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What did your daytime highs recover to after 37 low at night?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help. I need to buy 400 pot 10 gallon
« on: December 27, 2020, 02:55:14 PM »
Yes , I am well aware. Do you happen to have Walmarts and McDonalds in Florida because the place I recommend is nationwide and last time I looked CPS ( now Nutrien Ag Solutions) is in Florida. I don’t really gloss over location mistakes like that. Highly aware wonderfruit is in FL as it is the one thing you can see everytime someone makes a post.
15’s are cheaper. $3 a piece at crop production services .
But you in CA, Bush, and Wonder in FL.

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Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I’d pay $800 for a Belgian Breadfruit but not a Mexican Breadfruit.
Seriously though how could you possibly improve the proper latin name “ Monstera Deliciosa” that everyone already knows, someone trying way too hard to cough up this Loogie of a name.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help. I need to buy 400 pot 10 gallon
« on: December 26, 2020, 08:29:38 PM »
No worries, gotta go to the wholesale farm supply stores for plenty of supplies.

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Thanks Logee’s!
Get yourself a monstera soursop, yes a real deal cold tolerant mexican breadfruit!! Get yours today!   :o 8)



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help. I need to buy 400 pot 10 gallon
« on: December 26, 2020, 08:03:03 PM »
15’s are cheaper. $3 a piece at crop production services .

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Thats what Quince is for too , if that one grows easily at your location as well.

I've heard you can graft loquat on firethorn. I'm gonna try it eventually. There's a wild firethorn bush down the street from me if there's any interest in the seeds. Berries on it now. Have a few growing from last year's seeds for my own projects. Be awesome to have a severely dwarfed but yet highly productive quality fruiting loquat.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Butterscotch Sapodilla
« on: December 26, 2020, 01:39:56 PM »
So glad your here moderating Sheehan.
I enjoy the myriad of opinions too .
I think it’s too dangerous to the ego to NOT get called out on your BS. Having nothing but YesMen around you is just too inflating. Reality is the supply and demand will work itself out. There are people who can pay the mark up to get what they want with relative ease. There are people that know hot to plant lots of Sapodilla seeds and graft plant material from friends. Whichever route you choose, or anywhere in between you gotta get you a butter scotch, unless your like me and not hot enough to grow SapoD.
Speaking of SapoD , looks like he cashed out and skipped the question and answer period.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Butterscotch Sapodilla
« on: December 25, 2020, 06:31:21 PM »
People just be chasing dollar signs. Nothing wrong with marking something up 5- 10 times because a fool and his/her money are soon parted. Nothing wrong with marking up masks and sanitizers 5-10 times during a health crisis right. People may as well burn money in a warming fire with all the stupid crap they buy. The more people pay for a fruit tree, the more value and care (value) they’ll put into it.
Hype, the varietal name ( butterscotch sounds yummier than Alano , yah?) And presumed rarity drives the market, even if its a sour,small large seed bird food fruit, not that this particular one is.


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Rollinia’s were reclassified as Annona recently because the flower’s arent different enough to not have them classified as Annona with the other Annona’s.
These are the cold tolerant “Rollinia’s” from south Brazil.
Cold tolerant Annona from south Brazil.
Rugulosa
Sylvatica
Neosericea
Neosalicifolia is better fruit

Some of these must be available in the US because myself and others are growing them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonaceae<3
« on: December 24, 2020, 12:53:26 PM »
Really neat story.
Pictures of your junglesop ?
Adam said his took that, but I don’t have any, but he sold it

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonaceae<3
« on: December 23, 2020, 11:50:01 AM »
Pictures of your junglesop ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Container growth
« on: December 22, 2020, 11:16:41 PM »
I have fruited Cherimoya in 15 gallons. They can be kept in 15 gallons for a number of years.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Pepino Dulce cuttings & plants
« on: December 22, 2020, 11:12:32 PM »
Thank you. Glad these are growing well for everyone.
I do have cutting’s still available.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campomanesia schlechtendaliana
« on: December 21, 2020, 12:25:33 PM »




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonaceae<3
« on: December 21, 2020, 12:20:26 PM »
Planting and caring for a grove for 5-10 years , what is normally a delicious fruit , Atemoya, only to find out the tree’s look great, the hand pollinated fruits are setting and getting bigger but guess what they never ripen , always split , rot and are inedible.
Meanwhile the Cherimoya tree’s in the same planting area are delicious.
The tree’s look the same , so you have, the learning experience and no fruit or a productive Cherimoya orchard. I would hedge 80-20 with Cherimoya and if the Atemoya work out and you prefer them then topwork some of your cherimoya at that point.

