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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Chaya seed
« on: September 15, 2019, 02:02:37 AM »
Of the 4 types I am growing ATM, one is a cutting of Dr. David Fairchild's chaya that he grew at The Kampong in Miami's Coconut Grove. The other notable one is from Larry Schokman, I am unaware of where this one came from. The Dr. Fairchild specimen came from Cuba according to my research. It came via the Guthrie family members of The Rare Fruit Council Int'l. (RFCI), Maimi. The 3rd was given to me by a friend in the (SFPS), and the 4th came from our yard. 2 of the 4 have stinging nettles.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Chaya seed
« on: August 18, 2019, 02:25:53 AM »
have 4-5 types right now.

Cnidoscolus aconitifolius cuttings are excellent.

One type is the one Dr. David Fairchild had at The Kampong, saved by fellow RFCI Miami members. Another from Larry Schokman, two more from around town, which both appear to have no stinging nettles.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mystery cherimoya
« on: August 18, 2019, 01:20:13 AM »
Exotica grows what they call Annona cherimola 'La Conchita'

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: August 03, 2019, 01:42:12 AM »
I purchased two Angie from Alex this season that were outstanding. Picked and ripened properly, on the firm side of ripe and made it to the top tier for me. Top tier but not top 10.

Dr. Campbell at Mango Men Homestead also had some outstanding 'Angie' this season as well. Too many people jump to quick conclusions about flavor. Trees may vary right, grower, location, culture etc.? Go Angie!, which was named after Angela Whitman, William “Bill” Whitman’s widow, first President of The Rare Fruit Council intl. in Miami, and one of its founders! It's a good mango...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mangos Are Left (Florida)?
« on: July 31, 2019, 01:02:24 AM »
'Edward' at an abandoned house still loaded. Picked 30+

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop juice at Costco
« on: July 24, 2019, 11:40:13 AM »
I haven't bought this one and the label isn't clear if there is added sugar just says pulp. I tried looking up the FDA rules on labeling pulp but they seem to only concentrate on beverages.

The label shows cane sugar as the 3rd ingredient. The first ingredient is filtered water and it’s only 20% juice. Pulp is not doctored so there shouldn’t be a labeling issue. Nectar is where things get fuzzy, PURE juice is not to be confused with this product which is made with only 20% of real juice, water and other ingredients.

Retail juice can be watered down, generally more than nectar which is also sugar laden. I don’t see fructose here, that’s more prevelant in sodas and other tropical fruit drinks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop juice at Costco
« on: July 22, 2019, 01:32:26 PM »
I’m sure is tastes great.

20% juice / 30 grams of sugar per 8 oz serving.

Ingredients listby quantity

Water, soursop purée, cane sugar, natural flavoring

Let’s not encourage poaching in natural areas. Well said and some alternate options are offered.

You might have better luck trying to contact forum members in Florida to locate the Annona glabra variety "North", which is less likely to have compatibility issues than seedlings removed from the wild


While I appreciate the quest, feel like we shouldn’t be advocating digging up plants from public lands nor private properties without permission...

Grabbing the fruits for seeds seems more reasonable, though I’m sure there are laws discouraging that as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop juice at Costco
« on: July 22, 2019, 02:00:11 AM »
Nectar by FDA standards can be doctored with additives and sugar. Fruit juice is generally the finest product aside from pulp that is available.

Looking to trade some of these Annona montana seeds. Mountain soursop

Prefer Florida traders, but let me know otherwise & we can work it out.

Limited QTY. Under 50 available, mostly interested in "Rare Fruits", please send me a Direct Message rather than posting here.

FLORIDA preferred. No international for now, sorry.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava ID
« on: July 21, 2019, 06:47:49 PM »
Looks very interesting, we are in the same city. We would like to take a closer look and help you identify this guava.

For future reference, please use the main section of the forum. TROPICAL FRUIT DISCUSSION for fruit related questions and posts. Some friendly advice

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava ID help
« on: July 21, 2019, 06:24:36 PM »
Ah, Guavas...

This doesn’t look like ‘Homestead’ (Ruby x Supreme)

Guava is among the toughest fruit to identify the cultivar of. The best situation is asking the source where they propagated it from. It may be from seed or vegetative propagation. The seed pattern can help identify the fruit as well. Taste test and acid / ascorbic acid levels would be more definite. I will review a few photos and see if any strike me as similar.

