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Low spread out shape of Nam Doc Mai #4 when young --3 years. I have been tip pruning it. I have two of them (young) that spread wide like this. The plastic pipe in photo is 63". My older NDM is ball shaped. So the NDM tendency is low, not upward and tall like a Haden or Kent




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($25)




The white plastic pipe is 63" tall. I did some pre-digging and root pruning yesterday to prepare for moving this tree. I will dig it out and move it in 14 days. If no one wants it ($25) then I'll move to a less desirable spot in the back

I have two of these PSM planted and am moving this one and planting an avocado tree. This Pim Saen Mun is about 6ft tall and gave fruit this year during July. It was planted 2.5 years ago and came in 7 gallon size so it got off to a good start. If you want this tree let me know.
Pine Island description>>>  http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/pim-saen-mun-mango.shtml

I will put a notice in Craigslist in a day or two. I will pre-dig the tree for you  previous to you taking it away. This makes for better transplanting.



thanks!
Zands


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I saw this here or on gardenweb. I think it was a Julie mango tree that had a 4-5" thick trunk but was only 5ft x 5ft due to severe pruning all along. With older man about 75 years old standing next to it. It was his tree I am sure.
Anyone have this photo? Thanks!

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 Plant carambola , loquat now for payback later
Miami Herald, The (FL) - Sunday, March 7, 2010
Author: BRUCE W. GREER Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden
BY BRUCE W. GREER Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden

March should be a gloriously delicious month in your garden and provide a chance to prepare for years of benefits. Temperatures will be moderate, winds gentle and it will be relatively dry.

This means that the herbs you planted in the fall are coming to maturity and you will be picking basil, thyme, oregano, dill and others from now until rains start at the end of May.

If you planted vegetables from October through January, you will have enough cherry tomatoes, lettuce, peppers, radishes and carrots to make a salad every day, providing the maximum benefit of vitamins and minerals.

But if you were unable to plant vegetables in the cooler fall weather, you could get creative now and find a spot where they will prosper in the hot weather that is just around the corner. A very light shade from a large oak or a location with only morning sun might allow you to squeeze in one more vegetable crop this season.

You might find it more pleasing and ultimately rewarding to put your efforts this month into planting a few good fruit trees. Here are two fruits that children love to eat right off the tree. And let's be honest, when it comes to tropical fruit, we all are children.

The star fruit or carambola (Averrhoa carambola ) is a great choice for your garden. It is a yellow translucent waxy fruit about three to six inches long and is star shaped when cut. It is believed to be from Asia, where it has been cultivated for centuries. While it can easily grow to a dense 20-foot canopy, it can be kept as a small symmetrical tree and will bear heavily with very juicy fruit high in vitamin C.

Carambola seedlings have been grown in South Florida for almost a century. You may want to enter the Fruit Lottery and try to find a one-in-a-million new seedling variety. However, if you decide to purchase a grafted variety, you will be assured to get the sweetness you desire.

A local homeowner, Morris Arkin, took that chance for you in the early 1970s. He grew a seedling in his backyard that was so large and delicious it was subsequently named the Arkin. It is now the most popular variety available. Arkin fruit are bright yellow, juicy, sweet and store well. However, if you have space for two trees or prefer a milder taste, the Fwang Tung is a Thai cultivar that is light yellow -- almost white -- and more delicate.

Carambola trees prefer a slightly acidic soil. In South Florida, they benefit from hearty mulching out to the drip line. Pine bark or oak leaves will acidify the surrounding soil just enough to allow you to grow your tree organically.

You should expect heavy crops to give you more than enough fruit to eat fresh, plus enough to make jellies and refreshing juices. A well-grown tree should provide two or more crops a year, with the summer crop being a little sweeter and more prolific.

The loquat or Japanese plum (Eriobotrya japonica) is a great tree for every garden. It can be espaliered flat against a wall to grow in a narrow space, pruned low and artistically as is done in Asia, or you can let it naturally become a dense shade tree about 25 feet tall and 20 feet wide.

It will grow in most soils in South Florida and is salt tolerant. The loquat likes reasonable moisture to produce best, so mulch of its own leaves or other leaves in the vicinity will keep its feeder roots happy.

Loquats yield large crops of sweet-to-tart, yellow-to-orange, one-inch in diameter fruit that are great eaten out-of-hand or used in pies, preserves or other recipes.

