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Edgar has been highly MBBS susceptible for me.

Maha Chanok , Mallika, Edgar, Sunrise, Orange Essence..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 lychee crop good or not?
« on: April 16, 2020, 09:27:23 PM »
Yikes. I was told that fruit drop was due to lack of water. Apparently, they need boatloads of water during that period.

I'm in a similar situation though: 1 lychee on a 13 year old mauritius and maybe a dozen or so on a 10 year old sweetheart... :-(

12 of my 18 trees flowered heavily but I will be lucky to get 3 - 4 pounds of fruit in total. Some set well but the panicles thinned down after the fruit were a little bigger than pea sized. The trees are on irrigation so I do not think it was a watering issue. If I had planted 18 mango trees instead, I would probably harvest 500 - 1000 pounds of mangos.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding: Spraying vs Fogging
« on: April 16, 2020, 08:05:58 PM »
:D Pump is boss

SR430 I will definitely check it out.
I see the pump also provides agitation! stihl has act together
Thanks for info

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding: Spraying vs Fogging
« on: April 16, 2020, 03:58:44 PM »
Check out the new SR430. It doesn't have dusting capabilities (I've never needed it), but it comes with a built-in pump, which is very useful for spraying taller trees.

Getting me a stihl 450 duster / mistblower for the inaccessible spots.What do you think?mist blowers are very efficient!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding: Spraying vs Fogging
« on: April 16, 2020, 01:48:51 PM »
I use the same rate in my fogger as is recommended for sprayers. Main difference is that the fogger can be an order of magnitude more efficient in terms of total amount of liquid needed. So rather than losing a large percent of liquid to run off, there is basically zero waste. Switched from sprayer to fogger several years ago (based on a recommendation of a hawaiian here on the forum), and never looked back :-).

Is there a different concentration requirement for a fogger vs a standard sprayer?
I assume not because the amount that stays on the leaf should be the same.
Does anyone have experience with this?

Donate them. Or practice your grafting skills.

Congrats. Yours are rounder than mine. Seed to flesh looks potentially better too.

I picked my first fruit today. I picked it early trying to get it before it was fully ripe and very sweet but I was too early. It was sour with some sweetness. It was the smallest of 11 fruit on my trees. I got the seeds in 2013 and planted the tree in full sun in 2015. The trees are around 6 feet tall and 5 feet wide. The spot my fruiting trees are planted is very windy and not favorable for garcinias. I have bigger trees in pots and planted in more protected areas from the same batch of seeds but those have not flowered yet.

The fruit I picked today along side one of the bigger fruits on the tree.

My tree used to be like that. New class of anthracnose has been causing issues though.

I live in south Miami and my Carrie probably has the cleanest leaves and nicest growth habit of my collection of 15 mango trees.
The worst issue with Carrie is that they are TOUGH to pick. If you lave them on tree till they look ripe they will be mushy or fall to the ground. Also this is probably a mango for mango lovers. Your friends who aren't mango fiends would rather have a Glenn or a VP which you eat with your eyes.


Interesting. Both of mine (grafted to a old glenn) grow with incredible vigor. I remember Walter's tree being huge as well. Wonder if there is some rootstock influence there.

y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.

Orange Sherbet trees tend to be more compact and less vigorous than LZ in my experience, produce more consistently and the fruit is much more resistant to MBBS.

y? Because the branches have more of a tendency to droop when they get long?

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

On their best days , LZ is sweeter. But I like orange sherbet as a tree much better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba Flowering But Not Fruiting
« on: April 11, 2020, 09:45:50 AM »
Nuts. Someone else from socal was posting about this issue a couple of weeks ago. Wonder if you guys are lacking a pollinator or a micronutrient.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CITRUS DISEASE HELP!
« on: April 10, 2020, 07:05:52 PM »
Did someone perhaps prune it very heavily, allowing the sun to burn the newly exposed bark below? That looks like sunburn injury.

:D It's all about eating it at just the right time. The carrie can either be smooth and ultra delicious or the taste and texture of vomit, depending on cultural conditions and stage of ripeness. There's not much of an in between.

Fruit Punch (YESSS - Har is the man!)

Lemon Zest (YESSS - Har is the man!)

M-4 (YESSS - Har is the man!)

Orange Essence (YESSS - Har is the man!)

Carrie (You are dead to me.)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest confirmation or otherwise
« on: April 10, 2020, 07:00:29 PM »
looks zesty to me. If the sap has citrus smell, then I think you have a very high probability of having a clone.