The true cultivar name of this varietal is ‘Homestead’, which is a hand polinated cross by George Ruehle of ‘Ruby’ x ‘Supreme’. Ruehle was a scientist at TREC Tropical Research Center in Homestead’s Redland, and also served as President of the Rate Fruit Council International, based in Miami, among being on the organization’s founders in 1955.

What was the custard apple cv. that Bill Whitman grew at his home? It's listed as a 'Tikal' grafted on Annona scleroderma in his book.

Do you know how to graft? If so, I think I may have a source for budwood for at least one of the two varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Angie a Top-Tier Mango?
« on: June 29, 2019, 01:44:41 AM »
‘Angie’ was named after Angela Whitman, William “Bill” Whitman’s widow! Now show some respect for her & Bill everyone. =P

Sounds serious

It is an honor to invite you all to this event being put together by The Rare Fruit Council Int'l., (RFCI), Miami. Mr. Whitman was one of the founders of this organization in 1955, & was its first President. We will be convening at The Fruit & Spice park this SAT - June 8th from 2PM-5PM for a Fruit Club Meetup.

William “Bill” Whitman Day & Longan Celebration - Florida Fruit Club Meetup #BillWhitmanDay

JUNE 8th, SAT (2-5PM) at THE PRESTON B. BIRD & MARY HEINLEIN FRUIT & SPICE PARK, in Homestead’s bucolic Redland Agricultural Area.

Hosted by The Rare Fruit Council International, RFCI Miami in cooperation with the Fruit & Spice Park & the Tropical Fruit & Vegetable Society of Redland

Members of RFCI Chapters & Florida fruit clubs are welcome to celebrate Bill Whitman’s legacy, and what he contributed to the advancement of pomology through the ‘Kohala’ longan and many other plants. Whitman is one of the founders of The Rare Fruit Council International, Inc. (RFCI) Miami, which was founded on March 11, 1955 as the Rare Fruit Council.

Admission to the F&S park is to be paid at gate, more info at their website.

Perhaps you’ll bring something to share with fellow fruit enthusiasts … fruits, seeds, scions?

The RFCI looks forward to welcoming you to Homestead’s Redland.

RSVP IS Encouraged by emailing the RFCI via their website.

Email Reference: Bill Whitman Day / Redland Fruit Club Meetup

Want a reminder? Sign up for the RFCI list

Want to join the RFCI - Sign up here or bring your form to the event. -

Direct event link:

Miami News - 1959

I will try to help you out by sharing a few spots, contact me... & I can help. I'm in Redland (Homestead) / Miami area.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross sapote grown from seed
« on: April 26, 2019, 01:54:45 AM »
See thread...

Pouteria sp. fruits in clusters.

All info is here... Saves typing, not a secretary today.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross sapote grown from seed
« on: April 26, 2019, 01:44:30 AM »
Can toss Sapote be grafted onto canistel rootstock???

They are in the same genus so you are good. Pouteria.

I have two Ross sapote seedlings and have failed at grafting them.  I am considering just planting and hope I get something good.  What do you think?  Has anyone done this? 

Not sure how reliable a ‘Ross’ seedling is, grafting may be best.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits found in Tropical Wetlands
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:05:06 AM »
Living so close to a swamp that occupies most of south Florida I was wondering what tropical fruits either (1) currently grow there or (2) could grow there? There are islands out there that could flood and gators and snakes to contend with. Not really sure which tropical fruits are out there or could be?

That swamp... is called The Everglades. Marjory Stoneman Douglas named it "The River of Grass"... Let's thank her for that right now and again tomorrow.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: April 04, 2019, 10:24:57 AM »
Available free online

Manual of tropical and subtropical fruits, excluding the banana, coconut, pineapple, citrus fruits, olive, and fig by Popenoe, Wilson -

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are top tropicals reliable
« on: April 04, 2019, 03:17:56 AM »
I have not ordered from them, but can attest to their professionalism when we’ve emailed. They are also studied individuals.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Alphonso mango x 1
« on: April 03, 2019, 06:58:10 AM »
Plant will be sold at the upcoming RFCI plant sale. No longer for trade.

Spring Garden Festival and 40th Annual Spring Plant Sale at Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden.

Do them all, instead of either or! Also, consider that it's a blessing being able to move them indoors if  needed. The articles I sent focus on South Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who know this Inga Edulis
« on: April 02, 2019, 02:24:46 AM »
I can ask the person that took the photo. This was taken by one of the Rare Fruit Council Intl. (RFCI) Miami members. Photo was lifted off one of our website pages.  8) I am very interested in this plant as well.

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