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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: Today at 08:47:49 PM »
Hey Jabba
Those are Ilamas. I have had a decent crop this year hopefully theyíll ripen before November

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: Today at 01:54:06 PM »
Can all just come to grips with the fact that your palate is not quite as refined as others?  8) :o ;)
I appreciate the information on proper naming convention and now I know that a Tikal reticulata X cherimoya cross is not the same as a  cherimoya X Tikal reticulata cross.  I had previously not realized it mattered so much in what order the parents were named (I believe I read it first on a post from Frank recently).

That said, are we making a fuss about the proper convention in describing the parents?
If the flower pollinated is Cherimoya and the pollen donor is Reticulata (as Shot describes it in one of the shared links), that is a Cherilata, correct?

I hope to fruit the FL cherilata and perhaps get a scion or two of Franks and make my call on which I prefere.

Correct, John's hybrid is a real Cherilata.

Suck on these jackass! Oh yeah, stop selling Behlís Moya variety without his permission you piece of shit!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 08, 2020, 08:32:11 PM »
JF, is the cherilata self fertile? Are the seeds viable?

I couldnít tell you I hand pollinate all my anonas. Of course the seeds are viable but they are not true to seeds

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Custard apple pollen is ok not soursop. Iíve been able to get rollinia to set fruits on my cherimoyas and custard apple weíll see what come out of that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trompo Canistel Growth Rate
« on: August 08, 2020, 08:27:18 PM »
Trompo is a fast grow it will out grow yr Haysa within two year and start producing hundreds of fruits after 4-5 years ..... at least in Orange County California. With regards to what to feed it, I used bioflora and cottonseed for the first two years and now just mulch it heavy after every year. Look at my instagram I have pix of the fruits and tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 07, 2020, 11:02:58 AM »
Of course not Jabbo, I never took it personally.

Orkine
Iíll start selling cherilata wood next fall, trees and branches are too small. Iíll have my fall anona scion sale next month.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 06, 2020, 08:22:01 PM »
Are you guys the spokesman for John? Shot( John Painter) words are engraved in the thread below if he wants to correct or clarify what he said in 2 separate replies let him speak for himself. With respect to the best annona you ever had, thats yr opinion which I put very little credence since you guys provide no references to which anonas you are comparing it to. I will judge for myself when I fruit it and compare it to my 50 varieties of anonas.



Frank, John has stated here on this board, as Oolie just posted and dwfl have said, exactly what this hybrid is so not sure why you keep denying it.

I'm not twisting your arm behind your back trying to make you admit it is the best annona ever Frank, just stating my opinion as is dwfl, which happen to be just as valid as yours whether we have tried 5,000 annonas or just that one. Why so condescending man?  :o

Me denying what? Did you read my post? Iím referring to what John painter said or did you miss that? Let me cut & paste it or you :

Reply # 4 from John Painter
Tikal reticulata X cherimoya cross ,red firm flesh,raspberry overtone flavor.Best quality fruit is in Winter and Spring in Florida.

Reply#9 from John Painter

I did that cross back in 2003 almost lost all do to 2004 hurricane charley 150mph+.It is Tikal reticulata X cherimoya cross.I have done atemoya and reticulata cross also so far not as good.

I saw oliveís post from John conversation with Har i got it. I just wanted clarification from him since he contradicted himself. Johnís hybrid appears to be a red reticulata but the leaves are almost identical to my cherilata. You have every right to yr opinion and I said that but after many year of tasting and growing dozens of anonas Iíve develop a more sophisticated palate then most ..... if you wanna get all worked up and call that condescending so be it, yr entitled to yr opinion.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 06, 2020, 01:07:34 AM »
Are you guys the spokesman for John? Shot( John Painter) words are engraved in the thread below if he wants to correct or clarify what he said in 2 separate replies let him speak for himself. With respect to the best annona you ever had, thats yr opinion which I put very little credence since you guys provide no references to which anonas you are comparing it to. I will judge for myself when I fruit it and compare it to my 50 varieties of anonas.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Motul Oro
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:50:33 PM »










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 03, 2020, 02:12:20 AM »
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=37339.0;all
Go ahead and read this thread reply#9 jabba
I think you are confusing johnís words: Tikal x cherimoya
Is that a cherilata? No, itís a retimoya

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 02, 2020, 01:40:21 PM »
Joe, most likely a seed from fino or Dr. white cross with reticulate . John Travis hybridized anona is reticulate x cherimoya or Atemoya which equals a retimoya NOT a Cherilata. This is a true Cherilata ( cherimola x reticulata), cherimoyas don't preform well in Florida.....they probably flower and set fruits but end up dropping. I have friends in Miami growing cherimoyas and the results have been malformed inedible anonas.

