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It is good to see you Oscar, I hope you, your family and everyone in the island is safe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamarind in CA?
« on: May 13, 2018, 11:08:43 AM »
Tamarind is almost in every farm around here. Just be careful they have a very invasive root system.


Has anyone tried to grow Artocarpus camansi aka breadnut in S. Florida ?.

I remember Peter (the guy from Costa Rica) once said that he uses Artocarpus camansi as a rootstock for Marang and since Artocarpus camansi is very closely related to breadfruit, it might do better in limestone soil.

Welcome to TFF

Your seedling could be Annona purpurea aka Soncoya.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Diego garden photos
« on: May 09, 2018, 02:35:10 PM »
Great garden.

I'm sure your family is proud of you. Keep up the great work.

BTW, have you tried to grow something unusual, something more tropical ?.

Here is mine

Mine is doing good, kept it under a shade cloth for about 2 years to protect it from the summer heat. I removed the shade about one month ago, hopefully i will see better growth.

Unfortunately I only have one seedling in ground.

Hereís the photo of one of my four guaya trees. Itís almost 2m. Note the new foliage comes out orange/pink.
I have eaten the fruit in central Veracruz state and though similar to mamoncillo it is superior, sweeter. Peter

i will post a picture of Raul's Mamoncillo, tomorrow. My tree is about 1.2 or 1.4m.

Congratulation Chandramohan.

I hope you enjoy the fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Pulasan Season Just Started
« on: May 04, 2018, 04:06:59 PM »
I have seen Durian cempedak , jackfruit, mango, matoa, etc, all coming from Malaysia but never seen Pulasan at my local Asian supermarket. Hopefully, I'm going to see them very soon.  8)

Thanks for sharing

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: heat woes
« on: June 21, 2017, 06:01:24 PM »
104 here yesterday.  All my trees are fully exposed and in the ground.  They all seem to be loving the heat.  I don't really have much to add to your original post other than in my experience potted plants are much more difficult to keep happy.  PH gets off too easily, fertilizer imbalance, moisture swings, black pots get hot on roots, salt accumulation.  I have much better luck once plants go in the earth.

110F in here and I'm growing 50 cacao seedlings under my moringa tree. Lets see if they survive.  8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: heat woes
« on: June 21, 2017, 05:56:54 PM »
Seedling have a better root system than a grafted tree, who have been living in a small pot for many months. It always better to start your own seedling then graft it with any variety you want. If you live in an arid area, what you need is a root system that is wide and deep to sustain the life of plant and not cramped in small pot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reptonia muscatencesea
« on: June 20, 2017, 07:09:18 PM »
Thanks for posting, Moh'd.  I had never heard of this one so your post inspired me to research it some more.  I was finding very little on this species.  However, I found listings for Reptonia mascatensis, occurring in the same area so I wonder if the species name may have been a typo.  Looks like this one has a lot of synonyms.
It sounds like an interesting fruit.  The pic in the bowl almost looks like a bowl of blueberries.  Keep us posted if you ever have a chance to try this one.


Hi John,

Sorry for my late reply.

About boot fruit, Everyone who visited Jabel al Akdar are amazed about how good it is.  I'll try to ask someone from Oman to bring some for me, But i really doubt I can it this year since we are in Ramadan (fasting month) and the season will end very soon.  :'(

The dark side of Tropical fruit trees.  8)

I hope everything goes well for him.

Evilfruit, thanks for the picture of the Mango tree. Is that a seedling? It's even cooler because there's also peaches growing in the same area. I hope the fruit from that tree is tasty.


You are welcome.

No Idea about the fruit quality but, It could be a turpentine mango seedling because It is very popular in this part of the world.

By the way, We don't call it turpentine mango,  we call it Hambaa Omani (Hambaa = Mango).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Reptonia muscatencesea
« on: June 15, 2017, 07:21:19 PM »
This fruit tree is native to jabel al akdar in Oman. The fruit is supposed to be a very sweet and similar to cherry/black plum in flavor.

