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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 19, 2017, 04:11:31 PM »
First American Beauty of the year, I don't have my refractometer on me but the flavor is good. These early fruit are not too sweet yet but they have a good balance of flavor. First fruit to ripen were my Sugar Dragons and they are really small. This year, I have a very light crop on all my vines, probably because they are getting old and I haven't been pruning and renewing the limbs like I should be doing.


Thanks Simon, I do have another variety right next to the dragon fruit that is flowering, unfortunately that other variety has not flowered yet :'(

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:51:25 PM »
Hi, I have a dragon fruit of unknown variety that has flowered in past years but never fruited. It is flowering nicely again this year as photos below indicate.  I have no experience with this fruit and am wondering if there is something I should be doing to promote fruiting?  I was unsuccessful using search option trying to find info relating to my problem.  Thanks ahead for any info or help relating to this.

very interesting point about the desired lack of nitrogen and also the desired lighter green leaves and it's positive effects on the brix index.

I noticed that.  Here's my take on NPK ratios or at least what I practice.  Too many pros have stated that mangos don't like much if any N.  I feel that applies to 2 yr. or older fruiting trees, an age at which Campbell tries to fruit his new mango transplants.   So, I hit them with N when juveniles to build a canopy but am adjusting the NPK to a low N,  high P food, or giving them potassium sulfate exclusively.

Fascinating too that he and his son are digging out a hole in coral/limestone and planting in the hole chiseled out.

sound like a logical strategy.  Other than the weather, does not seem like the most ideal location to put in tree orchard.  Chiseling the holes out with hand tools to boot. Wondering when they will get rid of the jeep in the background as a way of demonstrating the anti-machine/technology statement. lol

very interesting point about the desired lack of nitrogen and also the desired lighter green leaves and it's positive effects on the brix index.

Between my brothers property and mine(we are neighbors) we have trapped and removed over 40+ squirrel, more than a dozen raccoons and a dozen possums. We probably removed at least this many last year also. But the odor of the ripening mangoes is causing them to ignore the bait in the traps and just go after the mangoes at this point.  Trying to use an air gun takes to much time and they almost have a sixth sense of when they are being hunted and become very sparse.  As quick as we remove them, it appears other squirrels from other territories move into the vacancy and I am sure the odor of over 100 mango trees with ripening fruits is like a flame to a moth. They probably smell the fruit several miles out.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: four tree ID (mangoes)?
« on: July 13, 2017, 03:39:09 AM »
they were 7 and 15 gallon pots that I transferred later and this is the first year they have held fruit.  I don't remember which ones were 7 or 15 gallon as I had dozens of trees in pots at that time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: four tree ID (mangoes)?
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:07:52 PM »
Tree's are about 4 yrs old, the first tree/picture is the only one not labelled correctly as a carrie, the others had lost their labels so truly unknown.

This collusion conspiracy may have more "teeth" than the Trump/Russian collusion conspiracy.  Squirrels, who are creatures of nature, with great smelling senses should be able to determine what is a ripe mango.  But contrary to that logic they raid my tree's pulling down unripe mangoes, take a little bite and move on to the next unripe mango.  They might find one ripe mango after five or six attempts on the unripe ones.  If I leave them on the ground, the night crew(raccoons) come in and polish off the unripe mangoes left by the squirrels.  This is definitely nature working together, aka colluding! My evidence in the picture below.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / four tree ID (mangoes)?
« on: July 11, 2017, 06:42:55 PM »
I have four separate mango trees that were either mislabeled or not labeled and this is the first year bearing fruit.  I would appreciated any help trying to ID the trees.  I have a picture of the tree and the fruit that is on it in the picture below the mango tree picture. Thanks in advance!

first tree

second tree

third tree

fourth tree

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wildlife in your fruit trees ?
« on: June 28, 2017, 10:55:41 AM »

Thank God these guys don't climb trees!

I don't know how a glenn would do in your area, but as a early producer I enjoy the fresh clean taste of the glenn as one of the first mango's that ripens, that breaks the winter mango drought.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Losing mangos by the bushel
« on: May 25, 2017, 12:45:24 PM »

I feel your pain! :'(

Not worth it. Others have spoken about the legal issues. Maintenance will be a huge time suck. If the lot were next door to your home, then fine. But driving to central FL every week during the summer is going to be Fun-Not. Also consider that growing in central FL will be an uphill battle:

 - You will need to either amend the soil or fertigate
 - You will need to install and maintain an irrigation system. Without electricity, it could get interesting.
 - You will need to spray fungicide on at least a bi-weekly schedule for months at a time
 - You will need a frost protection plan and may need to camp out there a few times of year during periods of potential frost, ready to turn on frost protection sprinklers.

