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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First confirmed Jumbo Kesar in SoCal?
« on: September 11, 2020, 02:57:48 AM »
Will be interested too as to how well the jumbo kesar is.  I am assuming though that it will be extremely  fibrous near the seed like regular kesar (imported from India), making it less enjoyable in eating the ďmeatĒ around the seed.  For this reason, I havenít really focused too much on kesar or jumbo kesar,  but on other varieties like Son Pari, which I felt were on par with the flavor profile of kesar, but without the fibrous area near the seed.  Maybe a CA grown jumbo kesar wonít have that much fiber around the seed due to SoCal soil/fertilizer conditions.  Waiting to hear your friendís report.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 47-18
« on: July 14, 2020, 09:48:12 AM »
This an atemoya?  What else can you tell us about it?

From another post:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wood shaving in potting mix?
« on: July 14, 2020, 05:49:39 AM »
If you listen to Laguna Hills Nursery (videos on YouTube), you shouldnít use any wood products (compost) in potting soil. 
Iíve just started to trial this recommendation, which is basically contrary to the entire Ag industry (potting soil companies). 
Iím using 50% peat moss and 50% pumice (alternate equivalent coarse perlite is easier to get than crushed pumice) for potting soil.  There is another potting soil mixture of 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 crushed pumice (or coarse perlite), and 1/3 sand, charcoal, and clay that results in less compaction over time.
btw... they recommend sand as the best growing media, but that weighs a ton.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bombay Mango
« on: July 12, 2020, 12:10:32 PM »
Bombay is mono.   Sometimes you will get multiple sprouts from the single seed.  If you were to dig the seed up, you would see that the Bombay seed has no separate embryo sections.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buttercream being a good rootstock
« on: June 07, 2020, 05:50:44 PM »
Buttercream was reported as poly...but I only see one sprout.

You should also ask if they are certified to ship to CA.  CA has strict regulations on incoming plants.  Hate to see your plants getting confiscated entering CA.  Good luck!

Unfortunately, buying a Glenn seedling is NOT really recommended since Glenn is a monoembrionic (Resulting seedling not being identical to parent) variety and any seedling will be a new variety (could be worse or better, but likely worse).
Buying a LZ seedling comes with a good chance that it will be true to type since LZ is polyembrionic (yields 1 zygote and the rest clones).
Peach Cobbler is monoembrionic, so any seedling of Peach Cobbler will NOT be identical to its parent.

In general, the planted (in ground) seedling will grow fairly strong, often better than grafted varieties on turpentine rootstock. Contrary to what the seller said, although it may fruit in year is better if you wait a year longer and sometimes more.  Fruiting while the tree is young will stunt the trees growth and may even kill it.

Thank you Alex for the scions!  Excellent scion quality and packaging.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CA PSA Pharaoh moth on cherimoyas.
« on: November 15, 2019, 07:20:40 PM »
Thatís wild Brad.  Kind of creepy too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California grown mango harvests
« on: September 07, 2019, 12:15:39 AM »
Good crop considering the age of your trees.
You got quite a bit of OS, considering it hasnít been distributed that long in SoCal.
Wish you could have saved some for the October events.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Guava
« on: September 06, 2019, 11:41:36 PM »
A friend informed me that he has a similar guava that he got from a Taiwanese nurseryman, but couldnít tell me the variety name either. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to increase yield on Lemon Zest Mango?
« on: September 06, 2019, 10:53:18 PM »
I only got 2 fruit from LZ on Manila rootstock that is 4 years old.  This is the first year it ever fruited.  I spray with 2 types of fungicides.  Most leaf/flower damage is encountered in Feb Thru June. I never get PM (powdery mildew) after a combo of heat and humidity (Aug) seem to be necessary for good leaf growth and survival from PM, at least for our socalírs.  If we canít get LZ to work in socal, I may try to switch to Orange Sherbert.

I would also like to know how Orange Sherbet, Orange Essence, Seacrest and other newer Zill varieties perform here in SoCal. I donít have the real Orange Sherbet but I do have multiple Orange Sherbet seedlings.

