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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulberry Thread.
« on: September 06, 2016, 12:29:05 AM »
Trench and concrete barrier? I put everything all my fig family trees (fig, mulberry) far from house, pool and pipes. When I cut down my big F. benjamina it had a 20ft surface root to the neighbors (overwatered) yard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Labor Day Mango Tasting
« on: September 06, 2016, 12:22:30 AM »
Fun! I've never really payed attention to either Edward or Cogshall, but i see 14 pages of posts on each. Edward seems to be more consistently praised than Cogshall.

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Actually Kona there's an even better source. I thought I had posted about this before but i can't find it. From memory, the mango professor started with thousands of seedlings, culled them down to hundreds mainly for disease but also cold resistance, and has released tens. Though he did have seeds from some top tier mangos to start with, most were not. So setting aside the disease resistance issue, he's released ~13 and lets say he'll eventually release 20 from ~300 plants he kept and all of them better than their juicing mango parentage, so 7%? I've chatted with Leo a couple times, but I don't remember how many seedlings he's topworked. I don't think its that many, maybe 50%? In his case I think he started with mostly top tier. There's a first estimate: 50% will be worth keeping, 5% will be better than the parent (or at least different but equally excellent).

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Kona, anecdotally the chances seem fairly decent for mango, munch better than for apples or even avocados. Behl or Leo (via simon) might be able to tell you how many they planted, how many they kept as being worthwhile and how many were actually better than the parent.

For my own experiments (just finding a rootstock that'll survive), I plan to eventually multigraft, but leave at least one branch from the seedling rootstock. Just to see. For the same reason TheDom mentions, this'll also speed up the flowering of the rootstock.

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PM sent. Does that mean you have one fruiting?

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Nazuk Badan aka Ice cream  brix 28. This mango is spicy unbelievable sweet.... it taste like burn molasses with the strength of a mint enjoyable aftertaste that's long lasting.....the total package....this one is hard to beat.




That sounds amazing.

Shane, if you don't have this in your yard go run and get it!  ;D

Will do ;)

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Nazuk Badan aka Ice cream  brix 28. This mango is spicy unbelievable sweet.... it taste like burn molasses with the strength of a mint enjoyable aftertaste that's long lasting.....the total package....this one is hard to beat.




That sounds amazing.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: HELP! Possible HLB Infection
« on: August 26, 2016, 11:33:33 PM »
looks like normal deficiencies to me and leaf miner

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey sapote
« on: August 26, 2016, 09:53:10 PM »
My wife and I were very curious too last year, and bought one at our local market for like $3.99/lbs.

The taste was very disappointing to us: tasteless, bland. One member said it taste like a boiled carrot; and I would say that's about how I would describe it myself. Did we buy it at the wrong season?

Fairly close to sweet potato to me. Nice, but not worth growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey sapote
« on: August 25, 2016, 10:59:51 PM »
Those two aren't Mamey (I mean Mamey sapote)  they are a different fruit call here Chico Sapote    or  Sapodilla in other places (Manilkara Sapota)  both fruits are tasty but very different.

Do chico seeds get that big?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I graft wax Jambu on rose Apple?
« on: August 25, 2016, 10:57:46 PM »
Ben Poirier does it:

http://encantofarms.com/poirier.html

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Syzygium samarangense - Wax Jambu - named cultivars grafted onto Rose apple rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey sapote
« on: August 25, 2016, 08:39:05 PM »
Yes good luck next time. I've had good ones from markets here. I think at least one of the nurseries has fruiting trees too.

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Got some new growth on my tree.



It looks similar to joe's 2nd picture. Joe states that his leaf undersides are smooth. Mine are also smooth and shiny as you can see in the picture.

Is it possible that the "leaves densely silky on both sides, later hairless above" is a mistake and that they are in fact silky on the top only and later smooth? Or is it more likely that we are growing a different species or hybrid? In all other regards it matches the Argentea description.

Btw, this is as far as my fruits are getting. Then they shrivel up and drop:



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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Caper
« on: August 21, 2016, 04:43:07 PM »
Will give it a shot Rannman.

From 2nd set of hand pollinated. I don't seem to be getting many otherwise:



I love this plant. Has only been watered 3 or 4 times since it established a year ago. Lovely flowers. Attracts butterflies. Edible!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Beveled miter saw double rootstock graft
« on: August 18, 2016, 09:03:28 PM »
Maybe you can replicate this with a saw. Grinder cutting starts around 1:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLbgPUUGDo4

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atypical grafting techniques?
« on: August 18, 2016, 01:45:43 PM »
Here you go.  http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=19238.msg239223#msg239223

Simon


Thanks Simon. Tried this a couple years ago on an avocado (mentioned early in this discussion). Didn't work green through green. Going to try now on surinam cherry.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atypical grafting techniques?
« on: August 18, 2016, 11:55:24 AM »
I believe the drill method is actually thread grafting used in Bonsai that I posted before.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IxVS3zOheJg

Simon

I'm thinking of trying this again with some other trees. Can't find your old thread. Help?!

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Beautiful.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atypical grafting techniques?
« on: August 05, 2016, 11:46:47 AM »
I am using a drill. I saw a video about it.and adapted it. I used to graft some sproured seeds of mexican garcinia (Luc) in 4 years old garcinia seashore. With the drill I make a hole in an upper branch of the seashore. I use the sprouted seed when it does not have leaves yet, so I put the little branch in the hole.  Later both grow and graft

That's excellent! What's "garcinia seashore"? How do you attach the seedling pot? Could you post some pictures?

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Hello friends
In PR  I have eaten 5 varieties of mamoncillo very sweet and easy to separate from the seed.
Among these they are:
Sasa, José Pabón and quenepa Ponce, but for me the best is Sasa.
In PR only need 1 grafted tree for produce fruits, The flowers of grafted trees are hermaphrodite.
I have 1 Sasa and 1 José Pabón tree.

Thanks for the feedback! The fruit I tried in CR seemed to get overripe kinda quickly. Is that true of mamoncillo and does it vary between cultivars?

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Now that my POG mamoncillos are starting to show some life after a year, and I got to taste some on vacation, I'm wondering about superior cultivars.

The only thing I see available online is from TT. Several self-fruiting cultivars. Are they better than your average seedling or the POG trees?


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Citrus General Discussion / new issue of topics in subtropics out
« on: August 02, 2016, 08:51:31 PM »
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TOPICS IN THIS ISSUE:

• “We Shall Defend our Citrus, We Shall Fight in Backyards and Community Gardens, We Shall Fight in Organic and Conventional Citrus Orchards; We Shall Never Surrender.”

• Organic Control of Asian Citrus Psyllid is Challenging

• Citrus Clonal Protection Program (CCPP) and National Clean Plant Network (NCPN): A Model System for Management of Citrus Diseases

• Discouraging citrus varieties smuggling by offering easy access to pathogen-tested budwood


The last piece is really good.

http://ceventura.ucanr.edu/?newsitem=64475

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It's often said that tropicals dislike the cold + wet winters of temperate climates. That could be related to lack of fungal resistance in the rootstock. Directly or as a result of cold stress. That'd be a longer term thing though. Different from succumbing to a cold snap/freeze.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Caper
« on: July 29, 2016, 07:48:08 AM »
Nice. I have many fruit growing now. The two biggest are from the first two flowers I hand pollinated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is Cacao Possible in SoCal
« on: July 28, 2016, 05:29:57 PM »
I'm wondering what the decade freeze is going to do.

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