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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Endangered Fruit Species Part 2
« on: March 15, 2012, 02:40:37 AM »
Pouteria Tree (Pouteria coelomatica)

Aha!

I do have one on your list after all!!!

Ive been really excited about this one!

PS if I'm not mistaken P. bullata is not endangered or rare.

....ok I checked its vulnerable! not endangered I guess..but I remember lorenzi's book saying it was frequent in nature? another mistake?


The IUCN Red List categorizes species as "vulnerable" if they fall under any of these criteria (in short);
  • Major reduction in population size over time
  • Limited Geographic range
  • Limited Population size (including that of subpopulations)
  • Analysis showing probability of extinction
E.g. a species can be fairly common in nature, but still be vulnerable if the population decline is rapid.

927
Of exotic fruits we have many of the common ones here in Uganda; Jackfruit, Eugenia uniflora, Annona squamosa, different citrus, melons and some grafted avocado and mango to name a few. Then all the indigenous species; Tamarind being one of them, but the climate is good for just about all tropical and subtropical species though a bit on the dry side.

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Hi Tony,
Welcome - I had the same question (what's my "zone") but with a bit of google search discovered that I am in zone 12 (http://www.backyardgardener.com/zone/africa.html)...

930
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GAC Melon
« on: March 13, 2012, 01:32:56 PM »
I've seen it dead on the fence at the Fruit & Spice Park.  I'm assuming that it died back, but it gets up into all the nearby trees so it is possible that it was sprayed or severed at the (multiple) base(s).

When it was first introduced to the Park, they used have to hand-pollinate it to get fruit, now an unknown (to me) pollinator handles the task.

M. foetida has a perennial rootstock. Dieback happens during the dry season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GAC Melon
« on: March 13, 2012, 03:41:58 AM »
I am growing a 'similar' species from Uganda; Momordica foetida - which is edible and not bad at all, it is spread by birds and is seen in disturbed soils where it at times can exclude other vegetation from being established by creating dense mats of vines.
It is also used for medicine purposes.

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There is a new selection of this fruit now of this fruit that is about 2x the size. If anyone is interested i have seedlings available.
Oscar

Sounds like a step in the right direction Oscar.! A selection from your nursery?

933
Soren,

About the time we published the results of most of the first generation of Annona hybrids,  we were gathering seeds of a second generation, bred by crossing first generation hybrids with each other.  Those were planted.  When they were good-sized in 3-gallon containers, ready to plant out to the field, Zill suddenly decided to donate them all to the Chapman Field Experiment Station of the USDA.  When I offered to aid the person there to interpret my notations on the tags, he wasn't interested, saying he was going to "group them by families."

I once got to see the hybrids in their field there, as I looked through the window of a speeding tour bus on open-to-the-public day.


Har - I am sorry to hear that, you must have been heartbroken about this.! Were there other interesting hybrids which emerged from the work done, not necessarily of commercial interest? 

934
I agree, this is a very nice fruit. Though the skin is relatively thick I still have problems with fruitflies if left too long on the bush.

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / Re: Online photo gallery of fruits
« on: March 09, 2012, 12:23:01 AM »
Epic pictures/galleries! I don't know how many hours I've spend watching at this pictures..

I agree, it is a must-see.

936
Regarding "organic warfare", some entomologists from Aarhus University in Denmark (where I studied) started a project raising weaver ant colonies to help African farmers keeping other insects away from their fruit trees - written in Danish but translated by Google;
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fjp.dk%2Faarhus%2Fuddannelse%2Farticle2277488.ece

Not sure if you can order a colony by mail  :D

937
Thanks Adam,
I am a bit curious which rare Annona spp. the members are growing, and if further attempt where made by Garry and Har on the hybridization (with a reference to GENERAL OBSERVATIONS ON HYBRIDIZING ANNONA SPECIES. Gary E. Zill and Har Mahdeem, 1998).? I understand A. diversifolia was abandoned as a parent for this project, but used (successfully?) by others. Are there any known cultivar of these hybrids?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 07, 2012, 04:12:44 AM »
nice pics- had never heard of it