The local call it boot fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Mango season 2017 has begun!
« on: June 15, 2017, 07:08:41 PM »
I've been underwhelmed by the quality of the Indian Mangos this year. The mangos came in early but the quality was not as good as 2016 because these mangos appear to have been picked too early and did not reach the Brix levels of the last couple years that I have been reporting on them. The last couple cases of Alphonso, Kesar and Banganpalli were all decent quality but not good enough to make me crave them and purchase case after case like I did in 2016.

Can anyone report back on the quality of the late season fruit for varieties like Kesar? I called Miramar Cash and Carry and they said they still have Kesars.

I was just sent an email from and I find their reports on the progression of Indian Mango season very useful. I like their report not because they tell you which mango varieties are good but because they tell you which varieties weren't so good this season and a reason why they felt the quality was less than expected.


I tried Alphonso two days ago and it was good. The second batch of Kesar was a lot better,imo.

Here is a picture of a mango tree (flowering) in Wakan Village in Oman. Wakan village is located  at about 2000m above the sea level near Jabel Al akdar (green mountain).

Peach tree from the same place

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: vaccinium padifolium
« on: June 14, 2017, 05:37:42 PM »
I see, have you tried using a fungicide ?.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: black chaunsa and Fajri Kalan mango
« on: June 14, 2017, 05:34:59 PM »
Sindhri mango season has started, I should have some on Friday. I'll report back.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: vaccinium padifolium
« on: June 13, 2017, 07:10:10 PM »
Any update ?.

Yeah sure, that would be great but I'm not a big believer in cold Hardy mangos. The research I've done over the last several years has shown that cold tolerance was mostly a factor of the size of the tree with older, larger trees being more resistant to cold weather.


According to the Egyptian lecture, cultivars with Long and thick leaves have a better chance to withstand cold weather than mangoes with small and thin leaves.

here is some of the cultivars that can handle cold (better than other cultivars that are grown in Egypt).

Zebda - timour - mahmoudi - bayeri - Ox heart - Cobbanih - Ewais - Mesk - Langra - Fajri kalan - Wahli Basha

تقسيم الأشجار من حيث درجة احتمالها للبرد :

     1- أشجار قوية الاحتمال :

     زبدة - تيمور - محمودى - بايرى - قلب الثور - كوبانية - عويس - مسك - لانجرابنارس - فجرى كلان - والى باشا .

more info here (use google translator)

Sharkman, thanks for the information! I recall hearing or reading about this somewhere else. I guess the mulch is such a good insulator that it blocks the suns rays from hitting the soil and warming it in the daytime. The best practice would probably be to rake away the leaves in the morning so that the sun can warm the soil and then rake back the mulch at night to hold in the heat. I believe this will probably be too much work for most gardeners so if one has to pick whether or not to use mulch, I would still recommend mulching.

I guess if one were growing in the coldest marginal areas for mango, it would be best practice to clear the mulch on mornings where extreme cold is anticipated that night or the following morning as long as they remember to rake back the insulating mulch that evening. Thanks again for that useful information!


I found a list of cold hardy mangoes that are grown in Egypt. Most Egyptian mangoes are grown in Al Ismailia which has similar climate to Socal. Do you want me to translate that list to English ?.

Al Ismailia climate

You could use date palm to protect your trees but you have to put the root system deep in ground. i have 25 feet date palm (given for free) that was planted 6ft deeper than the regular level/way of planting date palm. If you do that you should not have any problem with date palm roots interrupting your plants.

About moringa

It is better to grow moringa in pots then transform them to the ground.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mangosteen seedlings just arrived
« on: June 06, 2017, 05:27:31 PM »
Why don't you guys try to grow sweet Garcinia indica and Garcinia hombroniana (seashore mangosteen) ?.

These two species should do better and might fruit in your areas (Florida and SoCal).

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