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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 12, 2015, 08:45:23 AM »
Edgar - Mango Review

My first reaction to tasting this Edgar (Edward x Gary) from Walter Zill's in Boynton Beach, FL, was the same as Borat's: "Wowwah weeeewah! Very nice, I like." I cut it when it was still fairly firm. It has the sweetness of a popsicle, the smoothness of an Edward, its creamy as a Candy Corn, and there's a laid back tropical flavor mystique that is delightful. Eating close to the skin there is a beautiful, subdued resinous finish. I would rate this mango as "Excellent" and say that it is truly delicious and high grade. It did not blow my mind in the way in the way I associate with an outstanding mango, but this one is close.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 10, 2015, 04:40:24 PM »
An unripe Honey Kiss




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 10, 2015, 01:31:09 PM »
Just got back from Walter Zill's in Boynton and I ate a ripe Honey Kiss drop with my lunch. It was smaller than a fist and what I consider the ideal size for one person. This mango is juicy, it has nice melts-in-your-mouth flesh texture with no fiber I recall. It tastes sweet and mellow, like a honeydew melon and beneath the skin has just a hint of the Lemon Zest / Orange Sherbet flavors.  Very smooth taste  - I did not encounter one funky, tart, resiny, stringy, spicy, or bitter aspect in it. I would rate it as "excellent" and put it in the mild & sweet corner of the tasting table.

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One option for an inexpensive meet up or hangout place is Everglades Hostel - http://www.evergladeshostel.com/ - in the heart of tropical fruit country... very close to Robert is Here and Fruit & Spice park in Florida City, Miami-Dade. It's a rustic place with shady native landscaping and fruit trees and a hippie / backpacker vibe. Community kitchen.  Picnic tables, grills, hammocks, swimming pool with waterfall, treehouse, fire pit.  Camping is $18 (not recommended in summer, it's muggy), A/C dorm beds are $28 per night and private rooms and suites for more.  They are pretty laid back and accommodating towards informal groups just showing up and hanging out, cooking out, cutting up fruit, drinking beer, etc...  as long as the people are staying there as guests.

If you wanted to do a more formal production with workshops and ticket sales, etc,... I have seen them do weekend yoga workshops, raw food events, plant talks before... but it requires coordination or payment I think.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mahachanok in TX
« on: July 07, 2015, 05:38:50 PM »
Mangobaby,

How many fruits did made it to maturity in total?

Any pics of the tree?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mahachanok in TX
« on: July 07, 2015, 01:20:02 PM »
Look good...

Tell us how they taste and smell!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 06, 2015, 04:23:00 PM »
SunWorshipper,

If you love both Edward and Kent, I would guess you'd like Honey Kiss. It's not hard to believe its a seedling of Kent - there are similarities. It sits on the milder end of mango flavor wheel: sweet, sunny, mellow, vaguely "tropical." It's difficult for me to say which is the best tasting out of Edward, Kent and Honey Kiss... they're all good ones... but I'd probably take Honey Kiss.

It's got a very "agreeable" character of flavor that I could imagine being likable to most and objectionable to very few.

That being said, I have never heard anyone say its their favorite mango or go insane over it.

Now Maha Chanok, on the other hand...  :)  :D  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Considering replacing Angie mango
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:19:56 PM »
I can only comment on flavor, not tree or growth habits -

Maha Chanok is the king of all mangos in my book - a marvel of nature. 'Forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden' kinda level.  It has a complex and incredibly suave balance of sweet and tart flavors - but it has a subtle spice element (that some of us associate with 'cola syrup').  It's not like a heavy turpentine resinous taste - its subtle. Some reviewers don't mention or notice this taste when describing it.

Venus has a lovely flavor - really delicious -  but it also has the same subtle spice element found in Maha Chanok.

