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Had no problem with TT and I will order from them again. I do recommend doing your own research and not using their descriptions as gospel. I have had none of the problems LivinginParadise has had.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shocking! Watch for yourself
« on: July 31, 2017, 07:47:08 AM »
He had some good points but yeah mostly propaganda. I mean really, terminal cancer and they switched to a total vegan diet for a few weeks and it was all cleared up? Why didn't we know it was that simple?

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I am interested in one of these. In case we are close, what city are you in or near? Everyone's definition of central FL is different. There's one dude in Vero who considers him in central florida and I consider that south Florida with Tampa being the border of Central FL and South Florida. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: beyond muggy
« on: July 28, 2017, 10:16:49 AM »
We finally got a nice steady rain for about 30 minutes yesterday. But yeah, this week has been especially rough. I get home from work and I go inside. Cant really do any of my outdoor stuff, even my garage hobbies. Sucks as I have three trees to plant this weekend as well as some roof work.

Knowing I had a ripe Surinam cherry I walked to the side yard to get it before the raccoons or possums did and while it was incredibly sweet, I question whether it was worth the effort since just that brief walk at 6pm even had me sweating through my clothes. I love the rain and we need more desperately to overcome two years of drought in the ground water but I am afraid this is but a prelude to August. Even in the downpours, I still have no puddles in the low spots in the yard unlike years before when some spots would go thigh deep and submerge one of my lychee tree's bases under a foot of water for a week.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop and Guava
« on: July 17, 2017, 07:53:44 AM »
In 9b as well. There are a few in my neighborhood I have learned about on our gardening FB page. My neighbor across the street has a fairly large one in ground he doesn't live there to protect. I am going to get some seeds from it I think and grow one myself when I replace yet another citrus tree.

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I would be happy with a good tasting, cold hardy variety that those dang weevils don't like.

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I have pretty low luck with citrus and am gradually removing them when they become too much of an eyesore and I have something to replace them. Very much a case of new home owner, excited to have room for fruit trees and figuring that "Hey, its Florida!" 100+ fruit trees and 5 years later I am down to 9 citrus trees with 3 on a short list for removal.

Mangos do well here. I have 2 in pots, Mahanchok(sp?), and a Pickering, then a Cotton Candy, Graham, Sweet tart, and lemon zest in the ground. I got fruit this year of the Graham and Pickering. I had flowers on the ST and LZ, but before I realized it, like literally overnight, those damn grey and orange weevils got to them and devastated the flowers and really hurt the LZ's leaves before I got rid of them. I still find the occasional weevil on my persimmon and all spice trees. For some weird reason they ignored my graham and pickering, although a deer tore up the Graham pretty bad, it still ended up with a lone fruit. Most of my mangos have a modicum of protection being in full sunlight but under the overhanging branches of oaks or pine trees. While it might not be the best protection, they weathered the light frosts we had the past two years with no problem. My sugar apple is under the same protection and it does great.

The Cotton candy is too recently planted to gauge anything about it. It hasn't even put out its first flush yet but seems to be happy. My LZ which got messed up from the weevils is finally recovering and is hardening its first successful flush. While the weevils screwed up the flowers on my ST, they don't seem to mess with the leaves and it is starting its 3rd flush of the season and has gained about a foot and a half of height. The container trees aren't near as vigorous. The graham is still recovering from the deer attack and is growing oddly, I might have to do some bonsai work to make it look like a normal tree again.

