Luc
that might have been me.
i was looking for seeds a year or 2 ago (i still am)
tradewinds was out, still is
id rather get them from you anyway,
 i would have more confidence in fresh seeds and good tasting fruit.

leaves look a bit like strawberry guava...

Sartre Guava
Calyptropsidium sartorianum   Sartre Guava, Arrayan
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/sartre-guava.htm

i am curious as to what are in the stores now then ??
i usually go to one of 3 Latin markets
but, Wall Mart is also carrying them now (whatever they are)

Last year i think it was Kent that was really good
or, maybe it was year before last ?
i couldnt stop eating them.

This year, whatever is in stores now is pretty decent
ive gotten them from 2 latin stores, and an Indian store.
some were from Mexico
i cant remember where the others were from
but, i think Ecuador ? or maybe Guatamala ?
The last ones were not that large, last month they were huge.
I am in New Orleans, so i am not that good at identifying the variety.
Ive been thinking Kent, but these last ones seem awful small for Kent ?
about the size of a smaller Tommy, but taste much better.

pruning definately should help another crop. start.

I got several cuttings from someone in Fla for an ever-bearing
and i also bought a "dwarf ever-bearing" which i think were the same plant.

they grow easily from cuttings, and , while the first crop is fairly good
(still kinda small, but nice flavor and acid/sweet balance)
i get sparse few berries, and often very small and shriveled...
basically bird food.

The wild red i have is much better.
i got a Pakistani thats now 12ft tall and growing fast
i am hoping the fruit is good, and doesnt fruit at the exact same time as my red.

i also got a Morus Nigra mail ordered a few months ago.
it was only 2ft tall, but had 2ft of root.
i was under the impression they were much slower growing, but, its been taking off.
These are supposed to fruit at the end of summer i think.
probably wont know till next summer/fall.

a trick ive been using is to plant nitrogen fixing plants
underneath, or at the base of my young trees.
ive been using a bean that grow really fast here.
also using Senna Obtusifolia.
It might not help it crop a lot, but it will help growth.

I have a seedling growth tree that gave me 1 very tasty fruit.
i cant be sure of the parentage. i was told it was Florigon
but, when i posted it here last year, someone told me it didnt look like Florigon.

I can say, the fruit was good.
Not overly complex, and the flesh to seed ratio wasnt the best
but, it wasnt a bad tasting mango.
I dont think it was over 3 yrs from seed to fruit if i remember right.

Sadly, this Jan we had 1 night of a hard freeze
and it died back to almost the roots.
it is slowly growing back.
One problem i am having, is the limbs extend and bend under thier own weight
2 of them now are laying on the ground


Last year before the frost...

its called mango.

i think with the fruit completely off the husk, the fibers can look like that.

that root looks to be wrapping itself around the seed.
if planted in ground, they know which way is up...
in a baggie, getting moved around, the roots dont know which way to grow.
Not saying its necessarily a problem
but, i would put it in a container shortly.

ivre found they appreciate deep loose soil
mine are in a raised bed so i can harvest easy.
if its raised too high, it can dry out, and turmeric/ginger all like moisture.
i use cardboard or newpaper with woody mulch on top to stop the grass and weeds
and keep in moisture.

there is a white turmeric that is medicinal as well
i dont think its as strong, but i heard it has a mango flavor.

i tried growing black galingal but i think it rotted.

Turmeric is one of the more powerful herbs ive seen
i try to take some every couple of days
(aloe vera is another powerful i take a few times a week)
if you look at the NIH (Nat institute of Health) database, theres tons of info on Turmeric
(also aloe and lots of othe herbs)
but turmeric has had a ton of research already done.

there are lots of articles sying GMO can be harmful
truth is we need long term studies
and its not just what GMO does directly
its also what indirect consequences.

We may just create some superbug that eats everything, reproduces en-masse
and is almost impossible to kill.
http://americannutritionassociation.org/newsletter/gmo-warnings

THE CREATION OF SUPERBUGS AND SUPERWEEDS
http://www.gmoinside.org/another-strike-gmos-creation-superbugs-superweeds/


I would agree with the OP.
The main problem is no regulations on large companies.
and if they do something wrong, they might get a small fine.

But even when used responsibly, like with papaya in Hawaii
Yes, it can be argued it helped save an industry while resistant varieties were developed
but, now its everywhere, even though they tried to control it.

and whats the future path ?
large scale monocultures are already destroying soils and making water toxic
giving us substandard food with no minerals.
1 pest can come in and multiply by the millions, seeing thousands of acres of food.