You can purchase a seedling that can vary in size, color, taste and bearing. Or you might look for a named grafted variety so you can easily know what your fruit will be and when you can pick it.

There are different cultivars or varieties that fruit at different times from December through April. "Christmas" bears very early in the season as its name implies. "Bradenton" is a midseason cultivar for February, and both are recommended for a home garden.

Some fruit will be susceptible to the Caribbean fruit fly, but these two varieties produce early and will provide more fruit than you need.

Loquat wood is soft and, therefore, pruning is very easy. You can keep the tree at less than 10 feet and pick all the fruit you want by hand. If you want very large fruit, simply thin out the crop when the fruit first appear, and the remainder will have the energy to grow larger.

When that old farmer said to "plant what pays you back," he probably had the loquat and carambola crops in mind. Take a little time to plant these two trees in the mild March weather and they will pay you back with fruit for many years to come.

For more information on tropical fruit and other garden subjects and activities, go to www.fairchildgarden.org.

Bruce W. Greer is president of Fairchild's Board of Trustees and a lifelong gardener.

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What are your favorite varieties?
I am thinking of getting a carambola for fall- winter-spring season>>>>>
I need something good (fruit tree) for outside the mango season when everyone is overloaded with fruits.

Is anyone having good results with carambola grown in a large pot? I cannot plant right away due to running out of space until I possibly cut down some non-performers (trees)

Thanks for all suggestions!


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Bought at Broward Meat and Fish--- Anyone know what kind this is?  Doni?
They were selling Florida mangoes for $1.49. These avocados were $.79. Just about all were rock hard. Bought two that were hard and one that was ripe to eat yesterday. I would be happy to have such a tree in my backyard

Sharpie pen for size comparison

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tip prune lychee trees?
« on: June 18, 2013, 05:06:18 PM »
Everyone knows about tip pruning mangoes if you want a bushy more manageable size. More bushy shape with more nerve endings for mangoes to grow from. My young lychee has some straggly branches. Is tip pruning smart on lychees?

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HIS WEBSITE with accounts for different varieties>>>>
http://www.growquest.com/Fruit%20trees%20-%20better%20plant/Avocado_trees.htm

Here is the video from same person as the website. Notice how he plants the tree three inches above the soil line and does not want mulches
avocado tree planting soil line and mulch

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Micro yard tour June 8th 2013
« on: June 08, 2013, 10:12:16 AM »
Micro yard tour
    PP
  PP
above is perennial peanut ground cover...top is an established patch and below just planted
fairchild mango
van dyke shot from best angle
carrie supported by plastic lawn chair
  what is this flower?...found in a vacant lot
  Coc Vietnamese mango from Excalibur nursery that Rob (bsbullie) picked out. Thanks Rob! Green wood support because the winds are too tough on this one.
   local muscovy duck living the American dream with mortgage all paid off
Fairchild mango cluster these are small at 3 inches
  PP cuttings just planted without rooting hormone. Rainy season here should help them get established
  muscadine grapes waiting for planting
  Tadpole action in bucket left outside. More frogs the better!



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Here are effusive reviews for superthrive  super thrive rooting hormone
http://www.amazon.com/Superthrive-VI30155-Vitamin-Hormone-Supplement/product-reviews/B000EJ0PD4/ref=sr_1_3_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1


What brand do you plant and tree geniuses use for rooting hormone? I have a lot of perennial peanut I am establishing in some bald parts of my lawn. This perennial peanut is from Bill Whitman's estate via another person who was given cuttings from Bill when he visited in 2001. Now he has perennial peanut established all over his back yard. The ducks eat the cute little yellow flowers...... I can get many cuttings from him and already have a good patch in my front yard I established three years ago. Believe it or not the perennial peanut likes to grow with lawn grass and protects it, they are both growing synergistically in a formerly scrub weed inhabited spot. Lawn grass wants nitrogen and perennial peanut being a legume captures it in its roots


    my well established peanut
  Perennial peanut being established ...just planted



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone else using Keyplex 350?
« on: June 07, 2013, 07:25:08 AM »
I have heard good things about it. It can help citrus if you soil is alkaline etc etc.
_Plus where can you buy this in Broward and Palm Beach counties?