Ben G’s friendly advice is priceless on this thread.
Cherimoya and paw paw are the known Annona relatives to ripen properly in the Bay Area. Some others can be grown but the fruit may be inedible from not conducive winter conditions, greenhouse or not.
wont hurt to try!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonaceae<3
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:40:21 AM »
Ben G’s friendly advice is priceless on this thread.
Cherimoya and paw paw are the known Annona relatives to ripen properly in the Bay Area. Some others can be grown but the fruit may be inedible from not conducive winter conditions, greenhouse or not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: annonaceae<3
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:36:14 AM »

Cold tolerant Annona from south Brazil.
Rugulosa
Sylvatica
Neosericea
Neosalicifolia is better fruit

quote author=Epicatt2 link=topic=41996.msg413426#msg413426 date=1608398932]
. . .  there are quite some more cold hardy annonas though, like annona montana, rollinia (cold tolerant ones), marolo lisa, etc.

Cold tolerant Rollinia, eh?  Which species?  Would that perhaps imply that certain R. deliciosa strains are more cold tolerant than others?  Which cultivars (named)?  How cold tolerant?  Mine just went thru 41ºF. plus several other days of 43-45ºF, too, and seems unfazed except for some leaves turning yellow.  It's in a 7 gallon pot now and about 4; tall with the main trunk at 1-1/2" dia.  It is out under the sky, getting full sun.  Also sits in a saucer to provide it with ample water.

And, BTW, my Ilama is holding  up well; its leaves are still green.  It is next to an A. squamosa whose leaves ar starting to turn yellow.  Both are in 5 gallon pots and are  4' and 3' tall respectively.

There is also an Atemoya 'Gefener' which sits out near the Rollinia and is showing leaf yellowing but otherwise is fine.

Lastly I bought one of those Annona sp. (Golden Sugar Apple, Pineapple Annona) from TT before I learned that it may just be a pond apple) and it also made it through 41ºF with no damage.  And I also got from TT an A. montana, currently in a 1 gallon pot and only 18" tall, which made it thru this same cold spell with no damage.

Hope that offers the OP some ideas about cold tolerance in Annonas.  This cold spell was a good test for me and all of the other tropical fruit that I've gotten remained unaffected. Even a Eugenia stipitata (Araça-boi) which is supposed to hate the cold and to stop growing at 60ºF, has kept growing and flowering, although it looked a bit wilty after 41ºF, but it has recovered and showed no damage other than a few of the flower buds browned off.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya on Guanabana Rootstock?
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:31:02 AM »
Lisa Atemoyas grown on Soursop rootstock with a Cherimoya interstock and Lisa on top.
Fruited at around 1,000 ft near Kona Hawaii.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annonas in 9b
« on: December 09, 2020, 10:17:35 PM »
You can grow Cherimoya pretty easily in menlo park.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: why are cherimoya seeds rotting
« on: December 08, 2020, 02:43:25 PM »
If your trying to pop rollinia and soursop in winter you may want to pony up a little bit for a cheap or free  seedling heat mat, it will help germinating everything.


Your greenhouse temps are in the 40’s at night unless you have a heat source.
Try germinating all your sub tropical seeds on a heat mat in winter.
Don’t have :(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: why are cherimoya seeds rotting
« on: December 07, 2020, 11:04:36 AM »
Your greenhouse temps are in the 40’s at night unless you have a heat source.
Try germinating all your sub tropical seeds on a heat mat in winter.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ultra rare butterscotch sapodila
« on: December 06, 2020, 01:19:37 PM »
I think the idea was to hustle these to people outside of FL who are on the hype train with no other way to buy a ticket to ride.

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Butia eriospatha is wooly jelly palm , fruits without the stringiness of normal Jelly’s.

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