Just an idea, but would be interesting to breed this with a Lisa or Noel's big red... maybe get some really interesting red offspring.

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Zands... come one post that NDM tree pic. 

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Try LSU purple in a large pot, partial shade, water so it doesn't dry out on hot days. You will win.

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Yes, have seen it many times, although I cannot explain why/how this occurs.



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Planted the one PSM seed I had, up came two shoots.

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Surprised this is still being debated, can we just agree it's the most reddish jackfruit known?!?! 😂

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Fruit lovers brings up a real point about how we don't have studies on this sort of thing. Some answers include time and money but also that human biology is incredibly complex. Say we were to compare the incidence of Alzheimer's in vegans vs omnivorous diet? The results would take decades to read out and millions and millions of dollars to fund and in the end the data may show a non significant difference! It would have to be a huge study with many people to avoid such anecdotes as hey I'm a vegan and I'm in great shape... most professional athletes are likely omnivores, maybe a wild guess.

I am under the opinion that we are living better off through technology, over time our quality of life and life expectancy has grown from those 100 years ago, and those before them ect. Some of the health issues we face today are result of previous problems solved and are now efficient, but life is so efficient now you don't even have to get off the couch, the sedentary lifestyle and breeds obesity/metabolic syndrome. Foods are jam packed with calories (Big Mac, large fries, and coke) very few people are actually starving in US vs 3rd world countries, it is very easy to overindulge. Look at the Starbucks rainbow pixie drink like why, why on earth is that even tolerated? I have been fortunate to go to Europe the past two years on vacation and one blatant observation is that the fattest people in Italy, Spain, Greece...are the Americans on vacation. It's sad but we are so unaware because obesity is so common place here in America. People think about obesity as the fat person on tv who can't get out of bed, but may be a bit surprised to calculate their own ideal body weight.

For 7.5 years I was a pharmacist at a grocery store and can tell you that near 70% of disease is treatable with generic medicines on the wallmart 4$/10$ list this is an incredible efficiency. So efficient it is abused. Had a patient once, 36 yo female on amlodipine, metoprolol, hydrochlorothiazide, birth control, alprazolam. I would see her grocery cart, see the shit she would eat: candy, frozen foods, deli fried chicken...(Truth be told your healthcare provider is human and does judge you). But overtime she started buying Whole Foods, juicing vegetables, eating lean meat, and took up hot yoga. She was able to lose the weight, her resting blood pressure dropped and she was able to stop her blood pressure medication and overtime she would only come in to talk and pick up her monthly birth control and occasional alprazolam. She didn't just stop her medication in two weeks because a mirical diet, she busted her ass doing hot yoga and ate less calories with a nutritious balanced diet. This is a success story, this is what makes those involved in healthcare happy, sadly it is few and far between.

When people worry about this causes cancer that causes cancer for crying out loud the sun causes cancer. Some real simple recommendations for improving health, watch your your salt intake, walk 30 minutes a day, 5 days a week, and don't over indulge. Be educated on target A1c, Blood pressure, body weight, and chlolestorl. And remember that what determines a poison is the dose.

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Thing is the pics above of the sweet tart flushing growth, just happens to be the time of year when every other mango tree in FL is flushing growth with or without ormus. Referring to npk fertilizers in a negative light as "chemicals" but in rawest form are just elements like the elemental make up of "ormus" does a disservice.

If you wanted to test the hypothesis that ormus provides maybe faster/robust growth during flushing season vs conventional fertilizer run your own randomized blinded study with 4 trees, it would be small "n" and have a family member prepare ormus and conventional fert and apply to trees while you record and track the results not aware which trees are getting what nutrients, then after the season compare the results and ask the family memeber which trees got what. Caveat would be the 4 trees would have to be same cultivar as diff cultivars have diff vigor.

