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I like Carrie from my tree at all stages of ripeness. But slightly under ripe is more acid and less sweet. (Complex)  Just a bit less sweet. So I like this the best
The one i tried was a little soft for my liking. I read about a medical after taste and i did taste that. It was not offensive or appealing but i will give it another try slightly under ripe. I do like mango with sub acid after taste :)

Yeah do try Carrie at green but a slight bit of give to it as in ever so slightly soft. Not even any yellow showing on the skin

My original instinct was at least see some yellow to pick Carrie.  A tiny smile of yellow then see if Carrie has any give.  You say medical taste but what you mean is medicinal taste. Too piney for some.  Carrie has a very good reputation in Broward. People from India know about it. A neighbor just planted a Carrie and a Hawaiian dwarf. Bought them at Delray mango farm.
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This mango is now commonly known as ‘Dwarf Hawaiian’ despite actually being from Puerto Rico, where it was given the name ‘Tete Nene’. It was likely a Julie seedling, and its growth habit and foliage resemble that of Julie, as does the flavor. Dwarf Hawaiians are compact, dwarfish trees that require hardly any pruning when young.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2 more Mangos
« on: June 30, 2020, 09:36:26 PM »
I went by Tropical Acres and talked to Alex. He seemed pretty enthusiastic about the Cac, so I went with that one. He will graft me a Son Pari ready in October.

Cac is very good. You had many mango choices thrown at you and Cac is solid!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 30, 2020, 11:32:34 AM »
Jabba The Hutt....... You lived in freezing ass Lockport NY and now you are in prime mango growing Florida territory. It is imposible to be a vegan in Lockport but Florida maybe. I love the vitamin D intake when I go outside here in FL. Wearing a t-shirt or not, the sun making vitamin D for us all is something else. And we all know vitamin D is very anti-Covid virus.

Unfortunately - all vegans hit the wall. Eventually. My advice to them is that when they cave, eat white meat fish like cod and flounder. Or any kind of fish. Become a pescatarian for a while, while you figure out what to do next.

Veggie Proff ---
All hack jobs are forgiven this early in the growth season. Mother nature is going to paper it over. Growth is so rampant it (what you did) will look some genius pruning in 4-6 weeks. If you are worried then water this mango tree every other day to accelerate growth.

I like Carrie from my tree at all stages of ripeness. But slightly under ripe is more acid and less sweet. (Complex)  Just a bit less sweet. So I like this the best

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 29, 2020, 06:30:28 PM »
Years ago I was vegan for 6 years. Let me be more precise. I ate fish every now and then so I was 99.5% vegan.  For all vegans out there----And this is no lie---- You will all hit the wall eventually.  More so for men than women. Women can hold out longer on a zero animal food diet.

Vegan men will definitely cave in sooner and give it up.  You want to try a real health kick. Juice two bunches celery before you eat anything. Celery juice X2 for breakfast. Optional add ins are ginger and lime and MSM powder.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much fruit harms society ?
« on: June 28, 2020, 02:49:00 PM »
SeaWalnut--- I think you are talking about Slivovitz made from plums? The Romanian equivalent of Slivovitz.

So too many plum trees in Romania means too many drunk on Slivovitz. I have never tasted Slivovitz. It is rare in America and always imported. I was curious but it was too expensive. Slivovitz must be dirt cheap in Romania. My guess is one dollar per liter. How much sugar are they adding when they make this?

Arroz con Pollo--- Here is the ultimate peasant food. Go to Aldi and buy the family pack drumsticks that is 99˘/per lb

Go outside and rip off the skin/ use an old rotten T-Shirt to grab onto these skins. Animals always come by and eat these discarded skins at night for me.  Steam cook these drumsticks and serve with rice white or brown. I ate this with white rice a few days ago/  Take the chicken steaming liquid and cook your rice in this along  with 10 whole black peppercorns.

All else in commentary

Minus a nice watering system you can always take a plastic one gallon water jug. Or maybe milk came in it? One pin hole at the bottom and this will drip irrigate a new fruit tree. All kinds of other plastic containers can be used the same way. New fruit trees. At least hit them with garden hose every second day. And of course they are wood chip mulched 3" deep to bank the water.

