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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get Indian mangos around LA?
« on: November 02, 2018, 11:31:05 PM »
There are unfortunately no Indian mangos in season in CA stores.  The season of imported Indian mangos is April-May timeframe.  The only mangos the Artesia stores may carry in November are imported Ataulfos (probably from South America).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is the Bowen Mango a good variety?
« on: September 25, 2018, 12:35:04 AM »
Bowen-Kensington Pride is a good mango, but can't match up to the newer Zills varieties.
I tried KP only once.  Felt it was a typical classic mango flavor...good, but little to no complexity compared to other newer Zills varieties.

Was surprised to see a large crowd.  Had a fun time.

Crystal seedless guava...A short bushy tree...but yields a lot of fruit.  Xue made this tree for me and I finally got it planted in the ground this year.
Well worth it.  Xue always delivers great quality scions too.

There are two rootstocks that seem to do well in Southern California, Manila and Ataulfo.
Upright growth (less leggy growth) and higher resistance to certain fungal diseases have been observed with these 2 rootstocks in SoCal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anybody have Brander Mango or more info on it?
« on: September 17, 2018, 11:05:12 PM »
Just saw a Sulcata Grove YouTube video on Brander Mango.
Anyone have this mango variety or info on it?  Although it didn't score high marks from Sulcata, I am still interested and curious, as this is the only mango I know with an apple/applesauce flavor profile.   I'm not sure of the accuracy of the information on the Internet, but it may originate from Southeast Asia.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sienta Lone Mango
« on: September 17, 2018, 07:49:08 PM »
Behl... I believe I got our scions from dongeorgio. USDA lost their tree if I recall correctly from my email conversations with Mike W at USDA.
It seems to be a vigorous grower with larger spacing between nodes.
Maybe will get fruit next year.  Lost quite a bit of foliage on the 7/06 heatwave.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: September 13, 2018, 01:34:03 AM »
My M4 has been going gang busters. and no, its not showing any signs of droopiness, at least as of yet, in ground for 1 year. I will be in-arching it this weekend with a seedling that is a mono and very vigorous.  its in the same hole that has in-arched butter cream and in-arched orange essence.

my in-arched peach cobbler that was droopy now is shooting big fat straight shoots, it was in-arched 2-yrs ago.

What does "in-arched" mean?

This article describes inarching:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 12, 2018, 08:30:51 AM »
Not sure if I should keep pruning the rootstock suckers or let them grow with an eye for the future.

Good stuff

You should probably cut all the rootstock suckers.  The bud sport(s) that they are referring to do not emanate directly from the rootstock.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Punch baby mangoes... really red.
« on: September 07, 2018, 01:18:40 AM »
Ice looking Fruit Punch Warren. Let us know how it tastes. They have been pretty average tasting the last couple years.



Fruit punch was very Kent like (In a good way), but with pineyness near the skin.
Kind of similar to Ugly least for me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Just had a perfect Little Gem mango
« on: September 04, 2018, 10:10:09 PM »
I believe that little gem is descended from the Julie. Has the same type of flavor as Graham and Juliette.

I have it noted as MAYBE a hybrid of Julie and Gary.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Punch baby mangoes... really red.
« on: September 02, 2018, 02:48:12 AM »
Thanks for the photo Warren. Mine should be ripe any day now. Itís about 2/3 red. Do you pick and eat or lick and let sit for a few days?

I let it sit a few days at room temperature until it softens slightly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit Punch baby mangoes... really red.
« on: September 01, 2018, 06:28:20 PM »
So what are they supposed to look like when ripe or when it is best to pick?

This is a picture of mine last week. The whitish residue is from spraying surround wp a month ago.

Fully ripe FP now.

Is admission free for 9/20?

I asked and this is what they said:
People may sign in as guests...for a couple of free complimentary meetings.
We (OC CRFG) would love to meet you.

You can also sign up as a member: $35 annual dues.
After the meeting, we have the best refreshment table and everyone visits and shares.

Is admission free for 9/20?

I really am not sure on admission.
Perhaps an OC CRFG member can chime in.
They sent me a website link, but it doesn't say.

Which grows true to seed, poly or mono?

Poly...all sprouts are clones, except for one which is zygotic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Garden - I started Mangoes 5-yrs ago
« on: August 31, 2018, 05:44:00 PM »
Nice Behl.  Very beautiful yard and view indeed.

For those that missed the Aug 4th talk, I will be giving another presentation at the OC CRFG meeting Thursday 9/20/18 at the First Congregational Church in Santa Ana at 7pm.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Registration of New Variety of Mango
« on: August 26, 2018, 11:49:11 PM »
Trademark registration and patents are made through the US Patent and Trademark Office.
There are a few mango patents out there from Zill, Tim Thompson, and others.
The cost is generally high and not worth it from a standpoint of profitability.
From what I have observed, there is generally very little policing/enforcement of the patent for plant material and its propagation (by individuals) once it is distributed for sale.

Proving you have a new variety may be a little more difficult.  Perhaps forum member DuncanYoung can give you more insight on patents, as I recall reading that a member of his family has a patent on a mango (Duncan and Young varieties).

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: M-4 mango scions
« on: August 26, 2018, 12:20:02 AM »
You never know unless you ask... never know...

But I did ask squam about newer variety scions and there is an intentional reason why the scion availability list is a subset of the trees he has. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: M-4 mango scions
« on: August 25, 2018, 10:13:31 PM »
unless M4 goes by a different name, don't think either of them currently are offering them.

Correct. Both of them do not have M-4 scions on their availability list....although they have the tree (at least squam does).

A few have being one.  It was, after all, named after my wife, so...

Its a larger sized fruit, I would say on average between 1.25 pounds and 1.75 pounds.  I have seen some whoppers around 2 pounds.  Taste is very sweet,  complex  with a hint of that Jakarta flavor ala O-15 (but not the peppery spice in Jakarta). Eaten many iver the years but never looked to see if mono or poly.  Will ask some that have it fruiting to see if they know.

Thanks Rob....As with the latter varieties to be released....there is often some problem like production or disease resistance.   Do you know why Amy wasn't released?  Your description of the Jakarta flavor sounds pretty good, but I recall you don't particularly care for some resinous varieties.

Amy, a Jakarta seedling...and I believe it is D-5 (trying to find/access my old notes).

I've been looking for info on Amy for some time.
Any description of fruit and flavor?  Poly or mono?
Anybody have this tree other than dongeorgio? 

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