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Mark in Texas has said good things about it>>
It is used as a foliar and/or drench
I am about to order a quart or a gallon (possibly) to split with neighbors

INFOS

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/product/dyna-gro-foliage-pro-9-3-6/fertilizers

http://www.thehydrosource.com/dyna-gro-foliage-pro.html?___SID=U

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/view_reviews/2076/fertilizers

http://www.dyna-gro.com/936.htm

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Fairchild encourages certain weeds and cover crops that produce bright, colorful flowers that bring in the pollinators. To enhance mango and fruit tree pollination. Thanks!

The theory is that mango blossoms don't look so attractive to bees so you encourage other plants/weeds that do. Maybe scent is also involved to bring in more pollinators.

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Dangerous snarling fruit bandit gets nabbed with mango bait. A younger possum and I think just one from his family. Rats will get drowned but for possums I phone up The Transporter (Jason Statham) for his relocation services. Trap is a HavaHeart.





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This is what someone theorized a few days ago. I see lots of second bloom tiny fruits. My Pim Sen Mung is putting up fresh panicles. The mango trees are confused this year. Will the tiny fruits grow into edible fruit? I have my doubts since we are now at April 2nd. Maybe we get smaller mangoes this year from the late bloomers. Maybe people will get 12 oz Lancetilla mangoes

As far as first bloom some mangoes will be ripe and edible on May first is my thinking.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Any opinions on champagne loquat?
« on: March 28, 2013, 03:27:58 PM »
I happened to see a tree and tasted one of the fruits.  Anyone have info on how large the fruits grow and when they are ripe in South Florida. Thanks

How do you rate this variety?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does anyone thin out mangoes?
« on: February 18, 2013, 05:36:55 PM »
I have a tree that has too many (3,4,5) 1" fruits per panicle on some of the panicles. Should I thin or let nature do the thinning? It seems a waste of the trees resources to let them all keep growing until a few drop off

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I have a Carrie tree that bloomed a lot but only has 15 fruits developing. In hopes of stimulating a second bloom I have clipped all non-producing panicles to half an inch. Hoping they will dry up sooner so they will fall off sooner. Making it easier for new panicles to come forth. I did this on some other mango trees too. This is an ideal year for wanting a second bloom, with trees here being highly variable in how many panicles were produced. Due to the warm winter.
We shall see.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Getting rid of spiraling white fly (whitefly)
« on: January 08, 2013, 08:15:18 AM »
Here is some directions to get rid of them. Anyone tried them?
http://monroe.ifas.ufl.edu/pdf/Hort/GLSW_Factsheet-Guide_for_HO.pdf

More information on this insect  http://monroe.ifas.ufl.edu/lawn/lawn_glsw.shtml

I never saw the actual white fly insects flying around until a few days ago around a banana plant. I cut it down and put it in the trash for collection. Some nearby mango trees where getting some black sooty leaves (just a few) due this banana plant which was their home.

So with warmer temperatures and spring coming I believe this insect will be on the increase. They make their telltale white spiral on the underside of leaves mostly leaves at the top of a plant. Then their gunk showers down onto lower leaves. This gunk is food for the black mold (that is always in our air in Florida due to humidity) which then feeds and forms on the top of leaves

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/01/04/filmfest-pullman-fruithunters/1810317/

Pullman's enthusiasm for living off the land prompted his appearance in a documentary, 'The Fruit Hunters,' debuting in Palm Springs this week.

Lots of people juggle careers. Bill Pullman has grafted his.

Pullman, who played the president of the United States in Independence Day, will play another U.S. president in the NBC comedy, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, debuting Jan. 10. But he's also included in Canadian director Yung Chang's documentary, The Fruit Hunters, because he's so involved in growing fruit on his 2 1/2-acre orchard below Hollywood's hillside sign.

The film, making its U.S. debut at the Palm Springs International Film Festival this week, tells the story of individuals who cultivate and go to extraordinary lengths to savor fruits few people have tasted.

MORE: The Desert Sun's Palm Springs International Film Festival coverage

Pullman, who grew up around an orchard in New York state, is one of those fruit hunters.

"Growing things and being able to live off the land has always appealed to me," he said in a phone call. "I think in California it really blossomed. This climate is sensational for growing a lot of different variety of rare fruit plants from other climates all year-round. That idea was intoxicating to me."

Pullman, 59, has grown over 100 different varieties of fruit, including four varieties of oranges, four of grapefruits, and many varieties of mandarins and tangerines.

