Quote from: Future on August 03, 2017, 03:51:03 PM

Purslane won't stop growing in the seams between bricks in my driveway.  It is another omega 3 source, the richest non-seed one for plants.

There are too many myths about what vegans can't get.  I have been vegan 20 years and my bloodwork verifies the approach. B12, D3, free and total testosterone, FSH, T3 and T4 hormones, prolactin, insulin, blood sugar, c reactive proven, tumor necrosis alpha, interluekine 6...everything is in the right range to live to 125.  Evidence beats opinions every time.

Anyone here under 44 years old is invited to my 125th....

Invitation accepted
I do not really care to know details of your diet, but I'm wondering if any other not nutritional "hacks" are utilized for such readings?

DL
Can you clarify the question?

Quote from: Mark in Texas on August 02, 2017, 07:57:03 AM

Quote from: Cookie Monster on March 04, 2015, 11:28:53 PM

Zinc is a rock star. Weird that we didn't really hear much about zinc and his progeny until just recently.

I just grafted Zinc onto a Lemon Zest but a person that has been doing this mango thing, etc. for a lonnnnnnng time said he's tried zinc fruit 3 times and finds it chalky....doesn't like it.

If picked too early or not truly ripe, it can be chalke (same goes for Sweet Tart and Vrnus).  If picked and ripened fully, an outstanding mango.  It can also have an early harvest and later harvest, with the later fruit usually being better.

And LZ can be chalky too...thankfully to those who also enjoy them that way.  I've never had the pleasure of a chalky Zinc.

Purslane won't stop growing in the seams between bricks in my driveway.  It is another omega 3 source, the richest non-seed one for plants.

There are too many myths about what vegans can't get.  I have been vegan 20 years and my bloodwork verifies the approach. B12, D3, free and total testosterone, FSH, T3 and T4 hormones, prolactin, insulin, blood sugar, c reactive proven, tumor necrosis alpha, interluekine 6...everything is in the right range to live to 125.  Evidence beats opinions every time.

Anyone here under 44 years old is invited to my 125th....

Quote from: Mike T on August 02, 2017, 07:13:45 AM

I think Oscar makes a good point that most people make choices about what to eat on the spur of the moment and include some poor foods. Vegans often take their diets much more seriously and are likely to more than compensate for missing nutrients by making fewer bad choices about what to eat. That is why I think a vegan diet with eggs, seafood, poultry and red meat would be fantastic for your health. I know it doesn't make sense.

I agree it doesn't make sense.  You don't have a vegan diet by consuming animal products.

Here is everything a layman needs to know about B12.

http://health101.org/art_B12_Bottom_Line.htm

And about Vitamin D

http://health101.org/art_cancer_vitamin_D.htm

On Smallpox and infectious disease.  If vaccines are so safe and good for you, then why is anyone associated with producing and administering a vaccine immune from lawsuits and prosecution?  A healthy immune system and clean lymphatic system is your best defense against infectious disease. 

http://health101.org/art_smallpox_part1.htm
http://health101.org/art_smallpox02.htm

On protein.  There is no reason for a vegan to be lacking in any essential amino acids.  They are adequately provided by plant based foods.  And I've met several vegan bodybuilders who are not lacking for protein. 

http://veganhealth.org/articles/protein

On omega 3 - think nuts and seeds (flax, hemp, chia).  Nuts and seeds are also good sources of amino acids.

http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/omega3

Bottom line, I choose to be vegan for my health, and animal welfare  and rights has been a benefit that I've come to appreciate and support since becoming vegan.  Research indicates that with a proper vegan diet I will not lack for any nutrients in a plant based diet.  My personal belief is that a plant based diet based on primarily raw fruit and vegetables will give my body the best chance for optimal health.

I encourage everyone to do what makes them happy and consume the diet that works best for them.  I'm not trying to preach or convert anyone to a plant based diet.

Quiet as it is kept, most annuals perform better in dappled sunlight (not shade) vs. full sun.  They were designed to grow as understory plants.  Hydroponics has detailed the photosaturation points of many plants and they vary and many are well below full sun light levels.  Photosaturation is when a plant stops photosynthesis due to too much light. 