"Water is your best fertilizer"  --  Harry Hausman/ The long time, decades in the making, mango guru who used to post here. He had 118 different mango varieties planted. Lol now full time >>>>

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What a shame. R.I.P. Mike. I was over to his place ten times through the years. He has lots of trees planted. I hope this continues. He could move a lot of fruit trees. One time I was there, every tree I wanted, they were all reserved for one man ordering 50.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrels
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:51:30 PM »

I like how she steps up close to the camera every few minutes . Only problem is that with so much sun glare we cannot see what she is pointing out.  Her first go tos are Carrie and Pickering which are mine for this season.

But her bruised n ugly mangoes are still too nice. When you keep your best for paying/non-paying friends.  Minimal varmints this year but when they do dip in, I sanitize with my garden hose turned onto blast. This blasts away all soft spots. too.

A great n delicious video! Listen to the birds tweeting in the background.

1. Lemon Zest

The list need not go on from there.

iow - All else is commentary. Not to mention the lies, the bulsht and the double talk. I am out tomorrow to fertilize my 9 year LZ after cutting it back last week. 8-3-9

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Watermelon ripeness
« on: June 03, 2020, 10:10:54 PM »
Thick rinds need to be juiced. I have a  Breville  fast RPM juicer but the green skin gets caught up in the blade

It takes more time but a green power- green star twin auger does it better. It is the Cadillac Escalade of juicers. But these days the ChiComs have single auger juicers. I have not surveyed eBay but at Amazon it looks like 80 dollars or so for a ChiCom single auger. Double auger extracts 10-15% more juice/

Juicing watermelon rinds with some ginger or lime is the best. Right now is the worst time to buy new or used green power on eBay.  After summer is the best as people dump their juicing programs.  I bought a green power-green star used cheap on ebay 5 years  ago. It was a back up. Then lo and behold my trusty older green power pooped out after 10 years. My back up was ready to swing into action.

Lemon Zest
Sweet Tart

Are the only ones on this list I have tasted.  I rank Carrie above them and Carrie was a new Zill back when FDR was President. Carrie is probably as good or better than all the new Zills on your list. Some are too sweet on the hypoglycemic index. But he (Zill#whatever) gave the people what they want. Cue the Kinks tune if you like.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Watermelon ripeness
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:34:29 PM »
Not growing but just buying. I saw some very nice seeded in Walmart the other day. All over all you see are seedless but Walmart still gets in seeded for the trad hold outs. When the hold outs die off we will all be eating xxxx

Your vote:
Seeded vs seedless
What do you look for in a supermarket watermelon? I look for a large yellow underbelly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit thieves rant
« on: June 02, 2020, 03:28:35 PM »
Game Cameras. (animal trail hunting cameras). easy to place several around the yard.. even the cheap $25 ones we have work pretty decent.
Simmons makes a 4 pack for 90-150 dollar range depending on sales.

How many mangoes did she steal? They look less than ripe. It looks like she is squeezing fruits like in a supermarket and looking for a ripe enough fruit. Keitt?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: June 02, 2020, 12:34:31 PM »
I have 260-270 mango trees in Kendall and only have about 270 fruit from these trees this year and yes I pruned the heck out of them as soon as I realized I wasn't getting any fruit from them in 2020. This took about 6-8 weeks to get done and if I waited till June July Aug and Sept to do it in worse heat then we just went through that would have been like working hard in hellish conditions. What went through my mind was that a dramatic pruning could be done because the trees were pruned so early that they could get another 1 or 2 times to flush and recover with way more lower to the ground branches for easier picking and more fruit in 2021. 2021 should be a banner year after our babies took such a big vacation!!!!!
eg my 20 y/o Valencia Pride reduced from 36+ ft to about 15 ft. Keitts the same. Serious dramatic pruning because of the 3-5 months of extra recovery time.
Now any of my trees that will have fruit that can be eaten in 2021 will not be pruned until after they fruit in 2021. All my other mango trees will continue to be tipped every time I pass by them and see that they need to be tipped.

An early mango season for sure, at least on some trees anyway. On my trees that have minimal or no yield, same as you I am pruning now and looking to tip prune the new growth in 8-10 weeks/

We always have to look towards the future seasons and it is not too early to think about 2021.

