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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Vs Squamosa - cold-hardy ?
« on: July 25, 2015, 10:34:39 AM »
Sometimes it is useful to know the scientific names.
For Example: in US Annona reticulata usually called "Custard Apple", 
in India "Custard Apple" is the popular name for Annona squamosa (Sweetsop, Sugar Apple in US).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya Vs Squamosa - cold-hardy ?
« on: July 24, 2015, 05:11:38 PM »
Custard Apple (A. reticulata) primarily more cold hardy than Sweetsop (A. squamosa).
More or less than Atemoya - dont know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona senegalensis?
« on: July 24, 2015, 05:04:17 PM »
The ecotypes here in Uganda are tropical; very beautiful trees and nice fruits though seedy. I got two seedlings growing and have spread some seeds in the past.

We can trade. I need A senegalensis tropical variety.  I can offer seeds from South Africa, India, Indonesia, Thailand or inform me your wish list.   :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona senegalensis?
« on: July 24, 2015, 01:42:56 PM »
It seems they grows actively in 25-30 Celsius. Close to 20 or to 35 they can fall to dormancy.
My third  8 month seedling just 1 ft tall (from Cameroonian seed) and they was stopped 4 monthes!
At this Spring two new "Cameroonian" popped out in Guanabana and Custard Apple pots. Looks good but they still 4-5 cm. Obviously dwarf variety... :)

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Hikoku,
probably you missed my info about A. stenophylla source:
Simon Mukwewa, Harare, works at Zimbabwean Botanical Garden  smukwewa@gmail dot com
He wrote me some time ago:
"...Apart from Annona senegalensis, i also have Annona stenophylla, Adansonia digitata, Parinari curatellifolia, Flacourtia indica,Hexalobus monopetalus,Vangueria infausta,Monodora junodii,Azanza garckeana,Vitex payos,Artabotrys brachypetalus,Friedielsia obovata,Diospyros mespiliformis,Berchemia zeyheri and Strychnos spinosa..."

Because I have only one A. stenophylla seedling (recently revived and doing well), I ordered and received from him some new seeds (collected in December).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona senegalensis?
« on: July 23, 2015, 03:29:29 PM »
At least two basical types of A. senegalensis exist.
"Roundish leaves":

"Elongated leaves":

Probably some difference in fruit shape and taste.
Perhaps genetic analysis once show that they are different species.

At my experience, A. senegalensis  not demanding to soil or water.
An important feature - a period of dormancy near three monthes. Dont overwater it.
Coconut knows alot about A. senegalensis growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona's lovers
« on: July 22, 2015, 05:03:12 AM »
Joaave,
look at this map:
http://eol.org/pages/1054858/maps
push on "+" to enlarge image. We can see that almost no chanses to find ripen fruit of this species in Argentina. If only in the province Formosa, close to the border and Asuncion.
More realistically ask Paraguayan (Bolivian?) friends.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Rheedia brasiliensis
« on: July 22, 2015, 04:37:53 AM »
Raul,
thanks for detailed info, I will ask this Ilama seeds in August.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Rheedia brasiliensis
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:47:54 PM »
yes I have I lama in fact I have an unique I lama that doesn't crack when s ripe!
this unique Ilama is green or red variety? What monthes it usually ripen?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:25:34 PM »
Alex!
I have the same problem. You irrigate with city water? If yes, you must forget it. I used
earlier pure city water, but it didn't work. Always had chlorosis problem with my plants (citrus trees and coffee was the worst)  So, i used for few years  "managed" city water. I'll tell you how i make it. First leave the water stand for a day. The chlorine is removed. Second I use vinegar essence for pickling. For 10 liter of water 1 teaspoon vinegar essence. From ph 7,5 to pH 6,8 decreases. And I use always a small amount of general fertilizer + small amount chelated Fe.
I know rainwater would be the best, but unfortunately there is no chance. I almost forgot: if you can't use vinegar essence, you can substitute citric acid. In this case for 10 liter of water 10 gramm citric acid.
This method worked my citrus trees and another acid soil loving plants(coffee, orangeberry)

Thanks Ataman!
Jaboticaba really so like acid soil?
Anybody else has such experience with vinegar essence or other acidifiers?

