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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID these plants ?
« on: July 29, 2017, 04:49:15 PM »
any ideas ??






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leaves look a little like muntingia, but, its not.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bignay, and help me pick some plants
« on: June 24, 2017, 09:47:58 AM »
First, i have a question about Bignay
i searched all over, and cant find   much on frost tolerance /zones.
anyone have 1st hand knowledge ?

 It is hardy to zone (UK) 10 and is frost tender.
http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Antidesma+bunius

 Will stand light frosts.
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/antidesma-bunius-bignay-seeds

this says zone 9
https://mygardenofdelights.com/antidesma-bunius-bignay-bignai-plant.html

i read conflicting reports as to whethere it needs a second plant for fruit ?
also
i got cuttings from someone a while back
is this bignay ?


next question is...
i want to get 2 to 3 of plants from mygardenofdelights.com

out of these
what would be your favorite as far as fruit taste
and production ?
a long fruiting season is a big plus, but, only if the flavor is at least decent.

Campomansia liniatifolia, milky guava,
Dillenia indica, elephant apple,
Dovyalis hybrid, tropcial apricot prodigal
Governor's Plum  Flacourtia indica,
Pseudanamomis umbellifera, monos plum
Garcinia xanthochymus
Garcinia dulcis

and of these 3
are any of them any good as fruits
which is best ?

Coccoloba diversifolia, piegeon plum
Coccoloba uvifera, sea grape
Chrysobalanus icaco, cocoplum


cheers
Brad






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Have: Muntingia seedlings (3 to 8 inches tall)
guava seedlings (all sizes) , loquat seedlings (1yr+)


WANT: Inga Feuillei seedlings, or seeds
or
loquat scions (improved variety)
Feijoa scions (improved variety)




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Have: 4 Muntingia seedlings
from 3 inches to 8 inches tall.

also have
Monstera deliciosa seedlings
guava seedlings (Mex cream parent)
milkweed, papaya,

want:

loquat and Feijoa scions (named cultivars)

Pachira aquatica (or glbara or other)
- other sub-tropical nut tree , edible seed etc...

Inga feuillei (Pacay)
other cold-hardy Inga

Plinia edulis

neem tree seedling
coffee seedling

top tasting guava (large sift sweet etc...)

Black Persian Mulberry
Azanza garckeana
Arracacha (Arracacia xanthorrhiza )

Or ???



30
looking for Nance , cambuca, and Phalsa plants.
prefer 1 to 3 gallon, but would consider seedlings, or possibly seeds ?
(if i cant find plants)

can purchase, or trade.

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I have several cuttings already with roots
of a neighbors fig (un named) it is productive.

i have 1 rooted cutting of my Black Mission fig
excellent flavor. and a real BM.

and several seedlings 3 to 5 inches tall
(a couple larger) of my Mexican Cream guava.
+2 larger seedlings of loquat (sweet and sour)

looking for mango seedlings, bignay, sapodilla, Kwai Muk,
or... what ya got ?
in zone 9b, so i cant use Cacao and other ultra-tropicals.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Which Annona to get ?
« on: April 06, 2017, 04:37:24 PM »
So i have been keeping a distance from Annonas
as i am not sure of the cold tolerance, and hearing about problems with pollination.

I am now thinking of taking the plunge.
but, have no idea what to get.
Im in New Orleans zone 9a/9b ish

Toptrops has some for sale now
and i dont know which one to get ?
i would love something that has a long fruiting season.
and hardy ...

Here are the choices at Toptrops
though, happy to look elsewhere if someone has one better.

suggestions ?

Annona reticulata - Custard Apple, seedling
 $39.95

 Annona reticulata - Red Custard Apple var. Tobago Pink
$49.95

 Annona Kampong Mauve - Red Sugar Apple
$74.95

https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_reticulata

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 Annona cherimola x A. squamosa - Atemoya Lisa (48-26)
$44.95
https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_atemoya

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Annona squamosa - Vietnam Sugar Apple Na Di
$54.95

Annona squamosa var. Thai-Lessard, Green Sugar Apple
$44.95

https://toptropicals.com/cgi-bin/garden_catalog/cat.cgi?uid=Annona_squamosa

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Magnifera - Doughnut tree
« on: April 01, 2017, 07:57:39 AM »
Why Dulcis ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-f2NSNL9_A&feature=youtu.be

you get 12 fruit per limb
but, 13 on Sunday morning :)

sister  plants in the same genus...
  Chocoletera Glazediffera ?
  eclair-ista sprinkletra ?
  Donutera roundella ?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cecropia peltata
« on: March 29, 2017, 11:35:43 PM »
curious if anyone is growing this
or knows about it ?
The website says you need male and female for seed
but, the edible part are "finger like structures"... does that mean they need to be pollinated
or, can you get fruit from all trees, or just females, or ??

frost ? (PFAF says zone 9 - 12)

http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Cecropia+peltata

http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Cecropia+peltata

https://toptropicals.com/catalog/uid/Cecropia_peltata.htm


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anyone know if this company is any good ?

mygardenofdelights.com

the only place i knew to look is Daves Garden
which has mostly bad reviews. But... the most recent is 2012.
They do seem to carry a couple of plants which are hard to find and have shipped.