Pierce is Accepted as the ultimate anona with a rating of 10 then the Cherilata is 5 and the JT retilata 3 or 4. Iíll compare the retilata vs Cherilata in a few year when i fruit both.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 01, 2020, 11:46:41 PM »
Frank,

Did you breed this fruit?

-Joe

Hi Joe
I wish I did but I can not take credit, itís from a friend of mine. We have not named it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Real cherilata
« on: August 01, 2020, 09:20:49 PM »
Monster size real cherilata. With proper fertilizing, the taste is good and different from moyas and atemoyas. If you give 10 to Birula, this is a 7

Btw, i appreciate everyoneís interest in my Cherilata but I will not be selling scions until fall 2021 tree and grafts are too small. Thanks
Frank

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Real cherilata
« on: July 31, 2020, 03:45:39 PM »





Here are pix of the cherilata from Florida and mine:










Here is mine:









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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Ilama seeds for sale
« on: July 28, 2020, 01:48:41 PM »
Iíll have some in November and maybe trees




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Hi Gary
Glad you are doing well, stay safe in the desert. LZ and St are much more intense and flavorful in SoCal than the Florida version I have had.....and I have had dozens of Florida LZ and ST.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tasting get together san diego
« on: July 22, 2020, 05:22:13 PM »
Donít you dare lecture me about whatís unamerican and whatís not Mister!!...Iím 60 years old and a US Marine so you can go to hell w yr propaganda.  DeSantis and Trump have cause more harm and death to this country than bid laden and Fidel Castro combine.....again keep yr garbage politics away from this forum

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tasting get together san diego
« on: July 22, 2020, 04:48:45 PM »
Zands keep yr political garbage To yrself. Now heís sending the gestapo to Seattle what other proof do you need? Do you have any decency and respect for the 145,000 Americans that have expired due to trump virus?

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Brad a word of advice, if someone yr dealing does not feel right go w yr instinct and donít sell to them. Iíve had someone blame me because their scions or cuttings didnít take. Some folks donít appreciate the service we provide and the trouble we go through. If someone doesnít like the price and shipping keep yr money we donít want it.

Hey frank hope you are staying healthy and your plans for Mexico haven't  been screwed up.  I hear you, I was a bit hard on this guy.  It's hard to keep everyone happy, sometimes people make mistakes both parties aren't happy, scions don't take etc.  Shit happens.

Brad, my blessings to you and yr family. All plans have been scrapped for now but Iím optimistic that things will improve. My point is when you exchange PMís or text w someone and you feel uncomfortable it best to tell them ,politely, thanks but no thanks. One has to use ones good judgment and common sense to avoid confrontations.

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Brad a word of advice, if someone yr dealing does not feel right go w yr instinct and donít sell to them. Iíve had someone blame me because their scions or cuttings didnít take. Some folks donít appreciate the service we provide and the trouble we go through. If someone doesnít like the price and shipping keep yr money we donít want it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Super Hass avocado
« on: June 15, 2020, 02:33:49 PM »
Carmen Hass is not a multi crop avocado at least not in SoCal. We have a large specimen in The Great Park in EL Torro that my friend Jon, master gardener, planted some years ago and it has not produce multi crops consistently

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The mango scion sale ended last night! I want to thank everyone who participated for their tremendous support. I might have a combine mango and anona scion sale in late August. All orders will be completed and shipped by Monday and I will provide tracking numbers all always.
Frank

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The following have been sold out:
Parson
NDM4
Sunrise
Coco cream
Zinc
Coc
Fruit Punch
Please take a look at the list and do not include the varieties above or yr order will not be process.
Thanks you for yr patience and understanding

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Just a reminder that I will be accepting pick up in La Habra no later then Saturday 12 pm. All shipping orders will be shipped Monday. I will stop taking any orders Friday 8 pm. There are no exceptions as I'm leaving town early next week due to a flight cancellation and reschedule.

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Fruit punch sold out. Please check list before ordering or paying
Frank

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