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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat recommendation
« on: March 30, 2018, 07:55:01 AM »
I picked up a Champaign yesterday with fruit on it. I really liked it, very sweet. I also picked up a Sherry and the fruit was tart but good. My GN and Big Al haven't fruited yet and the big tree in my yard is so so tasting. I say go for it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best practices after a fire?
« on: March 26, 2018, 08:07:49 AM »
Thankfully despite all the wild fires that regularly strike my area, this hasn't come up for me so I am just spit balling here. Just make sure they stay watered and add a nitrogen rich fertilizer(N is for leaves right?)

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What I have done over the years was both shoot and fence. I put around deer sensitive trees  simple fence barrier. Some trees deers don't really care about so can be skipped. It isn't fool proof as bucks apparently do not care one way or the other when it comes to a tree to rub its antlers on thus destroying said tree. I have taken a lot of mango, lychee and sugar apple damage that way. But on the other hand, they wont eat those same trees. Same with loquat. The don't eat it but love to use them as a scratching post.  Trees I find they eat the hell out of are apple, citrus, plum, mulberry. Mulberry isn't a big loss, as it seems to bounce back bigger and bushier with more fruit than before, think of it as natural pruning. The other two are more disastrous as they are very slow growing. I use simple 4 foot wire fencing and try and get a good distance around the tree. To make life easier I fill the area inside the fence with mulch.

At night when I come home later I will often drive into the yard hoping not to see eyes looking back at me. When I do I go inside, grab my shotgun loaded with birdshot and go hunting. Wife calls me Elmer Fudd. Bird shot will sting them but wont penetrate their thick hide at the ranges I am shooting them. I have been hit at that range on bare skin and aside from going "ouch ouch ouch, hot hot hot" I had no other reaction except to yell at my dad for shooting in my general direction. Thankfully(or not) we have had a large group of coyote enter the neighborhood as well as more frequent panther sightings and I have seen a correlating reduction of deer sightings. Unfortunately have also lost our resident turkey population I always enjoyed watching stroll across the yard.

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I am going out of town for about 8 months during the warm/hot season. Last year on my mangoes we had bad weevil infestations as the primary bad guy affecting mine and my neighbor's mangoes and a few other trees. Hoping this continually cold weather will kill a bunch of those off, still 33 in the morning here in east Orlando. My in ground mangoes are recovering from the hard freezes of this year and have only recently sprouted new leaves mostly from the trunks. What kind of long term root drench can I use before I leave to kill off any weevils in the ground? Preferably something I can get off amazon or ebay.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Low chill apple trees
« on: March 05, 2018, 08:02:27 AM »
I am in Northern Central FL in between Orlando and Cocoa and I have both and while I get a couple apples from each, apples are easily one of the slowest growing group of trees I have. Dorsett I believe comes from Jamaica(or maybe its Anna) and should eeek along like mine does. But don't expect anything great or massive. I am curious as to how this past winter's cold will improve things.

Two others you may want to check out that have been more productive than Anna and Dorsett for me are Tropic Sweet and Emshimer. Both are slightly more vigourous and have gotten more apples off them in three years than I have gotten off my A and Ds combined in 6.

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Miracle fruit not low maintenance? Are you joking? Aside from olives, its the best no maintenance shrub out there. Have had one for years in a half barrel pot half under an overhanging eave. I rarely even water the thing. Took the 20s weather we had a month back and didn't even lose a leaf.

Pickering Mango is a good call, you want a good sized pot or self root pruning pot though.

Fig of whatever variety you want, does take quite a bit of water.

Maybe a Barbados cherry in a good sized pot?


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Several weeks later, damage is still pretty bad.
Jackfruit, despite being covered fried and the branches snap fairly easy. I think they are toast.
Mangoes are still iffy.
Sweet tart while losing all of its leaves and branches snap fairly easy, has new growth coming out from the trunk.
Lemon Zest rubbing the bark shows green so I think it will come back.
Cotton Candy lost the upper 2/3rds but bottom third has green leaves.
Graham lost all leaves and I haven't rubbed bark to see if its green under.

Barbados cherry no sign of life
Sugar Apples(all types) no signs of life. (not unexpected since they normally lose leaves for winter anyway)
Melon Berry, raison tree, che, ice cream bean, java plum, moringa, pintanga, pitangatuba, all gauavas except Lemon(no damage at all), African Sausage, carambola, mountain annonna, black sapote, no signs of life

Other trees that lost all leaves but have new shoots:
Jamun, white sapote, wax jambu, all Jaboticabas,


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Also much more sensitive to cold weather. I lost two sugar apples/annona to the cold this year and am hoping my remaining ones come back.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Pecan Trees
« on: February 17, 2018, 09:05:27 PM »
With the cold having killed off a good chunk of my tropicals, I was thinking on more temp hardy trees. I grew up on an island in GA with 50 foot tall pecan trees all over the place that were completely without any sort of care. Any advice on keeping them here in central Florida? My local Tractor supply has a couple varieties I was going to grab.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 16, 2018, 04:54:56 PM »
My sap issues are on the lower trunk so chopping it isnt going to help I think.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 16, 2018, 08:37:52 AM »
Same problem on my Lemon Zest. I saw several spots that looked like brownish red bubbles appearing to be sap. We had temps in the upper 20s for several nights. Not a single green leaf on them currently but scratching the bark reveals green. Spray it with neem?