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Ive had very limited luck finding places that carry things lke
bignay, Nance, peanut butter fruit, Kwai Muk etc...

at least no place carries them, i can find,  that ships
moreover, i really want 7gal plants, but will take 3gal
if thats all i can find.

I have used PIN and Top Tropicals in the past
PIN has a limited selection, and doesnt ship anything over 3-gal.
I like Top-trops, they often have larger plants, and while the website
might show "Bignay", (or others), they are often not in stock.

Also, as far as Bignay goes
my understanding is there are grafted plants that fruit ?
Some sources say you need a male and female.
right ?





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / interesting Inga (Pilosula ?)
« on: March 15, 2017, 09:11:42 AM »
interesting article on some of the lesser known Inga

The Inga Plant Family
http://www.indigenous-rainforest-keepers.com/the-inga-plant-family.html

Anyone familiar with Pilosula ?
It appears the fruit isnt as large
i am wondering if the cold tolerance is better ?
and how good is the flavor.
there is one on Ebay fairly cheap.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / new yard projects
« on: March 12, 2017, 08:29:41 AM »
i love papaya, and only had a couple of plants that made it through the winter.
i took 1 potted plant and added it to a mound i made for a Blood Orange.
i added an Aloe i had as well.

i had gotten 3 yards of soil high in organic matter.
i added coffee grounds and mixed with local soil.
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Papaya plant i had in a container that made it through the winter
even though i failed to get it in the greenhouse.




This is a pic of the local soil, mixed with aged grounds




aged grounds




This is a Blood-Orange and an Aloe Vera...  i made a mound for the 3 plants.






Just had to post a pic of my Jabo that is putting out lots of new growth...
colors are pretty striking
also, a mango that made it through the winter ( i lost a few)
and a Cedar Bay Cherry


 


and a large bag of coffee grounds i get from  Starbucks weekly.



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Grumichama

Grumichama i got from Sykes Tropicals. Only place i could find that had a 7 gal Grumi
and would ship it.
I had cut down a large tree in the backyard, and used some of the cut trunk as borders.
its a bit chlorotic looking
hopefully a bit of iron and epsom salts will help that.
The soil i had bought (3 yards originally) i mixed with some local soil
its very high in organic matter, and i spent 20 mins taking out bits of wood chunks.







Grumi roots

The plant was root bound. bad.
it took another 20 mins to tease out the roots
glad i did.
i didnt think to take a pic until after i was already into teasing them out
but i think you can still see the difference.









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they find a nice Inga at 47mins

https://vimeo.com/133834425
Their are over 20,000 Species of Edible plants on the planet, but Humans use only about 20 Species to provide 90% for our food. So why do we Utilize so little when their is so much? Joseph Simcox, a passion driven Food Plant Ecologist has traveled to over 100 countries, finding, documenting & eating all the plants we don't use. From the deep jungles of Papua New Guinea To the vast deserts of Namibia Africa, he sheds light on the extraordinary wonders of the edible plant world. In this Film Joe meets up with his brother Patrick Simcox in Peru, along with there team, and ventures deep into the Amazon Jungle to document, eat, & shed light on a small fraction of some the most amazing things nature has to offer. Come along on the Adventure!
For more Info Visit: explorewithjoseph.com

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Interesting which plants pulled through
and the size /age of the tree making it more hardy...






PDF

http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1963-vol-76/374-377%20(SNOW).pdf

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http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1958-vol-71/341-344%20(LEDIN).pdf


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Myrcianthes pungens / shade / re-plant ?
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:08:01 PM »
so i have what i think is M Pugens
and since i just got some soil, i planted it out - in full sun...

since i just planted it, i guess i could dig it up, its not that large.
its even a few inches above grade.
i did tease-out the roots, which were hanging a good 1 to 2ft down into the hole though...

