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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region. (NEW SEEDS AVAILABLE)
« on: June 16, 2014, 02:35:26 PM »
Updates of my plants:

Unfortunately I have very sad news.
The seedling of Couma guianensis died. It looks like it got to weak while trying to open from the shell and when my wifre freed it it was allready too late. My wife told that between the cotyledons there was a lot of latex and maybe this is the reason it couldn't properly open.
The second very sad news is my Tetragastris seedling. It was looking to make a root, but the seems that it died. My wife opened the seed shell - and that is how it looks inside :(

Plants that grow well is a Talisia sylvatica and an Eugenis longiracemosa seedling (see pictures). The other seeds are still do not show signs of changes.


Sorry very much for the bad news :(
For me it is really sad






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seedlings available at Pine Island Nursery...
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:57:28 AM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on June 16, 2014, 06:28:38 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on June 16, 2014, 06:25:04 AM
Quote from: fruitlovers on June 16, 2014, 06:18:13 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on June 16, 2014, 06:12:55 AM
I am a bit desparated with rambutan seeds.
I have a great success with growing Lychee or Longan. Almost every seed sprouts and survives, but rambutan is abig problem to me, often seeds die without even sprouting. What may be the reason?
Has anybody an idea what may be my error.
I mostly take seeds from fresh fruit, soak for 12 hours in water and plant in soil.
This treatment works perfectly for longan and lychee, but not rambutan.

You don't need to soak the seed. Just clean all the pulp off the seed and plant immediately out of the fruit. Very important to get all the pulp off to keep seed from getting moldy. Cover with 1 cm. of soil. Keep soil moist, use dechlorinated water. Don't use chemical fertilizers. Keep humidity level high.
Here seeds volunteer and grow right under mother trees. So it is very easy in right environment.

So maybe it is the soaking, as for the rest everything is done as You described.
I experimented even with various soils and humidity.
The thing is that In the same soil at the same time of planting longan and lychee sprouted very good (100% for longan and arround 95% for lychee), while rabutan seeds onle one of twenty started to sprout but died immediately.
May calcium be a disturbing factor? Water here is higher in calcium and carbonates...

Yes calcium in the water or in soil could be a problem. They like acid soil and acid water in pH range of 6 to 6.5. I've never soaked them, but doubt only 12 hours would kill the seeds.

I'll measure these days the pH. Hope this is the solution.
Thank You a lot

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edible Ficus species
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:56:06 AM »
Similar to Ficus carica is Ficus afghanistanica in appearance, but I don't know if the fruit quality is the same.
I have tried many very different cultivars of Ficus carcia (don'T know the names).
Most nice I found cultivars from Greece and from my own Armenia.

But I always wondered to see in documentary films many nice looking tropical figs eaten by monkey, so I thought there may be also nice species of Ficus for food purpose.

Myself I have seen various strange figs of tropical ficus but without any taste and with a dry, paper-like structure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eating rambutan seeds?
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:26:24 AM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on June 16, 2014, 06:24:19 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on June 16, 2014, 06:18:23 AM
I have eaten for error rambutan seeds various times. The taste is nice, a little like Corylus or Almond.
But as they are lightly poisonous, maybe treatment is needed.

Only treatment needed is a bit of cooking. I stir fry them for 5 minutes on each side. You can also roast them.

I like them even fresh - before I didn't know that they are toxic.... :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seedlings available at Pine Island Nursery...
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:25:04 AM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on June 16, 2014, 06:18:13 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on June 16, 2014, 06:12:55 AM
I am a bit desparated with rambutan seeds.
I have a great success with growing Lychee or Longan. Almost every seed sprouts and survives, but rambutan is abig problem to me, often seeds die without even sprouting. What may be the reason?
Has anybody an idea what may be my error.
I mostly take seeds from fresh fruit, soak for 12 hours in water and plant in soil.
This treatment works perfectly for longan and lychee, but not rambutan.

You don't need to soak the seed. Just clean all the pulp off the seed and plant immediately out of the fruit. Very important to get all the pulp off to keep seed from getting moldy. Cover with 1 cm. of soil. Keep soil moist, use dechlorinated water. Don't use chemical fertilizers. Keep humidity level high.
Here seeds volunteer and grow right under mother trees. So it is very easy in right environment.