The leaves have a silver-like gloss on the backside - so next to a Chrysophyllum cainito tree you can get some nice contrasts; it should also be mentioned that the tree is drought tolerant and grows fairly fast.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Picked a Rollinia today
« on: March 07, 2012, 01:16:06 AM »
"Leather-Leaf" and "Excellent" are merely translations of "coreacea" and "excellens".  The latter, which I used to call "corbipetala" because I hadn't yet located a botanical description of it,  is very ornamental and aromatic, but of mediocre eating quality, at least as grown here.  My only tree died years ago after being roughed up by the hurricanes of 2004-2005.

Guanabanus,

I've seen the tree you speak of i think.

Does the leaf look much more coriaceous, and glabrous than muricata?

They are also less cold sensitive, with larger leaves?

I may be able to get you some bud stix of this one.  It must be quite rare, because I've never seen it in a book, or on the web...just in person.

Maybe its not the same?

Har - without further attempt to derail this topic - we are all hungry for more information on rare Annona and your knowledge on hybridization within this genus, can't we have a new thread on subject?

940
That would be the high-tech version  ;)

941
Found the photo on another thread - guess I am a bit slow linking the two  ???
Anyway nice big size, the protrusions are smaller than observed on my fruits, but the individual conical segments much better.



I am assuming this is the right picture?

942
I am not seeing and ant deterred by duct tape or a rubber band.  ?

Ducktape is placed inside out, i.e. the sticky side out. The rubberband is something mentioned on the yahoo group, I have not tried this myself.

943
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Picked a Rollinia today
« on: March 06, 2012, 03:41:49 AM »
From the yahoo group I can see Anestor wrote "...have a tree that bears fruit large (Var. Humungous), whose fruits are not very sweet" and "...produces big fruits on a small tree. It weighed more than 1,500 kg".
No information whether this tree is a seedling or not.

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / Online photo gallery of fruits
« on: March 06, 2012, 03:19:59 AM »
Anestor Mezzomo from Brazil has an impressive online photo gallery of fruits.

https://picasaweb.google.com/101936771881917391876/

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There are often a symbiotic relationship between ants and aphids, where the ants protects the aphids against predators for the return of food (honeydew). By disrupting this relationship, it is often possible to ensure the aphids get wiped out by parasitoids and  other predators. To do this, a rubberband or ducktape around the stem of the fruit tree will prevent the ants for moving further up, and thereby leave the aphids vulnerable.

946
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:53:12 AM »
I don't think a none-standard NPK fertilizer will be available here in Uganda - however 'potash' is, so let me try it out.

947
I currently have seeds of Sarteneja Red Custard Apple, "Big Red" Sugar apple , "Big Green" Sugar apples and the "Giant Amazon Beauty" Rollinia.




Any photos of the "Giant Amazon Beauty" that can give a hint about size, shape and appearance? I have heard from others about your big biriba fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:26:00 AM »
It really looks good - hope to get the same load of fruits soon  ;D

949
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Picked a Rollinia today
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:17:04 AM »
Fruit appearance varies on the same tree at the same time, so it is un-wise for me to speak definitively, but Anestor's photo shows fruits that are more oblong and heavier lobed than mine.

True, there can be expected a phenotypic diversity in the 'fruit' characters for the same genotype - this caused a minor inconsistency for our work with Abies procera many years back.

Soursop, Mountain-Soursop, Leather-Leafed Sop, and Excellent Sop all can be interbred with each other...

Not familar with the names Leather-Leafed Sop and Excellent Sop, which botanical names are these?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Fruit So-Shang Elaeagnus latifolia
« on: March 06, 2012, 01:05:17 AM »
Nice pictures - so the tree(s) finally produced instead of just dropping the flowers! I pruned one tree, and are waiting to see if that will be followed by a blossom.

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