2021 should be a banner year after our babies took such a big vacation!!!!!

This will happen. A nice cold winter to induce maximum  South Florida mango bloom and fruit holds.  God willing of course, but with all the bad recent news (wuhan lab created covid19 and now we get riots and looting) I think we will get this much to counter balance it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 01, 2020, 02:54:04 PM »

Thanks for elaborating, saying more about meditation practices. So why not have a one day, all day vipassana retreat-session right where you are. Much can be accomplished in one day. The cooler months are better.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 01, 2020, 01:17:10 AM »
tropical-farmer..... I looked at your videos of the mediation garden. Very impressive. I also like what Weiss has to say so you are both correct.
Personally -- meditation is a waste of time. Best prayers are said out loud. Nam Myho Renge Kyo and heart sutra recitation is more effective. As in..... say it out loud. Mantras, minding breaths etc. in meditative silence evaporates into the ether unless you are living off boiled nettles in a cave.  Like Milarepa.
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Or Ray Dalio doing TM for 40 years. D credits TM for his success as a  hedgie worth 20 billions. Axe in TV show Billions is half modeled off him.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inches of Rain today FL
« on: May 28, 2020, 05:10:32 PM »
In SE Florida, in my zip 33321...... I think we have gotten 12" or more rain in the last five days. My lawn really greened up.
We even had rain last night. The canals were getting fairly low so its all good.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: my Mahachanok mango are so cute
« on: May 23, 2020, 04:58:22 PM »
Cute indeed! And in Redwood City just outside San Fran. The mango Gods are smiling on you and same with those in charge of global warming. Great colorations!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: At last! Now what?!
« on: May 23, 2020, 03:54:04 PM »
I would like to definitely grind the stumps down.
But it will be all up to me, I will have to rent one and have it be a DIY thing; after asking several tree companies many were hesitant because of the slope of the bank leading down to the water and the weight of the stump grinder. they were concerned equipment would end up in the water.

I know some people also have mentioned drilling holes into the stumps and pouring pool acid in them, to burning the stumps out by building a fire on them.

I am open to suggestions.

I had an Aussie pine stump and after HOA complained ..... OK it was a glorious 35 year old tree that I had it topped off once  by the tree trimmers. THEN ten years after/later Me and friend wasted it completely down to the stump. Lets say a 24" diameter stump. After 5 years of rotting in place I was able to easily chain saw it and remove it via pick axe.  No chems used

In your shoes I would leave the stumps, plant mango trees etc. in between.  Take your own personal chainsaw to stumps and cut the stumps downwards into quarters/  Use chems after those quarters rot. Chems means all nitrogen fertilizers or as close to this as you can get.

On smaller stumps go over them many times with ye old circular saw. Do it now on large stumps for shits n giggles. You will have to buy a few cheap Communist Chinese blades at Harbor Freight.

Wow, thats a lot of info I will have to keep in mind. I will take some inspiration from the images you have provided and I will try something myself, but it will most likely be very different. Unlike many people here I have a very tiny area in which to grow my plants. The only reason I have as many as I do is due to aggressive pruning, most plants in pots, and well hope that it works out, which so far it does. This however has the downside of creating a lot of shade essentially everywhere except for a few spots, but I just might let the trees grow there for the sake of more fruit production. That leaves the entire land shaded. So unless some of these plants are going to do good in shade, I fear it won't be possible. I am also worried about annuals, since I can't always be there to replant and such. I'm hoping to get some plants that will grow among the trees no problem with me occasionally cutting them down to put over my typical home depot mulch in hopes to replace some of its usage. I hear perrenial peanuts do good in shade, so those should be good as nitrogen fixers, but even that confuses me a bit. If these chop and drop plants are sop fast growing and become green manure, don't they take nutrients from the soil themselves, same with the nitrogen fixers?

#1- You are doing great and lots of thinking
#2- We go to war with the army that we have. The soil and the space we have at our disposal.

drone pigeon peas ... Impressive photo. Your are very dedicated and will make a dent BUT --Most people are going to grow chop-drop in a more haphazard way. Have you ever used a scythe? I have and this is what you need.

With your chop drop peas let them grow woody/ you probably are.  Yeah, you can make a dent and some mulch with those pigeon peas. You are the exception and not the rule

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