So maybe it is the soaking, as for the rest everything is done as You described.
I experimented even with various soils and humidity.
The thing is that In the same soil at the same time of planting longan and lychee sprouted very good (100% for longan and arround 95% for lychee), while rabutan seeds onle one of twenty started to sprout but died immediately.
May calcium be a disturbing factor? Water here is higher in calcium and carbonates...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eating rambutan seeds?
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:18:23 AM »
I have eaten for error rambutan seeds various times. The taste is nice, a little like Corylus or Almond.
But as they are lightly poisonous, maybe treatment is needed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edible Ficus species
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:14:41 AM »
Quote from: georgesunny on June 16, 2014, 06:10:52 AM
Edible fig is Ficus carica. Although it is originated in the middle east, now it is available all over the world. The best grown figs are available in the US. They have worked greatly on its improvement. My favorite fig is Brown Turkey. It is a very good variety which could easily be grown in containers. Inside is brick red, very sweet and tasty. Figs need lots of organic matter and loves sun light. Addition of lime is beneficial.
Ficus carica is very well known. But I think there are many edible Ficus species with sweet fruits....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan seedlings available at Pine Island Nursery...
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:12:55 AM »
I am a bit desparated with rambutan seeds.
I have a great success with growing Lychee or Longan. Almost every seed sprouts and survives, but rambutan is abig problem to me, often seeds die without even sprouting. What may be the reason?
Has anybody an idea what may be my error.
I mostly take seeds from fresh fruit, soak for 12 hours in water and plant in soil.
This treatment works perfectly for longan and lychee, but not rambutan.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Solanum torvum (Turkey Berry) for trade
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:42:46 PM »
How is the taste of the plant?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mimosa pudica Plant seeds...touch me not plsnt seeds for trade
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:41:16 PM »
Plants from other parts become easily weeds. Here in Central Italy Ailanthus altissima and Robinia Pseudacacia seem really to have completely destroyed the whole nature, they grow from every little spot of terrain and if you don't know anything on plants You may suppose that Ailanthus is the most frequent native plant here............:(

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mimosa pudica Plant seeds...touch me not plsnt seeds for trade
« on: June 11, 2014, 02:07:02 PM »
Actually Averrhoa carambola has also this opening effect, only a bit slower than Mimosa pudica

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Edible Ficus species
« on: June 10, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »
I'd like you to share Your knowledge on tasty edibly Ficus species.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pictures of my plants
« on: May 24, 2014, 03:53:23 PM »

Pomelo

Pyrus pyrifolia

Jackfruit

Rosa roxburghii

Coffee

Lychee

Pistacia vera

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pictures of my plants
« on: May 24, 2014, 03:37:54 PM »
Aegle marmelos

Psychotria punctata

Limonia acidissima

Psidium guajava

Dimocarpus longan

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region. (NEW SEEDS AVAILABLE)
« on: May 23, 2014, 11:12:23 AM »
Eugenia longiracemosa


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 23, 2014, 06:53:21 AM »
Dear Mourad, if You get seeds, can I order some from You?
Unfortunately this time I didn't succeed, but next time I hopefully will. Any Landolphias are very welcome by me :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Packages from India ?.
« on: May 22, 2014, 05:14:53 AM »
I had no problems with two sendings, it only took about a month for the seeds to arrive!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 22, 2014, 05:05:25 AM »
Quote from: Coconut on May 21, 2014, 09:43:34 PM

Nullzero! Hopefully they are not dioecious or my two seedlings are going to be a coffee table collection conversation nothing more.  If it fruit Mwambao will be the first one to receive fresh fruit, I am sure there will be trades to disperse this wider for everyone to enjoy; will keep you posted on the progress. Nullzero how is the Natal Ginger coming along?

Shouldn'T they be monoecious.
If any of you get new seeds, I'd love some too :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region. (NEW SEEDS AVAILABLE)
« on: May 22, 2014, 05:00:09 AM »
Thank You dear Vitor!
Yes in fact, it looks also like not all seeds I got from Garcinia mangostana were fully matured, so maybe that is the reason too.
Tetragastris is developing I think. Last time I checked him when I moved the seeds to my wifes parents house. There the conditions are better than at my home. I'think temperature could reach between 25-27. 30 would be difficult a bit technically. I hope they will do well same way :). I put them in half-shade. The seeds that still didn'T sprout I have in a mixture of perlite and vermiculite, to avoid fungus (duguetias, endopleura and garcinias).
Hope to succeed, specially with the rarest ones.
Next time You'll be out in the forests, please remember my mania with Strychnos species, if you should meet any :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 21, 2014, 06:45:29 AM »
Quote from: Coconut on May 21, 2014, 12:28:47 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on May 19, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
Quote from: EvilFruit on May 19, 2014, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on May 19, 2014, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: EvilFruit on May 19, 2014, 08:11:19 AM
Do you still have them ??

