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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 19, 2012, 05:40:56 PM »
Very impressive fruit. Don't let this one get away. Make sure that budwood is spread around.

I'll do my best to spread it around......all the way down to Florida.
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JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:19:30 PM »
JF,

Nice job on spotting this beauty, I would love some Atemoya wood if there was extras. Perhaps if you come to Greenscene we could exchange some plants. BTW, did you ever get that mango budwood?

Nullzy

What first caught my attention were the nisperos not the atemoyas but now I'm intrigue by this atemoya and the story behind it. I'll see how much wood he brings to my house. I have two seedlings growing on the northeast side of the house that I'm going to graft. Hopefuly we'll meet up in the greenscene. I usually go there on Sunday though.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 18, 2012, 04:09:57 PM »
To tell you the truth, cold hardiness is far from an exact science.  Micro climatic conditions come into play.  The type of rootstock used can also make a difference.  One thing is certain, the healthier you maintain your trees during the entire year, the better they will survive a cold snap.  You have to take many factors into account when you judge how cold tolerant a tree really is. I grow my most delicate trees in a protected area on the south side of my property. One example of cold hardiness that I found during the cold snap we had in SFLA in 2009 was that my grafted J-31 Jakfruit did much worse than my seedling Jak. My J-31 lost 60% of it's leaves and had branch damage. It's on the protected side of my house, whereas my seedling Dang Suria Jak is in an open section of my yard and suffered zero damage. Before you judge how cold hardy something is, you need to examine all the evidence and over several years.       

Thanks Noel
I'll will put it on the protected side of my house, it's in a 7 gallon now. I've talked to Roger Meyer and Ben Poirier about their experience with Custard Apple both of them said they are too cold sensitive for our climate. Roger showed me his Rollinia that's been on the ground for 3 years and has taken our cold winters with no problem. He said that the Rollinia grows more vigorously than any annona he has ever grown..

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 18, 2012, 03:30:28 PM »
Five to six pounds is unbelieveable for an atemoya.  I am most interested to see what they look like inside and, more importantly, how they taste. JF...get your fruit correspondent hat back on.  This is a new mission assignment....please.  You can't fail us!   I have never seen anything like these!

Harry


I'm all over it, Harry. The taste is not spectacular but I did not eat it after harvest, a few months after. I am beginning to warm up to this Atemoya, the size is impressive! Minh is coming out to my house in two weeks with some budwood to help me graft it on to my chirimoya seedlings and I've already obtain a small tree from him.

Tim-

I've ask Minh permission to pass out his address and he would NOT authorize it.


Rob -

yeap it's paver deck, he has his front and backyard paved. here is how it looks.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vietnamese Atemoya
« on: February 17, 2012, 08:17:26 PM »
I went to check on the Vietnamese  Atemoya in Santa Ana . It turns out that my friend Minh was in Vietnam for a month and when he got back home he discover that a fruit bandits had swiped his largest fruits .However, he still has about ten huge fruits hanging which, according to him, should weigh-in at about 5 or 6 pounds, by April. He showed me a picture of one from last year which was 6 pounds, it was bigger than his wife's head.

JF





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 17, 2012, 07:30:26 PM »
I grew a "Tikal"  A. reticulata amd it easily survived a few 30 degree nights in the early 80s that killed sugar apples and Rollinia. When it gets under 40 degrees, Rollinias drop lots of leaves. Rollinia is far from the cold hardiest. Now I am talking about trees grown outside without any protection, not protected container plants.
I have been growing Annonas for over 20 years and keep records.         

Are you suggesting that A. reticulata is hardier than a sugar apple? How are the A. reticulata propagated in South Florida?


JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 17, 2012, 07:23:14 PM »
They are already being grown in CA.  ;D

-Ethan

I'm sorry Ethan what I meant to say was  a fruiting reticulata. BTW, how is your Red Geneva, has it fruited?

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:41:02 PM »
Of course Squam

I'm just messing with John. For example, my wife made congri and boliche this evening. The only thing missing is a Catalina avocado from Florida. I grew up eating  beans, rice and plantain with slices of Florida avocados in Miami, how could I not love them! Squam, Lula is a great Texas avocado for guacamole but where are you going to find the cilantro and the jalapenhos to prepare it??? ;D

JF

Hopefully in my vegetable beds someday.... pperhaps I'll use something a little hotter than jalalepenos though ;)

What do you mean Texas avocado, Lula came from Florida!  :D
you are right! but the longhorn state made them famous ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:37:19 PM »
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Eventually I will have a plot of land big enough to plant out all those varieties :P. Fresh avocados all year round :).

Nullzy

A lot of those avocados overlap. I have pinkerton, Hass and Shawill these will cover the entire year. I also have two later ones Holiday and Reed  because of their superior quality.

JF

I heard about sharwil and some others being very good at holding fruit on the tree. Currently have a Bacon and a Hass in ground, I am about to harvest the fruit in a few weeks.