Honey Kiss has a mellow & sweet flavor. I don't find the flavor to be that "interesting" but it is very "good."  Honey Kiss might be my selection if I were trying to pick a mango to sell nationwide at Whole Foods - an ideal and agreeable flavor for the discerning Caucasian American fruit shopper. If your favorite mango is Edward, you might like Honey Kiss.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: July 02, 2015, 03:05:33 PM »
People discussing the flavor of popular mango on a tropical fruit discussion forum!@ What is this world coming to?  :-X  ;)

Secretly, I'm kind of glad we can't easily grow durian and mangosteens here in FL. If we did, I would be at risk for full blown insanity.


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Kent can be pretty good late in the season.

Haven't had any this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 01, 2015, 03:42:26 PM »
Got pics of Tiamour? Any review or more info about the fruit / tree would be interesting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 01, 2015, 09:51:48 AM »
ST Maui  - Mango Review

This meaty mango from Tropical Acres in WPB looks kind of like a Fruit Punch.  It has a complex, fruity-resinous flavor profile that I'd place in the Caribbean (e.g., Julie/Graham/Bombay) corner of the tasting table. When cut open, the inside appeared marbled and smelled a bit "tart."  Each time I took a bite, I noticed something different. The first taste was peach plus the sour twang of a pineapple. Next was pomegranate juice.  Then syrupy sweet berry flavors.  A distinctive resin flavor with the bite of allspice.  I regard this is an "excellent" tasting mango with very appealing flavors that complement each other well. I could imagine it ranking in the Top 3 or Top 5 at a good mango tasting.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 30, 2015, 02:18:30 PM »
Joe,

Beautiful pics, nice review! If your tree put out 12 fruits at that size, I'm hopeful I'll have a crop that size or even larger next year :) When mine fruited this year it was still sort of a Y-shaped "mango stick" but it has since flushed and turned into a little tree.

p.s. My nose could pick up the Maha scent from about 2 feet away on my desk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: June 30, 2015, 01:50:27 PM »
Coca Cola volatiles include  eugenol, coumarin, linalool 1,8-cineole,  and others.

Some of these components are shared in some mango varieties.

I have had an interest for some time, in what components make one variety taste like it has coconut, peach,  lemon etc.    also what makes one variety more susceptible to fruit flies and another more resistant.

what has surprised me, is how much difference there is between mango varieties,  its amazing.

If anyone is interested in looking into this,  here is the best reference I have found online:  explains each of the components in mango, and what the aroma / flavor is:
http://ietd.inflibnet.ac.in/bitstream/10603/2445/10/10_chapter3.pdf

Components of Maha and Nam Doc Mai,   sadly the lactones are not listed here,   which I suspect MC is high in.
http://www.ifrj.upm.edu.my/19%20%2804%29%202012/22%20IFRJ%2019%20%2804%29%202012%20Laohaprasit%20%28024%29.pdf


Tropicdude,

Thanks for the fascinating information! Scientific, biochemically based "mango reviews" - no wine tasting b.s., just good old fashioned Likens-Nickerson
Simultaneous distillation-extraction (LNSDE) and Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS) data ;)

The ZINC-family and the Maha Chanok must both contain similar volatile compounds. And the Maha may have a different aroma compound in addition to the classics.

I also was fascinated to read in the second link Keow Savoy mango is eaten with with fish sauce.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thank God for the rain!
« on: June 30, 2015, 11:58:39 AM »
Plenty of rain in Lake Worth - avocado tree looks happy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: June 30, 2015, 11:05:05 AM »
I noticed that the very top of my mango - the area all around the stem, was especially concentrated with the spicy ("cola") flavor. I called it "the bottle cap."

The very bottom tip of the Maha Chanok I had was bitter and unpleasant.

Is this a characteristic of the fruits, or was that just a fluke of one particular mango?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 30, 2015, 10:46:30 AM »
Pineapple Pleasure
 Not as pungent as Fruit Punch but highly enjoyable to consume non the less without killing one's appetite.


