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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: LONGAN fruit for sale
« on: November 15, 2013, 02:36:27 PM »
Really wish you shipped. :/ I'd buy a bunch (yearly, for as long as you are growing them).


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edible Fruit Palm/Palms
« on: November 14, 2013, 08:02:28 AM »
I've never looked into growing any sort of palm, but you guys got me curious. The fruit looks amazing (as in, I'm gonna have to try some)! I happen to like eating heart of palm (veggie). For those curious, the Discovery channel did a "how it's made" on heart of palm here: http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/how-its-made/videos/how-its-made-heart-of-palm.htm


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Way off season longan bloom...2013
« on: November 13, 2013, 09:02:39 PM »
I'm jealous! -- I was finally able to pick up some longan at my local Asian market last week, and they were marked as having come from Florida. They seemed decently fresh... though a tad small. Does the quality improve when it's the "right" season?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anti-Gravity Longan Leaves?
« on: November 12, 2013, 04:12:57 PM »
Hah. :) Yeah I dunno why it was doing that, but it held that position for an entire day. It's starting to calm back down now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anti-Gravity Longan Leaves?
« on: November 11, 2013, 09:34:10 AM »
I decided to tether my longan that was at a bit of a slant. Implemented the tether last night... and this morning it started doing this:



Is that normal behavior? :P


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 10, 2013, 01:30:06 PM »
Agreed.

But it would still be neat to have a thread where all of us Cold Climaters could check in on the progress of our jacks. :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 07, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »
Sun's setting at 5:18 PM now. But I keep a grow light on my guys 9.5 hours a day.

As far as greenhouse verses not... I have a very pretty half-moon window in my bedroom. Unfortunately for me, when I don't have a shade in it, my room gets probably almost to 90 degrees in the summer months. So it's like my own little greenhouse courtesy of the sun. I finally put a shade in it last spring, but I may pull it out again so I can get extra warmth for my trees. -- I don't mind sleeping in here either. I'm sooo not a cold person. When I'm of retiring age, I will most certainly be headed south.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 07, 2013, 03:40:21 PM »
Hah. ;) Well, we should start a thread called "The Great Non-Tropical Jackfruit Race" and post progress. ;) I'm betting your trees are a lot bigger than mine! And hey... I may be farther north, but I think New York actually gets worse winters than we do here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:37:56 AM »
There has to have been someone that's done it before. I think you just gave me a personal challenge, none the less.  :)

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I'm with TriangleJohn -- up in a cold climate (Michigan), and my three longan seedlings were seed-grown. I can't tell you what type of longan they are, but they originate from Thailand.

I started them last December. They kept getting bigger until about... oh, March/April. Then when summer rolled around I tried putting them outside. They did OK, but they stopped growing. They also got a little wind damage, so I ended up trimming some of the leaves back. I brought them inside permanently in October and added some fertilizer to their soil. They've just started sprouting new branches and leaves. But at 11-months-old, the tallest of my longan is still only 7½". By comparison, I just measured my tallest jackfruit at 13", and they were only planted in September of this year.

I snapped these photos this morning:




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 04, 2013, 11:57:19 AM »
Did you mark which tree it was? Once it starts fruiting, are you planning on planting some of its seeds? I'd be interested to know if they yield a higher volume of twins. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 04, 2013, 10:14:47 AM »
Hah hah.  ;) Actually, I'm not really a pro-sports person. But If I were gonna be shouting out a supportive mantra, it would be: GO BLUE! :))

Yeah I realize it's gonna be tough to get them to produce up here, but I'm gonna give it my best shot! If the market is really there for it, and they produce true to what the guy says the fruits are like (which seem to not match any other cultivars out there = I dub these "Michiganian Thai," just to be contrary and fun!), I do know someone who owns a greenhouse. I may talk with them about allowing me to rent/use a small section. Also, I may be swapping a few seedlings with folks in warmer climates who might have a better shot at that than I will.  :)

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Thanks fruitlovers and HMHausman!

I opted to start with an organic fertilized potting soil which contains kelp and alfalfa meal. They have responded really well to it and are growing much faster than I had anticipated. :) I'll look into the slow release fertilizers for their next "feeding".


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Also, can we see a FAQ or "how to" on shipping seedlings?




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 03, 2013, 12:03:06 PM »
Wish we could figure out what cultivar they were. :) If they are what the guy says they are, then he doesn't know what he's got. Then again, he's only selling the seeds and not grafts. I wonder if it's just the fruits that are latexless, or if it's supposed to be the trees as well.


Edited to add photos of the growth progress. This is my biggest tree so far, at about a month and a half after sprouting.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees??
« on: November 03, 2013, 07:48:29 AM »
I planted every pot and there was really only one seed in each. I found a term yesterday that may describe the two from one: polyembryonic? Though, I can't find much reference to it happening in jackfruit. It seems more a mango phenomenon.

I'm definitely planning on raising these trees up to fruition (if that's possible to do indoors, in Michigan). If I do get them to produce, I don't have any issues with sussing out which has the best quality fruit. For me this is rather scientific, and I'm a bit nerdy about stuff like that. :) I'll keep you guys posted on the progress. And I would certainly be willing to do some grafting.



Edited to add: The girl in this video shows polyembryonism in mangoes (starting at around 2:49 or so). 
Grow many Mango Trees with one Seed - Mango Update Part II | Ep. 35

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jackfruit: One seed = Two trees?? - Update ^_^
« on: November 02, 2013, 10:24:11 AM »
So in September I received 32 seeds, which were described as latexless fresh Thai orange jackfruit with a description of sweet, crunchy and thick fruits.