We need a better answer.
Permaculture, small scale farming,  buying food at farmers markets
and growing a percent of your own should be part of the answer.
less chemicals,  less water use less toxins, healthier food.

yeah theres a lot of politics in GMO
its coming from large corps that feel threatened.
and they have the $ to fight back
so excuse me if i dont cry for them.

ive ordered 3 times from TT, and very happy with all 3 orders
healthy plants, well packaged/shipped. a little expensive
but you get what you pay for. the plants always seemed a bit larger than others.

also happy with Pine Island nursery

and very pleased with Flying Fox Fruits (owner is member is here)
http://www.flyingfoxfruits.com/

as fpr Papaya.
you wont (or shouldnt) find GMO seeds or plants even if you would want them.
They are not supposed to leave Hawaii.
my understanding anyway.
The only place ive ever seen seeds for sale is University of Hawaii seed program
and you have to take a class and live in Hi. to get them.

incidentally, they have excellent varieties of papaya and some other plants too.
many are bred disease resistant, and for productivity.
the peppers are awesome !
 (Waialua  and chili - chili are similar to Tabasco pepper)
grape tomato too.
 and if youve never eaten/grown Jicama (Yam bean) you should try it.

and $1 for a pack of seeds... cant beat it...

i get the Waimanalo Papaya (X-77)
excellent low bearing plant (dwarf-ish) - great taste
but mine were not that productive. not sure why.
other seeds have been excellent in many aspects.

https://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/seed/seeds.asp

I am in New Orleans
This January, we had 1 night that was the coldest ive seen in about 10yrs.
it hit 27F... AND it had rained for days prior.

the rain had soaked everything in pots
and the pots froze killing the roots.

i lost 7 mango (1 to 3yrs) in pots. 1 survived.
3 in ground survived, even a small seedling.
but, had to come back from the roots.

same with several other. came back from the roots
or, low on the trunk.
Jackfruit, black sapote, Jamun/Java plum, cherimoya

lost Neem (3g container)
lost Abiu.
White sapote almost uneffected.
starfruit, lost leaves
Jujube, uneffected
Mamey 10gal lost

sometimes we go a couple  of years with no frost
sometimes we get a night or 2 down to 30F and it warms early in the AM
( in Those i havent really lost anything significant)

every few years we get 1 night of a hard freeze
it really depends on how long those temps last, and if it warms quickly in the AM or not
Most of my plant selection now, revolves around that one day.

Shawn
if your in zone 9b i think you should get fruit.
my first one died. still not sure why, it was 12ft and seemed very healthy at the time.
but the 2nd yr it produced a handful,  and 3rd year it produced a lot of fruit.

i liked them so much i now have 5 chinese, and 2 Indian seedlings.

the Li is 8ft in its 2nd yr, and is producing a good bit. its first year didnt produce
but, it hadnt been in ground long.
the others are a little smaller, but are flowering.

i think it might have to do with rainfall/moisture, as well as size
and i am still up in the air whether having a cold winter, or "chill hours"
has anything to do with production.
So far, i havent had a tree over 4yrs old, and its possible also that
it needs to be a certain age before it fruits consistently.

they also can flower in spurts all summer.
the first set of my Li only made 1 fruit this year
but, now i have a couple of dozen small ones holding on so far.
The Coco flowered twice also, but i still dont see any fruit yet
sometimes the end of summer is more productive.

any ideas ??






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leaves look a little like muntingia, but, its not.

there is more on the page
but, i would assume the seeds would look very very close to White Sapote.

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Several taxonomic and biological questions are associated with the Matasano (one of the common names applied to Casimiroa spp. in Mexico and Central America).  The first problem is with the scientific name:  our Manual treatment originally used the name C. edulis La Llave & Lex., with C. tetrameria Millsp.—the name used by Standley for Costa Rican plants in his Flora of Costa Rica—as a synonym.  No mention was made of C. sapota, which, according to the Flora de Nicaragua, occurs in Nicaragua and in Costa Rica, and is distinct from the Mexican C. edulis.  In this respect, Flora de Nicaragua follows the work of M. Martínez (Las Casimiroas de México y Centroamérica.  Anales Inst. Biol. Univ. Nac. México, Bot. 22: 25–81.  1951).  According to Martínez, C. tetramería is endemic to the region of Yucatán, Mexico, and only C. sapota has been collected in Costa Rica.  The purported difference between C. edulis and C. sapota is the longer and thinner petioluoles of the former, even though Martínez gives no measurements for thickness and, over all forms and varieties, any difference in the stated length of petioluoles is nil.  Nevertheless, the type of C. edulis is from Mexico and that of C. sapota is from Nicaragua, and based just on type images, the Costa Rican material does resemble more closely C. sapota.  To finish this already too-long story:  without a more thorough revision of the genus, we can do no better than follow Martínez and the Flora de Nicaragua in using the name C. sapota for the Costa Rican material.

http://www.mobot.org/MOBOT/research/Edge/apr10/apr10pick.shtml

i left mine out in the hot sun
and in a mostly sandy mix that dried out more than once.
2 of 4 germinated and are growing nicely now.
(ive added compost and vermiculite)
i did water them with a mix of worm tea and fish emulsion.

and , if i remember right, i scarred the seedcoat
but, did not soak them, or do any other treatment.

here is a paper on germinating them.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijfr/2015/634108/