From one of my Orange Sherbet seeds, I got two sprouts. I grafted scions from each seedling onto my double rootstock  multigraft potted mango tree and one of the OS seedlings flowered this year. This is just an OS seedling, I donít know if this is a clone or not, but whatever it is, the blooms were not affected by Powdery Mildew and it set a fruit. I just removed the fruit yesterday and the sap smells just like Orange Sherbet fruit turpenes. Hereís a picture of the fruit before I removed it. You can see how small the scion is.


For in ground trees...
Seacrest on turpentine is a vigorous tree in SoCal.  Even more vigorous than Seacrest is Ambrosia on turpentine.  Canít comment on Orange Sherbert....but I did lose an in-ground tiny OS, but not sure why.
Still waiting 1 more year before fruiting.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got Macadamia Nuts?
« on: April 24, 2019, 11:32:58 PM »
I donít have macadamia nuts yet... plan to put one in on my front island flower bed as center piece so it can grow large, the flowers are ornamental and smell great supposedly

Do you know which cultivars have the pink flowers?


Beaumont is the variety with pink flowers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 Indian Mango Season
« on: April 15, 2019, 07:49:50 PM »
Hello All,

I have been calling Pioneer cash and carry in Artesia all day looking for Indian Mango.  Does anyone know if they are currently carrying any?  I want to buy some

Yes.  They were there last weekend at the larger store on 183rd street.  Alphonso, Banganpali, and Rajapuri for $35/box.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2019 Indian Mango Season
« on: April 14, 2019, 01:38:56 AM »
In Artesia, my friend reported those same varieties to be $35/box.

Does lemon meringue produce well here? What are the heaviest producing zill varieties?

In CA...Generally no without spraying with fungicides.  Lemon meringue (aka PPK...which is not a Zillís creation) and itís offspring Lemon Zest are powdery mildew magnets.  We are still trialing the offspring orange sherbert, but I would imagine it would have the same PM problem.

The heaviest producing newer Zillís varieties has been Sweet Tart.  Some have had good luck with Coconut Cream, but not me.  Overall, I havenít heard of any newer Zillís varieites being heavy producers.  Most have been classified as low to moderate at best.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 21, 2019, 11:50:24 PM »
Is this a truly seedless guava? I am very interested to know how it tastes.

You might have enough fruits to try them on different stages of ripeness and decide which one you like. I did that with my guava.

Youíll probably get 6-12 seeds in each fruit.   That constitutes seedless in my book.
The seeds are small and donít bother me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Crystal Guava When to pick?
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:04:08 PM »
For crunchy texture, pick when it just transitions from darker green to a lighter green.  It will be lightly sweet, but refreshing. 
If you let it go longer (even lighter green with red streaks), it will be even sweeter, but lose a lot of itís crunchiness.
Right now, I would consider your fruit in the picture as ready to pick for good crunchy texture with light sweetness.
You must be experiencing a later crop, as most of my crystals were gone well over a month ago.

Here are pics of moderate crunchy, moderate sweet (overripe to Xue):

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bubble gum flavored Cherimoya?
« on: March 09, 2019, 04:58:38 PM »
I had a couple Cherimoyas (from the South Coast Cherimoya sale) that tasted like bubble gum and they were by far the best I've had recently.  (My trees have been launguishing in pots so I haven't gotten fruit yet.)

Which varieties have that flavor or similar strong fruity flavor?

Iíve been told by JF that Booth cherimoya has this bubble gum flavor profile.

Coconut Cream
Old Seedling peachy
Orange sherbert
Nam Doc Child
White Angel

Never heard of White Angel mango.  Anyone have info on it?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Todayís Harvest from the orchard
« on: November 20, 2018, 11:49:51 PM »
Kang, I will clear all the native vegetation around the orchard to keep fire risk down.  And cover the fence line in vines and exterior shade trees to block the wind.

Things actually come out pretty well here.  Still getting harvests like this one from today.

Nice harvest Brad !

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: November 20, 2018, 11:40:37 PM »
Nice find Simon ...easily over $50 worth of fruit at todayís market prices.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 SoCal mango tasting
« on: November 20, 2018, 11:36:07 PM »
Hi everyone! Was there or will there be a 2018 SoCal mango tasting event? I'm in L.A. zone 9b and just getting started with growing mangoes. I have so much to learn and would LOVE the opportunity to try some varieties that do well here!!

2018 tasting cancellation was due to the significant loss of fruit caused by the July 6th heatwave.
This was one of the poorest years for mango fruit production in SoCal.

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