I am east of Orlando just past Bithlo. Listening to Adam talk about his weather over at his nursery, we get completely different weather from the northern Orlando area. Not surprising though since our rainfall record is completely different as well. for example, I had to go water my container and newly planted stuff yesterday and if we don't get any rain this afternoon I am going to have to go run the irrigation system. Havent had rain since Saturday.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good coconut for north Florida ?
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:33:02 AM »
I wasn't aware guavas were super cold sensitive. We have tons of them here in central Florida. Mine haven't had an issue with the minor freezes we have had the last couple years. I would rate a coconut far more susceptible. That said my neighbor and I both have them in different places. He has his in ground around one of his ponds and a few other places in his 10 acre yard. I bought one cheap at HD and figured it didn't hurt to give it a try. This past winter was a joke aside from a really quick freeze, literally I went to the gym at 0430 and no frost, wife left at 0630 and scraped it off her window. Nothing was brought in and the coconut in the open was fine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thermal mass
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:26:22 AM »
Has anyone tried using piles of mulch? I had a four foot pile in my yard "composting"(ie. I would get to it at some point) and the heat radiated off the pile. I don't know who crawled around on giant saw dust piles as kids(yeah I now know that was dangerous) and sledded down them, but they were always hot. So I wonder if placing good sized piles of mulch under trees would accomplish a thermal source that would rise and keep the tree above it warm? Obviously not up against the tree itself although I hear mounding around the trunk is a thing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jujube fruit shriveling prematurely
« on: June 29, 2017, 03:26:03 PM »
Im wondering if it was too much watering in my case. We went from no rain and irrigation 3x a week to heavy rains every day for a week straight and then every other day. Before the rains mine had heavy fruit set., After, not so much.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: jujube fruit shriveling prematurely
« on: June 29, 2017, 01:21:03 PM »
Actually mine did the same thing this year. I had a lot of fruits for once and they got to about pinky thickness but never changed to yellowish orange and then just shriveled into nothing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good coconut for north Florida ?
« on: June 29, 2017, 09:53:00 AM »
Don't think there is one although there might be one that's more cold hardy than others perhaps?

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Hey Shot, I am curious since I have never seen it sold before, what does an average jackfruit sell for by the pound?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Magashimi mango
« on: June 21, 2017, 01:38:41 PM »
Dude, TT is THE authority when it comes to fruit trees. You are just jealous.

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Not an expert by any means but I will tell you what I know. Buy them as eggs or one or two day old chicks and keep them dry as getting them wet can kill them apparently although obviously they need water to drink. bring them to their home as soon as you/they can as they will bond to the area. The trick I heard is after the chick stage keep them in a coop for a few weeks to get used to the area and let them out a little each day. They will range about a quarter mile from their coop. You can keep them in a coop at night or not. Obviously if you have predators in the area you will have casualties but GF are quite a bit tougher than chickens when it comes to predators. My neighbor keeps his free at night every now and then until my other neighbor complained they were following his around and walking on their mustang. We have bobcats, raccoons and possums and he didn't have issues but has had regular chickens killed off when accidently left out. They are quite loud and are clearly audible from my garage 250 yards away.

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If I were doing what you are doing Guineafowl would be an early purchase. They produce eggs which are supposedly good eating(I don't eat eggs but my neighbor loves GF eggs), pretty good meat, will keep your farm clear of pests from the get go and act as an alarm system. The from the get go part is important since you don't want to wait to have a problem then order the fowl and wait for 6-8 weeks for them to be old enough to wander around meanwhile your trees are getting devastated by weevils and other pests. That damnable grey with orange striped weevil can strip a four foot mango tree in a matter of days if you aren't paying attention.

You are going to want a light tractor after the initial scaping is done. There is a lot to be said for being able to carry large amounts of dirt, fertilizer, limbs, etc that doing it by hand will get old and back breaking very fast. I think you overestimate the amount of compaction that will occur. Its not like everyone will be driving back and forth in your tree alleys in heavy trucks. At a minimum you will want one of those 4 wheel drive off road golf cart/Gators and a decent trailer for it. All of my neighbors have 2-10 acres and have smaller john deere tractors for everything from putting holes in the ground for trees to bush hogging and grass cutting.

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I am no expert by a long shot and I grow as a hobby not as a source of income but I have read on this subject extensively and know quite a few things I would change on my limited 2 acre property that I would do if I had to start over.  You are in PR correct? You have sizable land available to buy? You can grow almost anything. I don't know how big you are planning. First off, before you worry about methodology, you need to figure out who is your market and what actually sells. Are you selling in a farmers market, are you selling in stores? I have been to PR but I was on a mission so didn't get near as much time to look at markets or trees. The reason this matters is you want to maximize what actually sells vs what you can grow. This then will determine your methodology on how to go about growing. If you know something is kind of rare but when it shows up it is a big seller then maybe devote a decent portion of your land to this. I would make the majority of the property your bread and butter tree(s). There's usually a reason something is rare and you don't want to base your entire crop on it. Therefore having a bread and butter tree will ensure you have a product that will sell and will reliably grow in quantity in your climate. If you have a big enough property, you will have enough space to try multiple different methodologies then based on the trees involved. If you have a shade loving crop tree, then awesome try the SALT method.  Then if you wish to live off the land, have an acre or so for growing ground crops specifically for you, I have heard a garden needs to be a half acre a person so there you go.