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I read the comments on this thread and it really cracks me up. I really like what truly tropical has to offer, Chris is awesome and a real passionate grower, and the nice patrons I interact with when I am able to get down there. The mangos I selected, some to eat and though this sounds stupid some for the SEED (more on this). Judging by the comments it's not obvious so let me say it's not a representation of every stage of ripeness of what they offer, some were too ripe, but pick your elitist poison when you are able. Some people mail mangos and so they do pick some earlier for this reason yada yada.

The seeds: many have seen the seedling Ivory post but it's gotten me excited to start planting mango seeds again, and so I set off to get some mangos to eat but also picked specimens which were not common or specifically poly seeds that I wanted to plant irregardless of ripeness.

The few times I've gone this year I've bought almost every sweet tart I saw, I've got some great tasting ones and have about 7 poly seeds planted. The BKM in pic likely won't ripen right but it's a Polly seed, which likely not many are planting out. The PSM I bought is a total runt of the PSM's I've seen in past but it was the only one they had and I'm pretty sure it's a poly seed, and who is planting this cultivar out trying to improve upon it?

The experiment is a long term one, but here's how it goes: when poly seeds are planted a few shoots rise up one is a sexual new cultivar while others are clones. When I look at the shoots there seems to be a straggler shoot or two in the bunch that grows much slower, the runts. Avg person might say cull the runts and grow the most vigorous, but I'm going to keep the runts and grow them out anyways and just watch them to see if they have any dwarfing benefit 🤞

Anyways truly tropical is awesome, and offers a huge selection of mangos for sale unlike any of the two tree townhome renting wise crackin mango groupies with a computer key board.

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Yeah, I live an 1.5 hrs north so I'll take what I can get lol. Excited to try pineapppe pleasure finally even though it's been out for few years and probably "old hat" now.

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Hey forum,

Found this presentation and thought it was really interesting to pass along, maybe way more than any of us backyard growers need, but interesting part on calcium. Never really thought about calcium and it turns out there is a huge role. Another point to consider is Richard campbells orchard and how he is digging through bedrock of limestone and coral.... i.e. a goldmine of calcium carbonate CaCO3 mango nutrients. Check it out -> https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/AustralianMangoes/food-for-fruit-nutrition-management-in-mangoes

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Well the day finally came, when I finally got to try the fruit of years patience, but sadly not in the best condition. Only one came off the tree this year so I felt a lot riding on this singular fruit, it has been raining like crazy and within past week the fruit has swollen bigly. The kicker was when I came home today from work and saw a squirrel had eaten the top corner of the mango while still on the tree which by now was bulging out of the plastic strawberry case supposed I placed to protect it.

The fruit was large, measured 8.75in long and weighed 2.48lbs, was mostly green with some yellowing on the outside of one side as well as the top squirrel eaten part cut aside. The shape resembling an Asian mango (parentage ivory x ? ).  Due to this being the only mango I'm sure future years crop will vary under better picking and ripening conditions but I will report on what was. I did not notice any noticeable scent on the outside. The flesh was bright yellow and completely fiberless with obvious jelly seed. The flavor varied all over the place as A this was a yuge mango and B a mix of jelly seed, overripe, underripe, and decent ripeness. I did taste the Ivory terpenes in this mango most notably near the skin, I tasted some NDM honey flavor in the deep flesh with some Fairchild thrown in. The rest of the underripe mango resembled okrung eaten green which was actually exciting because i think there is potential for this as a versatile mango that can be enjoyed green or ripe. Another interesting point about this mango was the monoembryonic seed, which when I initially planted was also from a mono seed, I have planted other Ivory mangos I had purchased from Excalibur in the past and they were poly with many shoots of which I threw away. Personally I have yet to see a mono seed with Asian body but I have only eaten maybe near close to 130 mango types.

Anyways this year is a big vegetative year and looking forward to a big harvest next year under better conditions hopefully. Also per the crop, I hope to be able to send some members samples under condition tasting reviews would be posted if anyone down for that.

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I kinda took it with a grain of salt when I saw the rocks against the tree trunks and the rationale....  🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MPoqqzwdY

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