"I would say the biggest surprise to me, the tree that I just find so cool (is) Persian mulberries," he said. "They're so fragile, the farmer's market will sometimes sell a single layer of them to gourmet chefs, but they're pretty pricey. But, if you stand under a tree and eat away, you just feel so lucky to have a sensation that very few people get to have."

Pullman is included in The Fruit Hunters with a shamanistic native fruit expert in Borneo, a Honduras scientist "racing against time" to breed a banana resistant to a devastating fungus and a 19th-century Chinese worker who cultivated the Bing cherry before being deported under the anti-Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. But Pullman provides a sense of drama when he galvanizes his community to work with a government agency to buy some Hollywood orchard property slated for development.

That effort failed, but the neighbors still get together for what Pullman calls a "picking kitchen."

"This picking kitchen is really going back to threshing bees (ceremonies to celebrate the threshing of a crop) — just pitching in to do something together outside and learn about fruit," he said. "We had one in May about loquats (a yellowish fruit grown mostly in Japan). Most of the people had never eaten one before. We have a lot of loquat trees in the canyon that we identified, and we picked them and harvested them and made sauce out of them. A lot of people get to feel like a farmer, even if it's just for four hours on a Saturday."

Pullman found himself in the middle of what he calls a zeitgeist of interest about sustainability and community. They exchange ideas at these picking kitchens that are quite sophisticated.

"This whole climate change and what it's doing to our environment is frightening to people," he said, "and to have a forum where they're discussing things like this, it's very rewarding. The Asian psyllid (an aphid-like insect) is moving up. It could destroy a lot of citrus trees. There's the whole whirling disease (infecting fish with parasites) and you've got colony collapse (caused by the mass disappearance of worker honey bees). Getting the word out for people to share knowledge is important. I think it begins in people's neighborhoods."

Pullman was organizing picking kitchens and saving the hillside while his acting career also was in full bloom. He did a TV movie called The Innocent in August and September 2011 and promoted his TV series Torchwood in that fall. He also shot The Fruit Hunters that fall before doing an L.A. play called The Jacksonian with Ed Harris.

"When we continued the picking kitchens, it was extremely emotional — all these things we did in the spring," said Pullman. "(Chang) had gone to Borneo and was doing other things, but I was doing the play and getting up in the morning on Saturdays and doing the Farmer's Circle, and then doing a matinee and evening show. That was a crazed period."

But he found calm savoring the flavor of his fruit. "It's all about the heightening consciousness of flavor and experience of life," Pullman said.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The No.1 Food on the Planet
« on: December 01, 2012, 08:31:16 PM »
The No.1 Food on the Planet


Attention Carlos in Homestead!  :)

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NPK fertilizer
I put some is a jar with enough water 3 days ago. Only 20% dissolved. I put it in a Vita-Mix blender to make dissolve quicker. Still not dissolved. Anyone know what the most soluble components are with a standard 10-10-10 fertilizer? The nitrogen, potassium or phosphate?


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Me being in Broward county. From here the 8 weeks of June-July are the height of the mango season. Some slight variation each year of course.
Is this accurate for South East Florida counties meaning Dade, Broward, Palm Beach counties? It is good to establish this peak when we get overwhelmed with mangoes and can't even give them away. This way you can plant some trees that are outside the peak such as Gold Nugget which is August

West Coast of South Florida counties must be about the same time table. The West Coast is slightly cooler than East Coast? Naples, Collier County, Florida must be prime mango territory but I never hear any reports from there. I know we have Fort Meyers members. I hear that St Petersburg has numerous backyard mango trees

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Does it make sense to plant a type A flower avocado tree and a type B flower avocado tree to enhance pollination and fruit set? Should you have one of each tree? They would have to blossom at the same time. For example -- Brogdon has flower B is and Lula has A. If this makes sense then how close should the trees be?

Avocado flowering and pollination http://ucanr.org/sites/alternativefruits/files/121264.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / When Van Dyke mango gets ripe in SE Florida
« on: October 05, 2012, 09:52:58 AM »
http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/mango/van-dyke-mango.shtml
Pine Island says it is ripe July to August. Can anyone say when their own Van Dyke mango tree gets ripe? With all the spring wind bursts last year I got only one fruit off this young tree and it was unpalatable. I just might move this tree. Where I move this tree to. When the Van Dyke fruit gets ripe affects which new spot I move it to...or not move it at all.

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