Alternate option is to plant something else next to it that can provide some dappled shade ?

not absolutely posoitive about the ID, but a crumpled leaf does have a aromatic aroma.
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Habitat
Semi-deciduous forests, the humid understorey of Araucaria forests and on open rocky slopes
Prefers a position in dappled shade

http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Myrcianthes+pungens










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Psidium ID and strange growth.
« on: February 23, 2017, 11:32:54 AM »
Since Psidium varieties are back on the forum i thought i would try and get a consensus
 of what these plants IDs are

one of them may actually not even be Psidium ? (maybe M. Pugens?)

aalso to note
the strange growth pattern on the 2nd plant
i am sure the frost had something to do with it.
but the leaf growth is coming from the trunk, and not making new stems.

both plants were just subject to 26F to 28F temps.
(a few weeks ago)


click for larger pics.







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plant #2






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this is an older pic of plant #2






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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB mulberry and Loquat scions/cuttings
« on: February 22, 2017, 04:47:53 PM »
Looking for good varieties of Loquat and Mulberry.
would rather trade, but can spend a few $ if needed

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / ID please ?
« on: February 21, 2017, 09:54:39 PM »
So ive been finding a few plants in the garden
i have no idea what they are.
Very possible they are seeds i planted 1 or 2 or 3 years ago
seedling soil was composted, and they ended up in the garden.

anyway...

any ideas / suggestions are welcome...

first plant...
i initially thought this was West Indian Elm ?
but, i have no idea now...
THere is a 2nd seedling that is identical, but smaller...







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2nd plant








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3rd plant





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4th planjt

this is not the same plant as #3
but it looks like the same family ... ?






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5th and last plant

its looks a little like Loquat, but, i dont think it is.
usually, loquat leaves get darker with age, even in seedlings.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cleistocalyx operculatus (C. nervosum)
« on: February 18, 2017, 07:55:53 PM »

Anyone familiar with this plant
and its cold tolerance ?
i found seeds on ebay, but no telling if
they are any good ?

it seems  "The seed loses viability quickly"


Cleistocalyx operculatus,
also known as C. nervosum (DC.) Kosterm. ,
Eugenia operculata Roxb., 1832,
Syzygium nervossum
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Cleistocalyx_operculatus

Syzygium nervosum
http://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Syzygium+nervosum
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There are four Cleistocalyx species and 84 Syzygium species in Thailand, all of which are treated by the Flora of Thailand vol. 7:4 (2002).
 Kew Gardens Plant List do not recognize ‘Cleistocalyx‘ as a valid genus
 and so Cleistocalyx nervosus var. paniala is named Syzygium nervosum.

Since the Dokmai Garden specimen has the calyx cap, grey bark, 20 mm long elongated fruits (only 8-9 mm long in Syzygium cumini ) and large leaves (much longer than the 13.6 cm which is the maximum length in Syzygium cumini) I conclude this is Cleistocalyx nervosus var. paniala (syn. Syzygium nervosum). I have had great difficulties finding an English name, which is surprising since this fruit is commercially available in Chiang Mai as well as in India, Bangladesh and Burma. ‘Mah-Kiang’ will have to do for the time being. A troublesome fact is that the diameter of this fruit is only 1 cm, while the Flora of Thailand claims it should be more than 1.5 cm, but the author may have compared the diameter of the round fruit of the variety nervosum with the length of the elongated fruit of the variety paniala (Mah-Kiang). I am most eager to get comments on my identification from our experienced readers worldwide so that we can build up a reference collection with confidence.

https://dokmaidogma.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/confusing-thai-fruits/


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Elaeagnus ebbingei (siverberry) - fruit ?
« on: February 18, 2017, 06:59:01 PM »
Anyone ever try the fruit from Elaeagnus ebbingei ?

Or, has anyone grafted Elaeagnus  ?

I got 2 plants from Home Despot last year (3gal) for $2 each
they are already putting out fruit, and they have turned red, and not astringent anymore.
But, the fruit have very little flesh.
the seed is very woody, though i chew on it a bit and spit it out.
 
Or, is this normal to have this little flesh, and be oblong ?
from pics i thought the Autumn olive and goumi fruits were more roundish
and had more flesh on them ?

I am hoping to either buy a So Shan (E Latifolia) or grow some from seed.
the seed project isnt going to well though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / mulberry... long fruiting season variety ?
« on: February 18, 2017, 06:49:37 PM »
So i have a local wild red mulberry that fruits for 3 weeks or so every year.
I also have a couple of trees i originally got from a trade from Florida
supposedly everbearing ? But they produce small but good tasting berries in spring
(for a few weeks), then in fall produce very small shriveled fruit (not worth much)

I also have a "dwarf everbearning" i got from i think Hirts ?
but, its basically the same as the ones i got in trade... fall fruits are very small and shriveled.

