choose a Loquat cultivar, which is as hardy as possible.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seedless guava
« on: December 06, 2018, 09:33:49 AM »
Papaya Tree Nursery is selling indonesian seedless guava, but unfortunately they’re in El Oro Way, Granada Hills (Southern California). http://www.papayatreenursery.com/newSite/fullPlantList.html
http://papayatreenursery.com/
I would ask them if they could send you a plant.
I also found another site (http://www.vendio.com/stores/Polynesian_Produce_Stand/item/yard-garden-outdoor-living-oth/-indonesian-seedless-guava-rar/lid=45762848) from Hawaii, wich sends to the US.

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / tropical.theferns
« on: December 05, 2018, 06:39:39 AM »
http://tropical.theferns.info/ is a really good site about useful tropical plants (plants with edible, medicinal, or other uses).
It currently contains 11829 species. You can search for a plant by using its botanical or common name.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria fruit ID
« on: December 04, 2018, 08:20:22 AM »
I would say your guess is right, to me it also looks like Canistel (Pouteria campechiana). There is no other fruit I could think of that looks like that. Canistel fruits can be found in very different shapes.













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Yes it seems like the individual plant at Kew is not at all hardy. But in the paper they mention:„Seeds were gathered by him at Phulchoke, to the south-southeast of Kathmandu on the road from Lalitpur, due east of Godawari.” (Which, I think is hardiness zone 8 or 9).
What I think is really strange is that it just can tolerate temperatures down to 7 °C (44,6 °F). That would be even to frost tender for zone 10. (The warmest hardiness zone in Nepal).
But how I wrote earlier, the species is distributed in different hardiness zones, even in hardiness zone 6. http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=10149
If you take seeds from a individual in the north (hardiness zone 6), the plant should grow well in zone 7.
Thank you very much for the flowering and fruiting information for E.fragrans and petiolata, but unfortunately I cant open the first link.(That one: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200010832)

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Wanted: Citrus reticulata 'Jiouyuezao'
« on: November 29, 2018, 10:04:44 AM »
Very Interesting, from what I found online Tuanianiju, Bendizao and Xingjin should be hardy until -12 °C (10,4° F).
How hardy is Zaojin?
I can not find any Citrus reticulata varieties on this chinese site. How did you write them? In chinese? Or do they understand english?

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Nice to hear about the Eriobotrya japonica trees doing well in zone 7(a). Some resources say that they are just hardy until zone 8(a), but I think older plants will be hardy until Zone 7.
The hybrid called Eriobotrya 'Coppertone' is a hybrid between Eriobotrya deflexa and the Indian hawthorn (Rhaphiolepis indica), so not a true Eriobotrya. Coppertone is said to be cold hardy until Zone 8a, but the advantage is that the bloom is in spring. The fruits are also edible. E.deflexa is a really bad crossing partner if you want a cold hardy hybrid, because it is distributed in warm zones like 9, 10 and 11. https://books.google.at/books?id=rXTGyOlDjdoC&pg=PA515&fbclid=IwAR2gcYSS6BvPlgO1ytIFTjMpiw5bpHaxV-DJD_yWYoyHLE0rgRwb_1eYQlU#v=onepage&q&f=true
Some also say that Coppertone is a hybrid between E.japonica and Rhaphiolepsis indica. (What would be a bit better, because E.japonica is hardier).
Rhaphiolepsis indica itself is hardy until zone 7(a) or 8(a) (statements vary).
All a bit cold hardy, but nothing really hardy. A Coppertone hybrid (with E.japonica in it) could be worth a try. But if we could get our hands on species like Eriobotrya fragrans, elliptica or hookeriana, that would be a real game changer.


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I have overlooked the flowering and fruiting time, sorry.
E.hookeriana flowers october-november and fruits march-june. Whereas E.elliptica flowers in april and fruits in june.
So E.elliptica would be the better option. Or is hookeriana better? I think it depends on how frost hardy the flowers are and if the frost risk in your area is higher from october to november or in april.
With regard to E.fragrans, I don`t know anything about flowering or fruiting time.

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Some information about Eriobotrya elliptica and hookeriana in (Nepal):
http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=10149
http://www.floraofnepal.org/onlineflora?wildcard=12672

And in comparison the hardiness zones of Nepal. https://davisla.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/india-pakistan-bangladesh-nepal-plant-hardiness-zone-map.jpg
Both of them can also be found in the north of the country, where the hardiness zone is 6.
So Eriobotrya elliptica, fragrans and hookeriana should be a good choice. But I have no idea when they flower and fruit.
The other problem is, where do we get those species? The area where E.fragrans occurs in zone 5 (China) is not that populated.
For the species of nepal, I wrote to a nursery in Patlekhet, Nepal, but until now they have not responded.

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Temperate Fruit & Orchard Online Library / temperate.theferns
« on: November 19, 2018, 04:36:01 PM »
http://temperate.theferns.info/ contains a huge database of useful temperate plants. The website currently contains 8152 species. Plants can be searched by using botanical or common names. A really great site with a lot of information.

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Great pictures! Thanks for sharing

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Wanted: Citrus reticulata 'Jiouyuezao'
« on: November 17, 2018, 03:05:55 PM »
Hi, I would love to buy seeds or plants of the Citrus reticulata variety named Jiouyuezao.
The internet says it is long cultivated in China and hardy to about –13 °C (8,6 °F).
Thanks in advance

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