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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Loquat scions for sale
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:16:58 PM »
I got mine very quickly too.  Thanks.

Is that a super low dose?
I came across some info that suggested a broad range from 9.64 to 2.72 oz per gallon. 0.5 to 2 percent by weight.

It was an article on

There is also information that suggests time of year, spring vs Fall matters with lower concentrations recommended for spring with the reason being to avoid damage to young tender leaves.
Guihong Bi and Carolyn Scagel , Nursery Management and Production, March 2017

Interesting case here.

If you (7_Heads) are from Hawaii, the "Australian farm" may have purchased this variety from you many years ago and tagged your plant the Orange Variety from Hawaii or simply Hawaiian Orange.
Trian may very well be sharing information as he/she knows it from the seller.

I assume (since from your previous posts you are okay with people reusing pictures) that your concern is Trian not properly naming that variety as Orange Dwarf, is this the case? 

My theory of how the name may have come around is of course hinged on you selling out of Hawaii. Do you?

My kid did a science fair experiment on impact of N, P and/or K on growth in a hydroponic system.
His experiment is done and I have a few pounds of Urea and triple super phosphate left.
I dont mix fertilizers, I leave that to Har and other pros.
I do want to know how to get the most benefit from these.
I plant mangos, lychees, citrus, guava, jack fruit, garcinia, avocado, loquat, peppers, annonas, bananas and others.
I saw a post that recommends Urea in low doses as a foliar spray or drench.  Is this a good use of what I have left?  Which plants benefit from extra Nitrogen which want no part of it?

Any suggestions are welcome.

Tsk tsk, have none of you heard about the TARDIS?
Its bigger inside than it looks outside :)

Sorry, couldn't help it, tribute to all Dr Who fans out there..

Recent development on my dead cado trees.

The tree that died later was in an easily accessible spot in my yard and I made a fire around it, burned the stump hopefully getting rid of whatever may have bored into the deadwood.  There is a black patch with a tiny stub left on the spot to mark where my Oro negro once stood.

The plant that died earlier I believe was a Monroe and I had thought was lost to storm damage.  I had removed most of the branches but had not gotten around to chopping down the tree.  A couple of days ago I had the opportunity to take the chain saw to it and lo and behold, two little water shoots are growing from low on the tree above the graft.  It looks like the tree did not fully die back.  I had started two seedlings that are ready to be planted int he ground and had intended to prepare that location to receive one of the replacement trees.

My thoughts now is to wait on planting the seedling in the ground and give the Lazarus tree a chance.  I will cut off the deadwood above the new growth and see if more water shoots form on which I can graft my favorite cados.

Just sharing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: interesting mango grafting method
« on: March 08, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »
I think the key difference is that the root is grafted on to a plant that is not relying on it for everything.  It has time to grown and establish before the new plant is taken off the parent.
In your case if you cull the roots of the sedling, the plant had too few leaves to support it and may fail.
Just a thought.

The two in my case were carrie and keith.
Last year was a monster year on the Carie.  Unless I get another flush which I doubt this year will be slim.
May be a good year to prune and shape the tree.

Anyone getting poor fruit set?

I had two trees that flowered relatively earlier than the others and just about al the panicles have dried up, very little fruit set.

I am a little inland and most mornings the dew is so much it is like I had hosed down the flowers.
I sprayed to try to prevent powdery mildew and while I seem to have avoided that I still did not get good fruit set (despite bees and flies buzzing everywhere).

Fortunately, the trees that flowered a little later seem to be setting some fruit.  Not sure if this will be a good mango year for me just yet.

Question:  Other than copper and sulfur, what do you spray to help your mangos hold on to some fruit. 

On a pleasant note, lychee and citrus are blossoming, won't be a lost season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango graft blooming!
« on: February 28, 2019, 01:51:53 PM »
Didn't know this.  I have some young grafts on small plants which are flowering and will have the fruits pinched off.
I also have some grafts on mature topworked trees.  I will likely keep some of these in light of this information.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: 2019 anona scions sale
« on: February 20, 2019, 06:54:54 PM »
I am sure JF will respond but based on my experience, 2 of each minimum of 10 means you can have up to 5 different varieties if you are getting the minimum (2 scions each of 5 different varieties is 10).

I have serious mango envy :)

Nice collection.
I do have one question, I believe your collection is a door yard collection and not a commercial venture, why do you have more than 10 of any one variety? .. and are some of these multiple varieties on the same tree?

By the way, I saw the lychee and cado, just happen to be a mango person.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sale: 2019 anona scions sale
« on: February 16, 2019, 03:15:24 PM »
... it begins ...

Going through your posts it looks like you are in jupiter farms. I grew up there. I know how the water table can fluctuate dramatically between dry and wet season. Were these trees planted where the majority of the roots may have been sitting in water from the water table being close to the surface? I'm thinking some type of root rot may have killed them.
Yes I am.