I agree about the Fruit Punch being extremely sweet and large. I enjoyed the taste so much I devoured 3/4 of the fruit in a single shot before dinner, and it left me with little appetite and sugar hangover.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 30, 2015, 10:42:54 AM »
Ate a couple of Coconut Creams yesterday.  HOLY MOLY!! What a great tasting mango!  Distinct coconut taste, very juicy!  Very impressed.  My top two as of now are Sweet Tart and Coconut Cream

I know, right.  You could put together a decent starting 5 with Zills lineup:

Sweet Tart
Coconut Cream
Fruit Punch
Pineapple Pleasure
Lemon Zest

As awesomely delicious as those mangos are, I would feel a bit disappointed if I'd have planted one of them in my sole mango spot instead of Maha Chanok. I feel the MC has just a slightly more complex, more "elegant" flavor... plus better looks and aroma.  I can't wait to share with friends and neighbors - next year hopefully.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 25, 2015, 11:29:59 AM »
hhahahahahahahaahahahaha  ;D

Check out the "Greatest Father" at the far left of TropicalFruitForum.com's banner logo.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:42:15 AM »
Maha Chanok - Mango Review



Two years ago I bought a Maha Chanok tree from Excalibur Fruit Trees in Lake Worth, FL, and planted it. Yesterday I finally got to taste one. It's a beautiful fruit: phallic and curvy, yellow with the rosy blush of a chinook salmon, sparsely dotted with little black speckles ringed in hot neon pink. It has a pungent, intoxicating scent... like smelling a ripe Edward mango held by a sweaty man wearing cologne which mostly covers up his body odor.  When cut, the inside smelled "tart" and berry-like.

As for the flavor, it's very hard to describe. But l'll try:

There's a measured sweetness with a subacidic undertone like homemade cranberry sauce. The secondary layer of flavors is suave... sort of mellow like a Valencia Pride, smooth like a cantaloupe, and sunny like a tangelo. Some Nam Doc Mai-like honey taste. Classical mango flavors were present throughout and especially noticed near the thin seed. Underneath the skin is cola syrup -- subtle cinnamon-vanilla notes which give it a delicately spicy finish. The cola flavor was especially concentrated throughout the upper half inch of the mango, just below the stem ;D.   No resin taste.

Eating the second half, which I let ripen for several hours more, the flesh was softer. There was intense sweetness and a rich, creamy classical mango flavor. The tartness and subtle flavors were less noticeable.

Because of its sexy looks & remarkable scent, the uniqueness of the flavor profile, and the overall taste quality... my first impression of Maha Chanok is it that of an "outstanding" top tier mango. It's probably the best mango I have ever tasted.

I'd like to thank Harry Hausman and Richard Wilson who championed this mango and inspired me to plant it. These guys did extensive research and made a killer selection. I can now survive and even look forward to these muggy South Florida summers, so as long as the Maha Chanok tree blooms in my backyard. If the fruit gets better as the tree matures, I will be even happier than I am now.    :) :D ;D

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Schnebley's Winery is also interesting, they make wine out of local grown tropical fruit and you can sample.

If you're looking for a place to stay with a rustic backpacker vibe and native landscaping... Everglades Hostel is near Fruit and Spice and all the above.

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Robert is Here is the name of a pricey but well stocked tropical fruit stand about 7 miles from Fruit and Spice park. Worth a stop.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is graham mango good?
« on: June 24, 2015, 10:07:39 PM »
I think it's a good, flavorful mango

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 1st maha off my tree
« on: June 24, 2015, 02:14:35 PM »
Woah... the first fruit off my Maha Chanok tree was delicious  :) :D  ;D 

Just shared some with Ray, the maintenance man at our office. I asked if he thought it was any good. His exact words in between bites were:

"Wow that's different... But Good... like Candy... Best I ever had."


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: June 23, 2015, 03:02:08 PM »
What do you classify a Carrie?

I believe Carrie is, spiritually, a Florida mango, regardless of where the parent comes from.

I recently met an Indian guy named Deepak. He said that "all Indian people in Florida love Carrie because it tastes like Alphonso." they classify it as Indian :)

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