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Got one as well. It grows pretty decent. No flowers this year. If it doesn't taste good, oh well, I'll wait before removing it, I have too long a list of "To Be removed" as it is to worry about a tree that's actually doing well.

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Ponds. Have fun with it. If I had that sized area I would have several ponds connected by some smaller canals with large overhanging trees providing shade on them with stone foot bridge crossings. Use the dirt to fill in low areas elsewhere or large mounds for trees that don't like as much water and make a small waterfall elsewhere using a water pump. Then work out from there. The whole trail idea sounds like a winner but again, you will need to decide whether you want an orchard or a food park as the undergrowth is going to drive you nuts even on a couple acres if you cant mow it.  Then again, with that amount of sized land you can easily do both. There are some fruit trees that like being near river edges. My neighbor across the street has only 10 acres and he has 4 different small ponds, two surrounded by different water loving fruit trees.

You definitely have room for both a fun area and a more serious orchard area that is designed for easier upkeep and you want easy upkeep for the majority of it. Thankfully irrigation is a non issue. My neighbor has a hard time taking care of just his ten acres and has had to hire someone to help a few times a week. Unless this is going to be a full time job for you, you need to consider this as well. Invest in a good mower. Don't be in a rush to fill the area up at once. For pollination reasons you might consider certain areas for certain tree types. Mangoes I imagine get pretty tall there. Maybe make one corner your mango corner and start with one at the edge of the property and start planting inward.

Another thing I personally always wanted to do was to walk through a mature allspice orchard. I have heard the smell when surrounded and under the canopies of dozens of allspice trees is amazing. Cant do that on my dinky 2 acres. 

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I have a lot of weird stuff I grow in 9B Florida with mixed results. I have two Texas Persimmons and have had them for years and the biggest one is still barely 8" tall. I have a Mexican Plum tree which does and looks great in the spring and then deteriorates as the hot weather really moves in, but its now about 9' tall. All spice does fairly well but the deer and the other bugs love it. I have a Japanese Raisin and so far its doing fine after an extended dormancy period over winter when some deer ate all of the leaves. I have a melonberry which seems to be doing ok but once again, as it gets leaves the deer swarm it and promptly remove them.

My favorite weird tree is my African Sausage tree which I started as seeds from Silverhill(I think) and got one. It is a beast. I planted it last spring at about 18" and maybe as wide as my pinky. Its currently 8' tall, likely hitting 9 or 10 feet in the next week as I topped it and I have four new shoots going up. Each shoot grouping gains it a foot to a foot and a half, the base s now 6" wide easy. I used a lot of dirty sand in my mounding which I got out of the canal behind the house and when I planted it I raked up several buckets worth of canal seaweed and general muck and put them over the top of the mound before I put down mulch.

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An mango I picked up years ago that got hit hard by two successive frosts. I was still new at trees so I didn't give up hope and just planted the dead stump in the back 40 out of the way of everything. Lo and behold, spring comes and so do new leaves. I doubt it will ever get tree like in shape or have any hope the mangos will be any good since growth is coming up below the graft but its fun watching it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good fruit set on sugar apple.
« on: June 07, 2017, 07:59:46 AM »
My trees are alternative year bearing. Two years ago I got a ton. Last year not a one. This year looks pretty good so far, a few small fruits and a ton of flowers. I have not noticed any pollinators but I am out here in the country with another fruit orchard across the street plus my own 100+ various trees so there are a load of various flying insects all over the place.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rain...
« on: June 06, 2017, 11:08:26 PM »
Yay rain. I suddenly discover my roof leaks since there hasnt been rain for like a year and a half to notice. Then pull down the soffett to get a look at the leak and get mud and insulation dumped on me. Note this is all at the tail end of the storm. Then I go to wash the yuck off and no water. My well pump burned out on me. Well dude guessed there was a lightning strike nearby. When it rains it pours.

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Just my thinking here but if you can grow mango and papaya wthout problems, then coconut shouldn't be an issue. I don't know if altitude will affect this but I grow coconut in 9b in FL and it grows like a weed the last couple years I have had it, note I haven't had fruit yet either. I also grow mango and papaya although my papaya is protected by the house.

My question would be isn't fungus growing on the mangos in that wet/humid an environment an issue or do you guys just have cultivars that are highly resistant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I hope this works **sigh**
« on: May 18, 2017, 10:54:52 AM »
Very nice. I didn't get any flowers this year from my lychees. Lots of nice flushes of new leaves, especially from the big one I pruned but no flowers :(I think it was the lack of cold weather and drought.

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