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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this anonas seedlings please
« on: April 22, 2015, 12:21:30 AM »
The leaves look like that of Annona edulis.
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On my quest for fruiting Mex. Garcinias I found this on the ground in the jungle today , for sure an Annona , probably reticulata but the fruit is totally smooth . Totally smashed but was fresh , great flavor reminding me of this Vino Tinto Raul and me discovered years ago .
As the fruit is just smashed, and not eaten by any animal, you can find the mother tree by just looking upward from the ground where you have found the fruit.
I am not that stupid , what are you trying to tell me , I am sure it is an Annona ( Mexico is Annona country ) I am just asking for an opinion from other experts in the group ( people more qualified than I am ) about this smooth skinned fruit .....
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On my quest for fruiting Mex. Garcinias I found this on the ground in the jungle today , for sure an Annona , probably reticulata but the fruit is totally smooth . Totally smashed but was fresh , great flavor reminding me of this Vino Tinto Raul and me discovered years ago .
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QuoteSeeds edible?
Monkeys are fond of the seeds. So, I think the seeds will be edible roasted/ boiled.
6. Cullenia exarillata Robyns. (Fig-104,106).
Staminal tubes are eaten. Seeds are roasted and eaten.
To all who requested seeds , due to heavy rains during the flowering period I am afraid there will be no fruits this year , this has never happened before . 3 days of constant rain in a season where normally it doesn't rain . All the flowers dropped ....Oh! I am waiting for these seeds since last May
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If you place almost ripen but a little astringent Diospyros fruits to refrigerator (1-4 Celsius),Actually, I am yet to grow a Persimmon tree as I live in the tropics.
after one day astringency will disappear.
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+1 on the smell… I found a fruit in Foster Gardens in Honolulu once, and cleaned out some seeds on the spot.. It took three days and dozens of hand washings to get the smell out of my skin.Same thing happened for me also.
D. kaki grafting on D. malabarica (or other tropical Diospyros spp) is interesting research idea.If the D. malabarica seeds germinate and if I am fortunate to get some D. kaki cuttings in good condition, I will try grafting.
Of course not 100% but some chance there is.
Main issue is:
what part of plant come to dormancy at first, root system or branches?
If variant 1 is coreect, we have the chance.
Also interesting to hybridizate/crosspolinate tropical and subtropical Diospyros spp.
Tropical Diospyros spp are often deprived of attention because its fruit astringency and small size.
Both problem can be resolved by domestication, breeding and polyploidization
if you have 15-20 years...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+diospyros+malabarica&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_5FwgtVbpJDo%2FS8WdtB_XA4I%2FAAAAAAAAG_I%2FkviJt-JPdFc%2Fs1600%2FP4140900.JPGThank you Oscar, for confirming the identity of the species
I have one more query:
Is it possible to graft Diospyros kaki on D. malabarica rootstock, so that the former can be grown in the tropics? And will it flower without chill hours?
I don't know if those 2 species are graft compatible. Don't think using certain rootstock is going to change number of chill hours necessary for fruiting.
Ok, thank you for the information.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+diospyros+malabarica&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F_5FwgtVbpJDo%2FS8WdtB_XA4I%2FAAAAAAAAG_I%2FkviJt-JPdFc%2Fs1600%2FP4140900.JPGThank you Oscar, for confirming the identity of the species
.ya thats not black sapote, was the fruit good?Cut fruit had a nice, mild aroma somewhat similar to that of a Velvet apple.
The seeds arrived in great condition being nicely packaged as well. Thank you.Thank you for the acknowledgment
If no flesh, and flowers are edible, what do they pick the fruit for?They collected the fruits for me!
I read that seedlings can be used as rootstock for common Durian.Seeds edible?Monkeys are fond of the seeds. So, I think the seeds will be edible roasted/ boiled.
Did it smell as pungent as fleshy Durian?No smell at all!
Vipin, we never even come close to 38 C in wet part of SLDear Rytis,
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In Kerala, we use Coconut leaves for shading young plants.
An additional benefit of using Coconut leaves is that this method helps in simplified hardening of younger plants as the leaves gradually degrade.
These are very good methods when you don't have access to wire and shade cloth and you have a lot of willing hands to help you. But when you are farming or gardening by yourself it's very difficult to maintain. A wire cage in our climate will last very many years, and can be reused for other plants as necessary. The coconut fronds break down very rapidly in our rainy hot climate and need to be maintained and replaced often.
Dear Oscar,
I am gardening by myself, no other hands for helping, and use this method for guarding seedlings from the harsh summer sun, 38oC ( 100oF), till monsoon.
When the monsoon arrives, I remove these shades. By the next summer, the seedlings will be hardened enough to survive harsh environments
How many hectares are you maintaining? How many other jobs do you do besides farming?
Our climate is very different: monsoon all year long. So you can imagine how fast those coconut fronds would break down?