If you're interested in speeding up fruiting, graft it to a very vigorous branch of an established / mature tree. Chop back a biggish limb that gets full sun and graft to one of the shoots.

I got an orange sherbet seedling (well technically 2 of them) to fruit in under 3 years using this technique.

:D I know what you mean

If your not planning to make some copies to hook up friends and family
That's a good idea. I've been collecting for while just new to this fourm .
Trust me my yard is popping at the seams.

HAHAHA  seems like kina a cool location, right on the bay n all.

A lot of (very low) land, salt ,mosquitos,noseeums,deer flies,gun happy recluse,cults,crazy writers and artists,loons!!I fit right in!Oh the last zip code covid free in lee county?

u live in bookelia I see. Question: Why is land so cheap out there?

Has been a medium producer for me (on a topworked glenn). But flavor is outstanding.

hehe! Thanks for the suggestion! Ima add this to my list of budwood buy when I get ready to graft.

Theyíre a waste of time in our warm climate imo. You will find anecdotal examples of them doing well (particularly when grown inland where the temperature gets cooler), but theyíre much better suited for central Florida and California.

Weíve got 30 of them under cultivation and may begin top-working some this year.
If you want something that tastes like Sweet Tart And actually produces reliably, grow Cecilove.

Maybe someday weíll get winters again in south Florida.

OS tends to be smaller, and differently shaped. In my yard, it tends to be less productive. Flavor is slightly different, closer to LM in my mind. (I like LZ best of the three.) OS also seems more susceptible to internal breakdown.

I wonder what the main differences are between LZ and Orange Sherbet.  I remember Har tasting it and liking it last summer.

Har is a great resource. Lucky to have him on the forum.

Jakarta is a great mango, as well as the related bombay and sunrise (surprised Har did not recommend sunrise).

As for lemon zest, I've had good success with them. This year, all 3 are loaded and haven't spotted MBBS on them yet this year (except for a few when they were bb-sized, which eventually just dropped off). The key has been fortnightly fungicide spraying. However, those who live in less humid areas or with sufficient air flow may not have any issues -- it really seems to vary by location. My LZ have also been regular producers over the past 3 years or so.

This is interesting. I have 2 sweet tarts, both in ground for > 5 years. One produces small crops every year, the other has been producing heavy crops, regularly snapping branches. Is it possible that the tree is sensitive to rootstock influence?

On a related note, one of my neighbors has an Edward that produces semi-heavy crops nearly every year. Yet, the branch that I grafted from his tree (onto a keitt) has produced very little. (To be fair it's the first year that it's flowered for me.) I'm a little bummed, cause I actually gave my neighbor the tree. We thought about digging it out of the ground when he sold, err, lost the house to foreclosure (he offered it to us), but it was too big.

That is odd, not something I've seen here in my neck of the woods. Is that a common issue in socal?

Itís been a while since Iíve been on TFF... but #Coronacation has me spending more time in my yard again.

Iíve got a couple jabos in the qround - and in the last couple years Iíve only had ONE fruit!  That was years ago, and that jabo hasnít event flowered since.    Meanwhile, my largest (now over 6í tall) jabo keeps flowering but I have yet to see a single fruit.  Any ideas?

The flowers opened up - I counted about 20 - and have wilted away without fruit set.

Most of us who have been collecting for a while don't really have space for more trees, so I've just been topworking existing trees to be multi-cultivar :D.

What variety would you recommend for rootstock?

Depends on where you live,  in Florida I would go with terpintine,
im in cali, I like my Kent seedling to use as rootstock since I have a fruiting tree I can start a bunch of seedlings for rootstock, 



Very interesting.

What is 40-26? Is it coco flavored?

Holy macaroni that's a huge list! Any personal favorites in there?

Are you gonna be open for fruit sales in April?

Yes, a few we really like that donít get as much attention as some of the more well known others:

Ah Ping (bbs prone)
Little Gem
Mario (bbs prone)
Panchadara Kalassa
Sein Ta Lone
ST Maui
White Piri

Also I need to edit the master list since there are some other varieties weíre growing that may be large enough to be harvesting budwood from as well.

I think we will have mango fruit ready to sell  by appointment within a couple weeks. Probably open for regular hours in second half of April.

Itís a julie seedling but flavor is more like Gary. Our own tree struggled with a micro deficiency for a while so hasnít grown as much as it should. It doesnít seem to have the male flower problems Gary has though, so a potentially much more productive Gary improvement. Still evaluating it and probably need to topwork a stump to it to get a better picture of its performance.

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