I planted 32 seeds. I now have 33 trees? I mean, these two obviously are connected by the roots... but in all of my searching, I have yet to see two trees growing out of the same seed like this. Am I wrong? Is this common? Are they... "identical twins", if you will?

Edited to add: Is it possible that they both can and/or will survive being so close together?







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9)How do I fertilize my fruit tree?

Just what I was looking for... but there's no link? I was interested in the best fertilizers (preferably liquid) for jackfruit and longan seedlings.

Does anyone have any tips for me? Thanks in advance!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Had my first longan!!!
« on: October 18, 2013, 05:03:23 PM »
My wife always warns me not to eat to many longans because that is dangerous. You can get fever from eating to much.

Also eating longans makes me feel warm, maybe that's how the word "spicy" can be connected to longan?

I max. eat about 10-20 longans at the same time, that's enough for me. If they are overripe i don't like them anymore.

The Thais have a lot of strange beliefs about fruit eating that i think are mostly based on myth. They also believe if you mix alcohol with durian that you will die or get critically ill. But there is no evidence of that.

Well my wife says that if young children eat too many longans they will get blisters in their mouths and even can get fever from it.

If you have never heard of it then eat more longans untill you believe it.

I can't eat loads of longans myself, after 20 i 'm tired of them but maybe some other forummembers with Thai family can ask them to see what they respond.

People must have thought I was crazy when I was in Thailand then. I must have eaten over 60 in one sitting with no problem. I absolutely love them!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 18, 2013, 01:54:39 PM »
Welcome, Cassandra!  You sound about like me. . .we have a tropical fruit plant collection but nowhere to really house them.  We are getting a grow tent/light setup underway right now so hopefully they'll last thru the winter.
I also love jackfruit and have had similar experience with it - fresh/local stuff I had in South FL wasn't as good as the deep golden, super sweet stuff from the asian market in Nashville.

Indoor gardening in small spaces... Fun times! ;) I actually rather love having green in my room during the winter. All that white fluffy stuff and bare-leafed trees are depressing.

I'm not sure why fresh local stuff isn't tasting all that great. I wonder if that's a Cultivar/type issue, or just a matter of the fruit not being ripe enough. Maybe a little of both?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 18, 2013, 01:28:25 PM »
Nice to have you on the forum, Cassandra! I have never tried longan, but have a small seedling, your love of them makes me wish I had kept more! Good luck with the jackfruit (another fruit I have not tried), I hope they all do well! Jackfruit are fast growers, so I have heard, and can begin flowering after barely a year.

 
Patrick, I was first introduced to them while staying in a small village up in the northeastern region. I don't know why, but once I started eating them, I just couldn't stop. I think I bought out all the fruit the local market had, which was maybe a few pounds (I suspect that they were at the tail end of their season). Then I bought another large bag of them at Suvarnabhumi airport on my way out of the country. They were my sustaining food for the flight home, since I ended up with last picks for my choice of "airline meals". Some folks say it's sort of a coconuty flavor. I don't actually think so. They are unique. And as for jackfruit... have you ever had Juicy Fruit Gum? I've been told that jackfruit is where it gets its flavor from! Folks in Thailand don't typically let their fruits ripen (case in point, green papaya salad is a favorite dish over there). When I had jackfruit there, it was yellow and OK, but the flavor sort of reminded me of a banana. Then when I got back to the states, I found a huge chunk of jackfruit at a local Asian market, and the edible pieces had a deep orange color. I brought it home, and that was that. Favorite tropical fruit #2. My other favorite I have not attempted to grow here yet; mangosteen. Fresh, it's awesome. Aged... well, trying to cut through the shell/skin once it's browned is like trying to saw through a log. And unfortunately all the mangosteen I've found locally is the tough stuff. 

I'm glad to hear that jackfruit grow so fast. I don't know what species of jackfruit I ended up with. The seed retailer just said the fruit is deep orange, sweet, thick and crunchy, with very little fibery membrane, and supposedly it's also "latexless". I personally didn't mind the latex. I actually thought it'd be cool to utilize the latex into materials for making art.

Good luck with your longan seedling! :) I hope you get some fruit from it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: October 18, 2013, 12:08:17 PM »
Hi, my name is Cassandra. I'm not in the greatest climate (zone 5B) for growing tropical fruit trees, but after I spent 6 weeks in Thailand last fall, I fell in love with a few! My favorites were longan. I planted a few seeds after I returned to the states and I now have three beautiful little longan trees. They seemed to do OK outside during the summer months, but I really think they prefer the indoors here because of some issues we have with high winds in their outdoor space. The other fruit I just love is jackfruit! I ended up receiving 32 seeds last month and thought, what the heck, I'll try planting. 31 out of the 32 have sprouted, and the most robust already have leaves on them. If they keep growing at this pace, the will soon be taller than my year-old longan!

Ideally, I would love to own a small greenhouse for them all, but that's just not possible in my location. I have all my trees on a large table in my room with a grow light suspended above them. I dunno how long this setup will last, depending on how tall the jackfruit get. I've brought in a heater, which I normally do for the winter, so this room should be at a minimum in the 70's.

I am here mainly because I have never grown anything tropical beyond these guys and I need all the pointers I can get.

Nice to meet you all!




P.S. Yes, I even have a Thai pepper plant in the mix now too. :)

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