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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overpowering Indian mango flavors?
« on: July 22, 2013, 08:37:55 AM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on July 22, 2013, 04:34:55 AM
Quote from: plantlover13 on July 21, 2013, 08:47:14 PM
The "overpowering" flavor is what i love in a mango, it is a flavor that i crave.

Maybe its cause im indian  ;D (well technically, i'm a natural born american citizen. but ive visited india plenty of times and all my family is there, so it counts, right ???)

BUt yeah, in another thread, i mentioned that i wanted an "in your face" mango. This is what i meant. Pure indian mango. There's a reason   those vendors were those vendors were proud, and it was because they must have had really good mangoes. To most indians, anyway.

I've noticed this issue in other fruits also. I like my sapotas sapodillas (india still uses the spanish name) to have that strong, brown sugar flavor. other people seem to prefer them "clean" and mild. All the "clean" sapodillas that i've eaten in india have been considered by my relatives (and me!) to be bland. Not worth it. I suppose it's just the culture and you own genetics.

I think the name used in India is chiku, not sapodilla.


Chicku is more north india. Sapota is used to a limited extent in south india. THe main reason being that the fruit was introduced by the spaniards, so they word they had for it, "sapota," stuck. Also, whether it is chikoo or sapota varies based on language, and there are plenty of those.

But we digress. essentially, whether you look at a mango or a sapodilla, you can see this difference between cultures in taste preferences.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tiny, sterile mangos?
« on: July 21, 2013, 08:48:31 PM »
In india, there are varieties grown for their tine, undeveloped mangoes that are thenpickeled whole, at the size of about a golf ball. Im pretty sure haden isn't one of those varieties though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overpowering Indian mango flavors?
« on: July 21, 2013, 08:47:14 PM »
The "overpowering" flavor is what i love in a mango, it is a flavor that i crave.

Maybe its cause im indian  ;D (well technically, i'm a natural born american citizen. but ive visited india plenty of times and all my family is there, so it counts, right ???)

BUt yeah, in another thread, i mentioned that i wanted an "in your face" mango. This is what i meant. Pure indian mango. There's a reason   those vendors were those vendors were proud, and it was because they must have had really good mangoes. To most indians, anyway.

I've noticed this issue in other fruits also. I like my sapotas sapodillas (india still uses the spanish name) to have that strong, brown sugar flavor. other people seem to prefer them "clean" and mild. All the "clean" sapodillas that i've eaten in india have been considered by my relatives (and me!) to be bland. Not worth it. I suppose it's just the culture and you own genetics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Condo Mango Varieties?
« on: July 21, 2013, 02:27:07 PM »
Quote from: Squam256 on July 21, 2013, 02:08:12 PM
Alampur Baneshan produces reasonably well in Florida for an Indian mango but definitely has horrible issues with splitting. Its probably worse than NDM #4 in that regard actually.

Like Murahilin alluded to, there are plenty of good Florida mangos that fit the mold you are looking for and won't split like Alampur Baneshan. Maybe it will perform better in container culture though. But as far as "Condo mangoes", you are going to be fairly limited.

I've always wondered, what would happen if i grafted my own mango, but interstocked with pickering? WOuld it dwarf a tree? i have read that interstocking can make trees smaller, and especialy with a pickering mango, well, ya know?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jamaican Red Banana-starting to flower
« on: July 21, 2013, 01:59:29 PM »
Quote from: mikesid on July 21, 2013, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: plantlover13 on July 21, 2013, 10:20:01 AM
How tall is it?
about six foot to the top of the flower..my lowest flowering banana so far...my dwarf cavendish is about 8-9 foot compared to this Jamaican Red...

Is it a dwarf?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Condo Mango Varieties?
« on: July 21, 2013, 01:58:47 PM »
Quote from: murahilin on July 21, 2013, 12:44:45 PM
Quote from: plantlover13 on July 21, 2013, 12:34:05 PM
SO basically i should not trust the variety viewers.

Yup. Don't trust it. Mallika grows pretty quickly. A tree I planted in 07 is around 12-15ft tall now, with pruning. I have to prune it again soon in the next few weeks since all the fruit has been harvested.


Also, I think you should try some of the FL cultivars before you knock them. Using the term "real indian mango flavor" isn't really all that helpful since there are many different flavor profiles for Indian mangos. Some of the citrus and coconut "wannabes" are excellent mangos and you may like them more than any Indian mango.

OH yeah, i know. THose are next  ;D

By "real indian flavor" i mean sweet, with minimal acidity, strong flavor, complex. Alampur baneshan seems to be my number one choiceat the moment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Condo Mango Varieties?
« on: July 21, 2013, 12:34:05 PM »
Quote from: Berto on July 21, 2013, 11:44:59 AM
Mallika is not a "condo" mango.  However, It can be kept small with periodic tip pruning and annual over all pruning.  Mallika is a nice flavored dessert mango, in my opinion. 

SO basically i should not trust the variety viewers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jamaican Red Banana-starting to flower
« on: July 21, 2013, 10:20:01 AM »
How tall is it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Indian Condo Mango Varieties?
« on: July 21, 2013, 10:18:06 AM »
Hello all. I have decided on getting a pickering before I get any other mango, but i want to be informed for when the real bug kicks in.  :D

What condo mangoes (anything that an be managed in a pot) have a real, indian mango flavor? Im talking in your face, im a mango and i know it flavor. no coconut or citrus wannabes.

