Anaxel   In answer to your questions, virtually all of our mango breeding is with mono-embryonic mango varieties.  As you probably know those do not come true to the parent if you plant mango seeds.  Each offspring is unique.  That is how we were able to get the variants we were looking for when it comes to low temperature tolerance.  Our mangoes do not seem to be effected by the higher end of the temperature scale.  I think that is because of their root system and leaf structure.  For example, Avocados have most of their root system in the top 5 feet of the soil they are growing in; Citrus are in the top 6 or 7 feet of the soil and a mature mango tree's roots may reach down to 20 feet.  In Southern California, when the Santa Ana winds start to blow, they are hot and dry.  Those winds will literally dry out a big avocado orchard if the farmers don't turn on their irrigation system so they use about 25 percent more water.  The leaf structure is also another factor when it comes to water consumption and high wind damage.  Of the three, the avocado leaf is the most fragile, citrus next and the mature mango leaf is tough and leathery.  The tougher leaves are the less vulnerable when it comes to wind damage.  When the Santa Ana winds blow strong here they may hit hurricane strength or 70 miles per hour.  The East side of my poor big Haas avocado tree is stripped of its leaves.  My mangoes just laugh at the wind.  After all mangoes evolved where they have hurricanes and typhoons.  I hope that helps you.  I don't know if you have those severe weather conditions in the part of France where you are located.  From what I am told, the French Rivera has a Mediterranean climate which should be more like our climate here in Southern California.

to JF  From my visits to Florida, I know that Cubans are great cooks and even better bartenders.  We would love to have some of your Cuban mango recipes or drinks on the recipe page.  I just noticed we desperately need a good recipe for a mango margarita.  Do you have one?

The old guy

Hello fellow mango lovers.  We have a great red one too.  Our new cold hardy mango, Cal Ruby tastes as good as it looks.  Our development priorities were: 1, being adapted to our So Cal climate; 2, tasting good; and 3, we wanted brightly colored mangoes because everybody likes them.  Some of our mango friends might find it interesting that in Japan for example, the bright red ones are considered to be indicative of prosperity, good fortune, good health and other positive things.  They are selling in Japan for $20.00 or more per fruit and they are often given as gifts. 




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Hello Anaxel,  we have friends in Spain who we will be sending some of our surplus So Cal frost resistant mango budwood to for field trial testing next Summer.  We can stay in touch and maybe we can help you get one of our new mango varieties to try out.  We  want to find out just how much cold they can take.  The coldest it has gotten her is 26 degrees F.   I read that the Mediterranean mango crop is down by 30 to 40 percent below normal because of the cool Spring weather.  Our new mango varieties were bred to live and grow in cool Spring weather because what Southern California has.  Maybe our new mangoes can help out the Mediterranean growers even out their mango crops.  You can visit our website to see some of the new varieties at SoCalplantbreeders.com.  Have a great day.
Tim Thompson

Hello JF,  I am glad that the Timotayo you got was the real thing!  I rated it is a good mango and like the others that I have bred, it had to pass the taste test to qualify for me work on patenting it.  I am only disappointed that I lost control of it before I could bring it into production for others to enjoy too. 

Hello JF, 
I have found the mango book to be helpful not only to identify mango varieties but also as a resource to use when trying to identify varieties that one might want to obtain.  That is why I am supplying budwood to Dr. Campbell as soon as I have patent pending status.  I want him to have our new varieties for his evaluation.  I know the quality of these mangoes and what they will do, but I want Dr. Campbell's expert evaluation of each one.

Hello All,

There is one point that I would like to clear up regarding the Timotayo mango.  About 5 years ago, I provided some Timotayo budwood to the original owner of Laverne Nursery.  It was to be used only for grafting field trial mango trees.  I had selected ranchers who would grow the mango trees and evaluate them for me.   During the sale of the Nursery to new owners, the young Timotayo plants were accidentally released to the public. Since that eliminated my ability to patent the variety and trademark the name, I stopped all work with that variety.  My Timotayo mango fruit had scored well in several blind taste tests early on, but I have no idea what kind of mango trees are being grown or marketed by anyone using that name since I only can speak regarding the original tree.

Many of the people who visited our website have expressed interest in participating in the mango taste tests that we conduct each fall as part of evaluating our new mango varieties.  We knew there would be strong demand for these new cold hardy mango trees, so we cut a great deal of budwood from the mango trees that we are patenting to provide the nursery the material needed for grafting.  We had to decide whether to sacrifice most of our mango crop, or not have enough budwood to deliver trees next year.  The bottom line is our mango crop this year will be too small to put on a decent mango sampling event for the huge number of people we know would like to attend.

Tim Thompson

Hello JF,

I saw your beautiful big mango tree, wow!!  Great pictures!  I am an old guy and new to forums so I am learning the ropes.  Where are you located?  I am also growing mangoes and I am between Santa Barbara and L.A. - a little inland from the coast.

Tim