That is likely with one of the trees.  We had some significant flooding, water level stayed high for a couple of days and the roots could have been compromised.  It didn't help that the tree had been knocked down and propped back up just shortly before.

The second tree had seen wetter conditions, it was not particularly wet when it started declining.  The tree was planted on fill which settled a little in the life of the tree.  I am still not sure but if I replace the tree with another cadoin the same location I intend to make a mound and elevate the plant.

I clicked on the link, and it said:
Video unavailable
This video has been removed by the user

That's too bad I was looking forward to seeing it.
I was looking forward to seeing it too,
I can see why the OP would take it down, no need for the hassle.

While the trees were declining, I looked very carefully and did not see any holes, borers, or powder.
When I cut one of the two down to a stump, I did not see any unusual discoloration, other than what I expected to see with a tree drying out.
A couple of months after the tree was dead and cut back to a stump (a little over a meter high), I saw some very fine white dust no the stem close to the base.  I still did not see any borers of holes (I didn't take a magnifying glass to it)

This past week, I cut the stump as low as I could and burnt the rest in preparation to reuse the spot.

I really don't think it is Laurel Wilt but in the event it was I want to take the best course of action to minimize risk to whatever I plant on the spot.

I hope Carlos sees this post and responds.  Interestingly, the tree in question was a Lula that I cut back and topworked to Oro Negro on Carlos's recommendation and with budwood I got from him.  It was loaded with fruits for the first time when it started to die back.  I was looking forward to getting and trying the fruit last year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best course of action - replacing dead Avocado
« on: February 09, 2019, 01:46:43 PM »
I lost two avocado trees last years.  The first I thought was storm damage, the second was a mystery.
Assuming the worst, death by Laurel Wilt, what do I need to do if I still want to grow avocado in my yard?

I did some research online that suggests that I can remove and replant to avocado.  Has anyone done this and is this a viable option?

My preference will be to use the same site for avocado and I have some grafted plants in a pot ready to be put in the ground.  I intend to head dirt on the spot to make a raised mound about a foot higher than grade and about 4 to 6 feet across to plan the new tree and I intend to place mulch 3 to 6 inches on the raised mound.  Does this do me any good?

The alternative is that I plant something else at this location, atemoya or soursop, find a new location for my cado.  The other sites I have will require a bigger mound but has never been planted to avocado.

Will appreciate any suggestions or personal experience coming back after laurel wilt.

PS.  I don't think it is laurel wilt but I want to make sure in case it is I give my new cado the best shot.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for J-queen durian scion
« on: February 03, 2019, 04:28:43 PM »
He may just want to know what the hoopla is about.  If someone is willing to price it at $1000, perhaps it is worth tasting with a little patience without shelling out beaucoup bucks.

I have fallen victim of label falling off and uncertainty as to what a grafted variety was.  Now I don't just rely on labelling, I have video and maps of my trees with location of each graft.  Those are for recent graft and they help.  The older unknown grafts will just have to wait until they fruit for me know which is which.

So as Simon Says (pun intended), careful if you are selling sions don't graft too many on one tree, or have multiple layers of redundancy on your labelling.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My puggged kent mango tree
« on: January 26, 2019, 11:58:53 AM »
Shinzo, how is your tree today?
Share a picture if you have a chance.

Mine is just beginning to flower.  A few at this time but I expect more to follow.

... and yes, I love the taste and so do several people I share with. 
Taste is completely subjective though, there are those who don't like the Choc Anon.

I wouldn't do that with growth that hasn't hardened and turned green, and don't do it with my mangos unless it is part of a planned tipping regime.

There are many posts on pruning and tipping mango on the forum do a search for "tipping"

Here are a few - happy reading :)

There are also many good videos on youtube.  Here are two popularly shared links.  They represent 2 slightly different schools of thoughts.  Has to do with inducing growth at the internode or just below.  I split the difference.  My first cut is just above the node allowing many shoots from which I pick 3 to keep.  Subsequent cuts are below the node and fewer new shoots form at the location of leafs just below the cut.  Usually 2 or 3.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Low Temperatures
« on: January 21, 2019, 08:32:04 AM »
40 to 41 right now (8:25 am) and the sun has been up for a little while so I am sure it is warmed from the lows overnight.

I measures on two pieces of banana stems that I had cut down a couple of days ago and the temperature just below the surface was 37.
My best guess is that (37 degrees or a tad bellow) was likely the coldest we got in my part of western jupiter.

The projections was for 39 here and a little lower in Loxahatchee and Indian Town.  Would like to see how low they got.

How many did you add to your cart?
Try 1 or 2, it should work. 
If you have several, I don't know the threshold, it wouldn't.

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