The description for Alampur Baneshan on PIN seems good, but is it really a condo mango? they have lanciletta listed, and i have heard that it is very vigourus.

So lets have it! What varieties Do you know?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My own mango experiment.
« on: July 21, 2013, 08:56:33 AM »
Quote from: simon_grow on July 20, 2013, 11:56:06 PM
I'm doing a similar experiment right now. I took a manilla mango seedling from Home Depot and planted it into the ground. It was a whip when I planted it about two years ago and this year it flowered and held lots of small fruit which I removed.

Last year, several of us shared an Edward mango from Eunice's tree and I planted the seed. In early Spring of this year, I grafted this Edward seedling onto my Manilla mango in the hopes that next year, the hormones from the manilla mango rootstock will induce the Edward seedling to flower. The Edward seedling was only about 12 inches tall when I topped it for my scion material. Surprisingly, the graft took even though it was early spring and we still had some nights in the fifties.

I'll keep everyone posted on wether or not the scion pushes I flowers next year.
Simon

When you did this, did you defoliate before the flowering season?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Recommended carambola varieties? That has good cold season (winter etc) yield?
« on: July 20, 2013, 08:35:42 PM »
Are carambolas self polinating?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Nurseries in Mobile, AL?
« on: July 20, 2013, 08:46:48 AM »
Thanks.

Oh, and another and probably more important question:

How do i get back on the plane three gallon plants if i buy them from so faraway?

They won't really fit in my suitcase  :o

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Nurseries in Mobile, AL?
« on: July 19, 2013, 08:42:10 PM »
Hey all. I am going to mobile in a month or so, and iwant to buy somefruit trees when i am there to bring back to NY. for that, well, i need a nursery. So does anyone know any good nurseries in or near Mobile? Pensacola, FL is good to, maybe.

Thanks!!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Talk (edible) Artocarpus
« on: July 14, 2013, 08:50:01 AM »
I really have only eaten one, little artocarpus. Never even had breadfruit, i have to get on that.

If only therewas a way to grow alll these in containers. Some sort of universal, artocarpus dwarfing rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Talk (edible) Artocarpus
« on: July 13, 2013, 02:47:43 PM »
I want marang  :( .

Nothing can grow here in NY. I have two little jackfruit trees, that is all.

Anyone tasted Kwai Muk (A. hypargyreus)?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID, and Is It Normal?
« on: July 13, 2013, 02:40:23 PM »
I beleve that fruit turns soft.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let's Talk (edible) Artocarpus
« on: July 13, 2013, 11:38:31 AM »
Taste descriptions?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Let's Talk (edible) Artocarpus
« on: July 13, 2013, 09:42:33 AM »
Hello. I thought I would make a thread just for all edible artocarpus and artocarpus relatives. Wat artocarpus have you Tasted, and how were they?

HEre is my contribution:

A. heterophyllus, Heaven

Anyone else?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seedlings available at Pine Island Nursery...
« on: July 12, 2013, 08:40:50 PM »
I think i might be better off hunting for scionwood. I don't have the resources to spend of an uncertainty. (unless it's a mango. I'm fine with not knowing what my mango tree is for another 10 years. Cause it's a mango, ya know?)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seedlings available at Pine Island Nursery...
« on: July 12, 2013, 05:15:44 PM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on July 11, 2013, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: plantlover13 on July 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM
What varieties are hermaphroditic (did i spell that right?)?

ALso, what is the best method to graft?

Hermaphroditic is not dependent on cultivar, it's dependent on orchard source. Where did you get your seeds? Was it from me? If so they are probably hermaphroditic because all my trees are hermaphrodite.
If you get seeds from an orchard with males and female trees you are much more like to get either male or female.

I have no clue. I planted seeds from store bought fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: question about rambutan from seed.
« on: July 11, 2013, 09:21:53 PM »
What varieties are hermaphroditic (did i spell that right?)?

ALso, what is the best method to graft?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / question about rambutan from seed.
« on: July 11, 2013, 08:55:31 AM »
Hello.I planted rambutan seeds and one is now germinating. What can i expect? will it "revert" to an inferior fruit? How long till it gives fruit? Am i better off grafting onto this with a superior variety? Will i need a male tree to produce fruit if this is female?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gibberellin Question and Seed Starting Questions
« on: July 10, 2013, 08:48:54 AM »
most of the seeds i have are most likely very old.
I know for sure you don't need gibberellin for jackfruit. I have planted two seeds and both sprouted within 5 days. i am moe worried about some harder to sprout seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gibberellin Question and Seed Starting Questions
« on: July 08, 2013, 06:19:11 PM »
DOes anyone know the concentration of GA3 in seaweed extract?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gibberellin Question and Seed Starting Questions
« on: July 08, 2013, 08:31:15 AM »
Thanks all. DOes anyone know the concentration of GA3 in seaweed extract?

Even if it doesn't help, i might as well try it in low quantities.

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