Often people think plants wilt due to lacking water.  Often this isn't true.  It is photosaturation.  I have a pumpkin vine in part shade, part fun sun and at midday the shaded leaves are taut, the full sun ones wilted.  Water supply must be the same on a single vine.

Most annuals grown in full sun do not grow between 10am and 4pm because of this.  Permaculture design such as stacking, is one way to address this issue. 

Watermelon is at the range's high, growing well between 800-1500 micromoles and thus least susceptible to this issue.  But they will stop growing over 1500.  Full sun is 2000 micromoles.  Of course cloudy days drop light substantially and leaves below other leaves are partly shaded.

Your observation supports photosynthesis science.  Very few are aware of this.

If you think your 2 plants are an issue, consider an entire continent's mass farming designed this way.  Labour efficient (enables mechanical watering, spraying, picking etc.), natural resource inefficient. 

By the way, others observed annuals as among the least efficient and least ecosystem mature stage.  Mass farming annuals in isolation is ironically effort that keeps production low.  A tree will out produce an annual big time.  Annuals around the tree is even better...

Quote from: Future on July 30, 2017, 05:14:53 PM

From Thiago Campbell:

"Late Julie has a sweet lemony flavor with overtones of citrus. It is fiberless and a Julie seedling.

Fair One is a sweet Southeast Asian flavor, somewhere between a Thai and a Vietnamese mango. It is a cross between Edward and Carabao."

"Fair One" is a mango that already has a name : Wester. It is Edward x Earle #15 from David Sturrock's breeding program.

Relooked and they list Wester separately in the same sales email.

From Thiago Campbell:

"Late Julie has a sweet lemony flavor with overtones of citrus. It is fiberless and a Julie seedling.

Fair One is a sweet Southeast Asian flavor, somewhere between a Thai and a Vietnamese mango. It is a cross between Edward and Carabao."

 So does anyone know the source of Kryptonite?

I am fairly certain it is mono.  I drop her a note and she said she would relook.

Well said DL.  In Bermuda we have an unusually high deformed frog population. Too many or too few legs, eyes.  One theory is spraying abundance with more golf courses per square mile than any country on earth, roadside spraying and a relatively high water table.  It was temporarily banned by the government and now is back on the market in premixed form.  No sane person would argue it improves health.

Quote from: Future on July 25, 2017, 09:45:04 PM

PSM is poly.  And I am growing it and as many others I can get my hands on.  I applaud your effort.  Just think what came from PPK and the hole in this forum and my top 10 mangoes without it...Keen to see what polys you are growing.

I have learned a good deal from Chris and her generosity is expansive.  All these years I thought Fairchild was polyembryonic, until her recent video.  Today she posted Pickering is poly...which isn't what I thought.  Can anyone else confirm this?

I saw their great video on Pickering as well and it is listed as Polyembryonic, can anyone confirm.

Joe, I like your idea about planting seeds, I'm doing the same with both Polyembryonic and Monoembryonic varieties. I would like to get my hands on more Zill varieties to use as starting material but that is difficult to do here.

Simon

Simon: I see Pickering and others were queried some years ago: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2779.0

Seņorita a seedling of Madame Francis it's delicious

What's up JF!

 Not true to type?

I've known Chris for about 7 years and have never had a problem with my purchases.  We don't know (yet) if these fruit were discounted from their regular price or not.  I did buy some relatively green mangoes from here and Zills fruit stand, because I wanted to stretch consumption as long as possible over 3 weeks.  Did not have any significant issues. 

I will add it is easy for consumers to say what producers should do.  Takes almost zero time, expertise and effort.  As for doing it, well walk a mile in their shoes first...reminds me of some old overweight colleagues who were saying what a young fit athlete should have done on a particular play...ironic.

To be sure' I'm not saying Chris is perfect....but who is perfect?

Thank God no one was hurt.  Not making light of the setback...but it is a sign...having a legit OS...bull...