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While I have a bunch of those listed I cant comment on the taste since they haven't fruited for me yet and it looks like the cold did a number on mine so I probably wont.

As for ordering trees, I really like Top Tropicals although I have observed to take their descriptions with a grain of salt. But service itself has always been really good for me.

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I am still hoping its just the leaves that are burnt and the trees will come back. I know my last try on mangos years ago had one freeze to the ground so I pulled it and placed it in the back 40 in the land that I dont really do much in. It has come back although its a bush not a tree. It seems to not have cared about the recent cold either.

@John, I dont think any of us have issues in the warm weather here aside from the damn weevils. Its the cold that suddenly kicked our butts.

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One of my in grounds was completely fried despite my mulching and blankets. My Sweet tart was mostly fried although it has some green on the interior. My cotton candy being small had a good number of lower leaves covered in mulch and they are still green but the upper 3/4 of the tree is fried. My Graham next to it is in the same boat as the sweet tart. My potted ones in the garage of course were fine and like everyone else, one of them has blooms.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 23, 2018, 03:39:38 PM »
I dont doubt you but I have never heard of wood alcohols being an issue in fermented drinks and one of my groups I belong to makes a lot of home brewed drinks. :P


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 23, 2018, 07:49:00 AM »
Are they distilling it or fermenting it? If fermenting then wood alcohol wouldn't be an issue. With the skins and seeds I would be more worried about contaminations, fungal blooms, or just bad tastes getting into it. If they are distilling it then hopefully they know not to take the first ten percent or so.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:05:46 PM »
With mead unless you live near a bread factory it probably wont ferment on its own. A friend of mine experimented with this exact thing and failed until he set up his must at his friend who lived near a bakery. The result was horrible though. Plus buying yeast specifically grown for specific types of brewing gives a far superior product in both taste and alcohol content. Besides, they are like 3 bucks or less a packet for a consistent product.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 18, 2018, 08:55:01 AM »
Mead is stupidly easy to make at its base level. Spring water, honey, boil them together while stirring. Sift out the impurities if you want(some people say not to) after boiling add the ingredients or during depending, after it cools down considerably add yeast. Let it age. I would never let a mead age for less than a year and mine are usually for two or more. Chocolate meads need a good couple years. Polish great meads literally require minimum of 3 years. Reminds me I need to start an elderberry one before I deploy so the active phase is done with.

Honey obviously affects sweetness. The more honey, the sweeter it is. Polish great meads are half water to half honey all the way up to  1/4 water and 3/4 honey in the initial ferment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chilly Florida AM
« on: January 18, 2018, 08:35:37 AM »
27 here in east Orlando. Glad I remounded most of my trees that needed it. In the process I discovered inner branches that still had green leaves on several of them that were under the mounds previously. No frost which was nice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: hard freeze /arctic blast for New Orleans
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:37:07 AM »
Your lychee should be ok. I know mine took the upper 20s and heavy frost unprotected a couple weeks ago like champs. Longon near them did the same thing while a nearby black sapote got beaten down. My white sapote in the open yellowed a bit but seems fine otherwise. I know you guys will get a little colder than us.

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Lychee are ok. With these cold weather spells supposedly going to get worse as the years go by due to sun activity I would say no to the other two. Loquats though are a great  low maintenance tree that both look good and have good fruit. Despite the cold I have had good luck with key lime also.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fermenting tropical fruits into alcohol
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:42:18 AM »
Mulberry mead is as close as I have come so far although that was half the reason I started doing this in the first place. Once I swap out some trees I will have better fruit for this. I currently have 5gal chocolate mead and a 1gal Polish Great mead working on their 4th year of aging :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: hard freeze /arctic blast for New Orleans
« on: January 16, 2018, 02:38:26 PM »
I feel your pain despite being in central Florida. This last blast kicked my trees in the nuts. I need to pull my potted ones for this new one tonight. If nothing comes back I have right around 40% loss at this point of around 100 trees. I too am thinking cooler weather trees too as scientists are predicting a low sun activity period for the next couple decades meaning much cooler weather for awhile.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulching for New Orchard - Good or Bad?
« on: January 10, 2018, 02:12:13 PM »
Curious, are your trees up on mounds or do you really have that much mulch piled up against the trunks?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cleanup after the freeze in Orlando area
« on: January 10, 2018, 07:55:52 AM »
At this point, aside from covering the mangoes again and mounding their bases in hopes of mitigation I cant see more damage being done than has already been inflicted.

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