Notwithstanding the above, when the trees are older, you will have the joyous task of spending months pruning trees -- during the hottest part of summer in the most humid part of the state.

And if you want good crops, factor in spending thousands of dollars per year in fertilizer / pesticides.

Oh, and you will probably need to purchase a truck. Not easy transporting trees, fertilizer, equipment, etc in a car.

It would be far easier and cheaper to drive to the mango dealers up in palm beach county once each week during mango season.
dang it! I did not realize where I live sucks so bad. I'm outta here!

Hi Alex, can you verify the date for the Orlando talk.  Monday of that week is the 22nd while Thursday is the 25th.  You have posted Monday the 25th.  Is it Monday or Thursday (or 22nd or the 25th)  Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Forum
« on: April 22, 2017, 10:42:20 PM »
Funny, I thought this was going to be a proposal to create a separate Mango Forum, since this forum is somewhat overwhelmed with Florida mango talk. :)

Don't be a hater! lol  ;)

Does the Haden's heritage come from the Mulgoba?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit protection bags
« on: December 25, 2016, 08:54:45 PM »
They work for a while then they don't.  They figure out that it doesn't hurt them eventually and then they just ignore the water spray as they take sample bites from several mangoes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet tart growth habit
« on: December 22, 2016, 07:42:34 PM »
Well, if it's that high up on your list I guess I'll have to at least figure out where to get some to try or maybe a big one that will fruit in the pot.  I'm pretty much out of yard space. My wife informed me that I have 21 mango trees and still haven't even planted them all yet. It's impossible to find some of the new cultivators in Brevard/ Merritt island that are in the ground bearing fruit.

Visit the local Brevard Tropical Fruit club.  They have multiple sampling of many varieties of mangoes  at their monthly meetings and there are plenty of home growers in Brevard with many of the new cultivars that are at least 4 to 5 years old and producing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone recognize this mango?
« on: December 22, 2016, 04:32:19 PM »
I was thinking that but, they guy had keitts and springfels for sell and said it was something he had never seen before. I put it in the ground and still have my fingers crossed.

The springfels are definitely big like the mangoes in picture, but not enough detail in the picture to tell much else.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit protection bags
« on: December 22, 2016, 11:11:48 AM »
Unfortunately, I can attest that the organza bags do not deter squirrels.  We tried some last year with this hope, only to find they chew right thru them and then on to the mango.

Their use is not for rodents or birds but to keep out the insects.   Unfortunately,  gotta sometimes sacrifice some fruit to the furried and feathered creatures.

I have not had any problems with "the feathered creatures" but squirrels, racoons, possums, and even gopher turtles will eat the fallen fruit. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit protection bags
« on: December 21, 2016, 03:44:03 PM »
Unfortunately, I can attest that the organza bags do not deter squirrels.  We tried some last year with this hope, only to find they chew right thru them and then on to the mango. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wind Danger to Coconut Cream Mango
« on: December 19, 2016, 12:49:17 PM »
I don't know if this is a unique trait of the coconut cream mango, but I know of three separate instances of where the coconut cream mango tree snapped at the trunk during the last hurricane. Winds were at the max 80 mph and in all cases these trees were in yards with lots of other assorted mango varieties that suffered no damage.  I know that the foliage is very convoluted in it's shape and I wonder if this creates more surface area for the winds to use to snap the trees?  Of course there could be other factors I am not aware of that might be the culprit, but it seems to much of a coincidence that just within my small circle of contacts that this is uniquely happening to only the coconut cream mango trees.       

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel battle
« on: June 11, 2016, 10:05:15 AM »
I, like you, was determined not lose my mangos this year to the squirrels.  last year I went with the pellet gun with mixed success(you can't be out there every second they are). This year I got the catch and release traps from tractor supply(don't waste your money with the ones from harbour freight).  Now after 1week and 29 squirrels later I think I am squirrel free and the local park has a bigger squirrel attraction for the people who love to feed squirrels!

green jungle nursery (east orlando)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Blooms?
« on: January 11, 2016, 08:46:26 PM »
I have blooms on Rosigold, Edward, Sunset, Glenn and Dot.  Don't know how many will hold but got my fingers crossed.  This is only five mango trees out of about 65 mango trees, so not great prospects so far. 

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