Vipinrl - We have a saying in the US, I don't know if you have ever heard it but it seems to apply perfectly here:
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"

Quote from: vipinrl on June 17, 2015, 12:36:08 AM

2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)

Sorry friend; but, I didn't understand what you mean  !

Check this thread, see if it looks right:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0

John

Yes, it is definitely a fruit from the Wild Durian (Cullenia excelsa/ Cullenia exarillata/ Durio ceylanicus/ Durio exarillatus) tree, locally known as Vediplav (translated as 'split opening Jackfruit tree'). As the local name suggests, husk of the fruits split open when they are ripe (still on the tree) and the seeds fall to ground.

After doing some research, I came into the conclusion that there are 2 kinds of (varities/ species?) Wild Durians found in the Western Ghat jungles of Kerala:
1) Towards South Kerala, the fruits are relatively larger with green outer husk turning to light brown to brown when it is dry. The seeds also are larger without any flesh/ membrane surrounding them. Trees have a spreading growth habit.
  (Discussed in the post http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=13891.0)
2) In North Kerala, the fruits are smaller with orange outer husk turning to golden brown/ copper color when it is dry. The smaller seeds are surrounded by a thin brown-translucent membrane.  Trees grow very tall with an open canopy.
  (Picture shown at the beginning of this topic)

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I got 100% germination on seeds.
Minimum 3 months for germination!

Germinating seed:


Seedlings:

Quote from: vipinrl on May 13, 2015, 01:17:15 AM

Thank you all for the replies.

So, to conclude:
Matured scions remain matured through out the grafted generations irrespective of the age of (intermediate)seedlings.
And for grafted trees to hold fruit, they should have a minimum required vigor.
I am right?

One more question:
If I graft scion from a young tree to a already fruiting tree, will the growth from the scion flower/ hold fruit in the next season?
Or will it take as much time required for a seedling to flower?

First part, yes you are right. Second part, grafting young seedling wood to mature tree will impart same age to the young scion wood. So it will fruit faster and hold the fruit. Luther Burbank used this technique for breeding work, grafting young seedling wood to mature trees. That way he could speed up fruiting and do faster and more selections for desirable traits. But this may not work on all fruits, or it may work better on certain types of fruits.

Oh! great information (atleast for me )!.
I have 3 Mallika Mango seeds germinating and I can't wait 5 - 7 years to see if they are worth growing.
It is not that difficult to get grafted Mango trees; but, I would prefer to grow my own 'selection'.

Ok Oscar, thanks for the info  .

hehe, Very interesting: I had never thought ... just for fun, I venture to say that if you take a branch of the grafted plant, grown, and graft in any other, it will take the same time to bear fruit. If it took five years in the grafted for the first time, it will take five years in the second grafted too. (just guessing, lets wait for the masters...)

Yes, I know it will take only 5 years, if the scion is taken from already matured (flowered) 5+year old grafted plant.
But, here the grafted plant is not yet 'matured', it is only 3 years old.

Quote from: micah on May 10, 2015, 11:08:50 AM

I have another question
So...which artocarpus sp can handle going into full sun while still young 1-2ft tall.?

I'm guessing that would be only jackfruit. As others pointed out it originates in harsher climate of India, whereas most other artocarpus starting life as understory tree in rainforests of SE Asia .

Wild jackfruit trees can handle full sun and drought better than Jackfruit trees, though the former is from the Western Ghat jungles. Wild jackfruit seeds even germinate in full sun (with very little rain) and grow in most adverse conditions.
From experience, I learned that young Marangs stop growing and young Chempedaks will die in full sun.

is wild jack semi drought tolerant?

Yes.

I am using this kinda grafting for Citrus plants .
But I thought I was doing 'Chip budding'!

I have Miracle fruit plants which have flowered in 18 months. Fertilise with high P:K: soluble Fert, like "GreenCare" every two weeks.

I added some NPK and micronutrients in the hole while planting.
Interesting thing is that my uncle never gave any fertilizer to his plant.
But there are 2 differences:
1. My uncle planted in full sun and I planted in partial shade.
2. Uncle water his plant twice in a day and I water once in a week .

Mr. George (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=838), was kind enough to send me a few dozen Miracle fruit (Synsepalum dulcificum) seeds in October 2013.
The seeds germinated in November 2013. I kept 2 seedlings with me and shared the rest with relatives and friends.
When I visited my uncle's home last week, I found his Miracle fruit plant loaded with tiny flowers! I was excited and checked my plants suddenly after reaching home. But...  !
What I read online is that the Miracle fruit tree will take 3 to 4 years from seed to fruit. Is it normal to flower in 18 months?