I bought a Pakistani last year, but it hasnt fruited yet.

I keep reading on some of the vendor pages
of varieties that produce "through mid summer" ?

Is there a variety that will produce a medium to large fruit
that produces more than just a few weeks
OR... fruits in fall instead of spring ?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / kaphal
« on: February 14, 2017, 06:54:43 PM »

anyone familiar with this fruit
or, where i can get seeds ??

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KAPHAL
(Myrica nagi)
A tree of kaphal in forest
Synonyms: Myrica esculenta, Myrica farquhariana, Myrica sapida
English name: Box myrtle
The tree yields a drupaceous fruit which is one of the tastiest wild fruits of the sub-Himalayan region. This fruit tree carries a lot of commercial importance and every year its fruits worth thousands of rupees are sold in different towns of Himachal Pradesh. These fruits are very much liked by all.

Utilization

The small seedy fruits of kaphal are very much liked by all for their taste and juiciness. Huge quantities of this wild fruit are picked by the villagers from the forests and sold in towns. The fruits easily sell 4 to 5 rupees a kg. Every year the fruit of this tree, worth thousands of rupees, is sold in towns. It is a good source of extra income for the villagers.



Kaphal fruits being sold at Mandi town in India.

            The fruits, unfortunately, are not good keepers and their shelf-life does not exceed 2-3 days. As already mentioned under chemical composition, these fruits are fairly juicy and the percentage of extractable juice is about 40 per cent. The juice has a very attractive sparkling red colour. Efforts should be made to standardize a technique for its utilization.

            The major problem in the case of this fruit is that the harvesting period is too long and fruits from a single tree have to be harvested in many pickings. However, this is the only cost involved in the case of this fruit, the numerous trees bearing which are growing wild in the forests. This cost can, therefore, be overlooked.

            Kaphal is a tall and spreading evergreen tree. It should be very useful in avenue plantation in the hills. Besides providing shade and ornamental look, it will. also yield fruit.

            The small seedy fruits of kaphal are very much liked by all for their taste and juiciness. Huge quantities of this wild fruit are picked by the villagers from the forests and sold in towns. Every year the fruit of this tree, worth thousands of rupees, is sold in towns. It is a good source of extra income for the villagers.

            The fruits, unfortunately, are not good keepers and their shelf-life does not exceed 2-3 days. As already mentioned under chemical composition, these fruits are fairly juicy and the percentage of extractable juice is about 40 per cent. The juice has a very attractive sparkling red colour. Efforts should be made to standardize a technique for its utilization.

            Another problem in the case of this fruit is that the harvesting period is too long and fruits from a single tree have to be harvested in many pickings. However, this is the only cost involved in the case of this fruit, the numerous trees bearing which are growing wild in the forests. This cost can, therefore, be overlooked.

            Kaphal is a handsome spreading evergreen tree. It should a suitable avenue plant in the hills. Besides providing shade and ornamental look, it will also yield fruit.

 
http://www.fruitipedia.com/kaphal.htm

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i need to purchase a few plants
i had a couple of plants die and have openings :)
but, some of the surrounding plants will shade them out if too small.

so, i want between 4 to 7 plants.
and 3 to 10 gallons or so.
Grumi is on top the list since its a bit cold hardy and also tasty.
also looking possibly at Surinam cherry, Sapodilla, CORG, green sapote
maybe a large phalsa ?
other ideas for cold tolerant fruits ?

anyone know where i can get these shipped to New Orleans ?
or...
can work with a local nursery ?

thanks
Bad
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so i had posted the other day about this
is was the day after
you cant really see the damage.
some leaves look perfectly fine 8hrs after a frost
4 days later, its another story.

i had just put in ground a Canistel from Top Tropicals
it was realy healthy looking too...

The Inga will loose all its leaves.
hoping it will come back ?






Abiu (left) Indian Jujube (Right) / Longan (foreground)



Achiote / Annatto   //   Black Sapote



canalevia


Cherimoya



Dragonfruit


Eggfruit  //  //  Eugenia Florida  x2


Feijoa  //  guava seedlings (undamaged ? !*%$#!)
 

Guava...  //  guava small-red fruit // guava small-leafed
 

(no ID ? Maybe West Indian Elm?)


Imbe


Inga / Ice Cream Bean





Jabo (large)



Jabo (small) (hybrid + Red)




Jackfruit


Jambul



Katuk



Litchi Tomato


Lychee


Lychee



Mamey  //  //    Mango



Mango


Guava Mexican Cream



Nanners



Naranjilla

 
Natal Plum


Natal Plum




Papaya


papaya




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