Adam,
I didnt say, that reduce minrerals in the water by filter system. Maybe not enough...
I can take water from nearest spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona's lovers
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:55:45 AM »
By the way, Annona nutans habitat not only in Paraguay, but also in nearest Argentina, Boliviaa and Brazil regions.  You can ask your friends.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona's lovers
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:47:32 AM »
Hi guanabannus thast not  cornifolia, this is from venezuela . its unknow...nutans there is in paraguay , cornifolia only in brasil. but the fruis in both so diferent with the fruit from venezuela, a friend tellme in Bolivia thereis  annona hergozii with great flavor but small size. show a picture



joaave,
you probably some confused. Not "hergozii", but Annona herzogii, ex Rollinia herzogii.
The fruit on your pic looks like Rollinia spp really. There are so many Rollinia spp in South America... :o
Oneday new Heimo Rainer will come and reduce all Rollinias to Annona mucosa varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annona's lovers
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:39:52 AM »
The orange fruit pictured is probably closely related to Annona cornifolia, in the Gamopetalum section of the Annona genus.

Perhaps it is Annona nutans, which I have never seen.

Har, my Annona sp. "Manirito de Agua" seedlings develops and looks very far from my A. cornifolia seedling. Seeds shape also differs.
Annona nutans fruit and seeds shape very close to A. cornifolia. Leaves also not so far.
http://www.pybio.org/3145/annonaceae/

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:18:02 AM »
sent PM

Very intreresting, in what soil this tree grows?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: July 20, 2015, 02:33:04 PM »
My water includs some iron and manganese, but Jaboticaba has been still suffering.
I suppose at first heavy soil with not good aeration.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 19, 2015, 04:54:05 PM »
Ilama fruit season already started? When and where this seeds were collected?

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Really we need chromosome number analyzator...  :)

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Really, there is a lot of D. virginiana X D. kaki. This cross isnt problem, both species are decidious and subtropical. Usually do it for cold tolerant cultivars.
Maybe we can make hot tolerant Persimmon cultivar, that dont need cold dormancy.
Need to cross D. kaki with some of the tropical Diospyros spp.

Druss,
decandra fruit season just started in Thai and VietNam. You can buy this fresh seeds on Ebay right now.
Can you tell us when the fuit season of Australian Diospyros spp., especially D. australis?
What species are decidious and what are evergreen?

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My wife and I hope do some experiments with Diospyros spp. Already grow texana, kaki, dygina, mespiliformis, lycioides, vaccinioides, blancoi, crassiflora  1-2 years seedlings. Decandra and montana still shipping to us.
Somebody in Australia grows unusual Persimmon?
Such as: http://foodslink.jp/syokuzaihyakka/syun/fruit/kaki-Kuro.htm
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/hana-online/kaki_kurokaki_03/
Is it hybrids?
Is it possible tropical and subtropical (evergreen and decidious) Diospyros spp crosses?

Garcinia livingstonei (and others African) are closer to Rheedia spp (Achacha, Luc's...) or to Garcinia spp (Mangosteen, Mundu, Russel's...)?
Some hybrids could make a splash! It remains only to get them...   ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: July 18, 2015, 01:28:17 AM »
My greenhose in vacation home and I used artesian well, no chlorine.
Anyway thanks for very useful expirience!
Suspect the bad soil aeration lead to problems too...

I'm willing to bet lack of humidity is the cause, (what is the relative humidity in your growing area?)
In this part of greenhouse 65-70% on the average. When humidifier works - 75-80%. Not enough?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: July 17, 2015, 03:15:44 PM »
My greenhose in vacation home and I used artesian well, no chlorine.
Anyway thanks for very useful expirience!
Suspect the bad soil aeration lead to problems too...

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Yes, U. lurida was ordered from Uncle Chan too. Three seeds already germinated in sphagnum and planted to pots. U. grandiflora seeds looks like some dormant. Hope they viable.

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Uvaria cordata is African, not Asian species:
http://plants.jstor.org/stable/10.5555/al.ap.flora.flota000070
I mean it close to Uvaria ovata.

You can buy interesting Asian Uvaria lurida on ebay. This seeds germinated well.

Anybody germinated Uvaria grandiflora seeds from Ebay?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: July 16, 2015, 09:59:41 AM »
Thanks Adam! I deleted "alien" Syzygium image.

We need sandy soil mix for Jaboticaba or not?
Why it has brown leaves tips all almost time?

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