Me or Mwambao ?


Mwambao


If he has I'd also would retry, but maybe it'll be difficult. Seeds look like they are recalcitarant, but must be a great plant. When I recieved the seeds, there was still a bit of flesh on them, the aroma is like something between persimmon and pumpkin


Yes they are super recalcitrant being a seed that go through a primate digestive systems for germination.
Here is my two seedlings from Mwambao eight seeds he send me.






Great, really great! I wish to have at least two, but from the many seeds he sent me no one survived strangely. The ebryo got brown and then has fallen out of the seed. Unfortunately that moment I had nor antifungines nor perlite or vermiculite available to create a more sterile enviroment.
I hope there will be the opportunity to try again.
Congratulations to You, as it will be really a great beautiful plant with tasty fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region.
« on: May 19, 2014, 04:58:56 PM »
Quote from: Sanddollarmoon on May 19, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: AlexRF on May 14, 2014, 11:43:03 AM
First Duguetia megalocarpa seed sprouted.

Alex, after reading this I checked my two D. Megalocarpa seeds. Both were cracking open along the blunt end. There is no sign of life from the Tetragastris, but two Eugenia longiracemosa are sending up shoots. I will post photos soon.

Tetragastris seems to grow very slowly. Wait a little. My D.megalocarpa still didn't show signs of life, while Tetragastris is slowly developing its root. Eugenia longiracemosa seems the fastest and easiest to grow of the seeds Vitor offered here.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 19, 2014, 02:17:49 PM »
Quote from: EvilFruit on May 19, 2014, 11:48:05 AM
Quote from: Taparyal on May 19, 2014, 09:15:16 AM
Quote from: EvilFruit on May 19, 2014, 08:11:19 AM
Do you still have them ??
Me or Mwambao ?

Mwambao

If he has I'd also would retry, but maybe it'll be difficult. Seeds look like they are recalcitarant, but must be a great plant. When I recieved the seeds, there was still a bit of flesh on them, the aroma is like something between persimmon and pumpkin

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 19, 2014, 09:15:16 AM »
Quote from: EvilFruit on May 19, 2014, 08:11:19 AM
Do you still have them ??
Me or Mwambao ?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Landolphia kirkii Dyer
« on: May 19, 2014, 05:44:24 AM »
Unfortunately I didn't succeed with Landolphia kirkii. Don't know why, but seeds turned bad starting from the embryo :(
I am really sorry :(
But I tried my best.
Dear Mourad, shoud you get new seeds again please let me know. Only from the seeds You sent it was clear that it must be a great fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region. (NEW SEEDS AVAILABLE)
« on: May 19, 2014, 05:38:52 AM »
Quote from: Rare.Species.Amazon on May 19, 2014, 01:21:59 AM
Hi Taparyal.
Do not worry, I believe Couma seedling will develop well. A friend planted some seeds Couma and also informing me about this development. Are species that I never planted, so it is important to know the difficulties we can propagate these rare species.
Keep us informed.
Best regards,

Vitor

Dear Vitor, I really hope it will survive. I frear that the zone where the cotyledons are attached got bad (see the brown color). My wife said the seedling is still weak. I told to use some fungicide for security, although I prefer to void any chemicals. Eugenia longiracemosa is the first forming a seed. Till now conly Couma, Tetragastrid and the Eugenias sprouted, but Tetragastris seems still to be busy with the root.
It makes logic, as the rest of the seed You gave me mostly take time.
Have no experience with Duguetias, but I have a very good experience with Annona cherimola and always late but 99% germination.
Older seeds always take some months of time but still sprout.
Once I germinated n Annona after 3 years and an accidental washing mashine treatment :)
Intresting if Duguetias are more difficult to germinate ?!

With what I had always problems was Garcinia mangostana, so now I'll see how I do with other Garcinias.
Garcinia mangostana, Nephelium lappaceum and Calligonum aphyllum are my cursed plants, many times I tried I always failed.
Nephelium always forms a root and then dies, while its cousins (Dimocarpus longana and Litchi chinensis do very well).

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