Yes, Sharwill is an amazing avocado but so is the Nimlioh, JanBoyce and many others. Did anyone notice the Mexicola inside the Daily 11 in July?? Nullzy, you should come to the green scene this year Julie Fink's and the rest of the orange county CRFG gang will have all of these varieties and much more for sale,

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:30:22 PM »
Of course Squam

I'm just messing with John. For example, my wife made congri and boliche this evening. The only thing missing is a Catalina avocado from Florida. I grew up eating  beans, rice and plantain with slices of Florida avocados in Miami, how could I not love them! Squam, Lula is a great Texas avocado for guacamole but where are you going to find the cilantro and the jalapenhos to prepare it??? ;D

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:47:39 PM »
I have not tasted all of them. but they are very close or better than hass. The two that really stand out are the reed and sharwil lthey are creamier and more buttery than hass....heck, a good fuerte could easily beat a catalina avocado. Overall, I agree with you. California avocados are superior. I would never dare make guacamole with a Florida avocado8)

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 16, 2012, 09:07:25 PM »
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Eventually I will have a plot of land big enough to plant out all those varieties :P. Fresh avocados all year round :).

Nullzy

A lot of those avocados overlap. I have pinkerton, Hass and Shawill these will cover the entire year. I also have two later ones Holiday and Reed  because of their superior quality.

JF

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Wow!! Absolutely beautiful blooming trees...thanks for posting!

I noticed your Cushman Mango is putting out new growths only on some of the branches, I just noticed my Glenn this morning doing the same thing. Some of the branches only have new growths, while others have a combination flowers and blooms on the same spike and others are 100% blooms only. I've never noticed new growths without flowers before on any of my trees this time of year.  Thanks for posting the pictures!






Hi Nancy, Joe Fernandez here....my Glenn did the same thing last year. that's the perfect combination for a young tree to flush and bloom at the same time.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Custard Apples Florida
« on: February 16, 2012, 08:40:42 PM »
Noel --Do they grow close to seed? I am going to get rid of all the cherimoya trees I have and try growing something will actually grow here in in Broward. If you have a few seeds from them that you would sell I would love to try germinating/ growing a seedling :) Be in touch. I want to get the other info we talked about.
Thanks
Marin

Since you already have them going, why don't you use them as root stocks instead?  Maybe Noel can sport you some scions?


Noel, how are these red custard apples compare to cherimoyas and atemoyas in taste?  They're beautiful in color, I wish they aren't as tender so we can try growing them in Socal.

Tim, if we can grow sugar apples here we can surely grow Annona reticulata. In fact, I just goggled it and read a post from cloudforest where a grower in San Clemente has a huge Annona reticulata. I'm getting A rectangular from Roger lol I have a Yucatan seedling that's growing slow and has withstood our winter without dropping a leaf.
JF
JF

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Here are a few pictures of some of my blooming mango trees taken this afternoon.

Your Rosies are ready to go! the Graham and Carrie are going off! you got beuatiful trees Tony!

JF

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JF--
Your Glenn has lots of nice blooms. It must be your first of the year fruiting mango. Last year my first edible mango was a Glenn on May 25th.
Cutting off panicles---I have seen mangoes go either way. You cut off panicles and it will grow new ones, but sometimes it doesn't. Not helpful to you I know.  I have cut off panicles on young mangoes so instead of wasting resources on fruiting they would grow larger quicker. But then they disobey and send out new panicles.


To everyone-- Thanks for the compliments. My Carrie and Glenn look the blooming best....my other mangoes are more shy and restrained

Thanks Zand. All of my mangos are blooming with the exception of my Coconut Cream. I'm going to cut off the panicles on most of them. My Glenn is probably 2-3 weeks ahead of last year but we'll see when it will fruit. Haden and Edward were the first to fruit last and that wasn't until late Aug.Glenn has them beat this year because of the early bloom.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inducing a growt flush
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:31:12 PM »
Potassium Nitrate but you need to live in a subtropical climate. Here is a link that talks about it in Spanish......did your Glenn survive?

Adelanto y retraso de la floración en mango

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango in central Italy: an experiment.
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:21:58 PM »
Great project Pancrazio, thanks for putting it together! Your data will be useful for folks in the Midwest or Northeast.

JF

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:12:51 PM »
What is the source of that photo?
Oscar

SCREC
Avocado Germplasm collection
Julie Fink avocado curator at the Irvine field station.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado Varieties of Southern California
« on: February 15, 2012, 12:58:09 AM »
pics of different varieties by month


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Avocados do very well in partical shade.

JF

Is that so?  I never heard that before.

Yeap! I have three that are thriving in the northwest side of the house. I have lost two in a heatwave in full sun.

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Avocados do very well in partical shade.

JF

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puglvr1


that's great Nancy! Are your Glenn and Cogshall blooming?

JF

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Zand -
Beautiful bloom on your Carrie and Glenn. My Glenn has been pushing since the first of Dec. but our our cold nights slow it down. I'm lucky if I see my first mango by mid Aug. I removed all the flowers on my Carrie, do you think it will start pushing new growth or flower again??

JF

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Hi Nancy
Welcome to this forum! Sorry about the freezes. I've been in sweats the last few days. It has cold down quite a bit but were are in the low 50's at night. Keeping my finger cross for you!

JF


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