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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest Mango
« on: January 28, 2014, 12:47:59 PM »
Thanks FloridaGreenMan, Sleepdoc.

My Pickering is in ground espaliered to a fence already (unfortunately taking the space that LZ could be taking): http://postimg.org/image/4me1q568z/

I have run out of space, may need to replant LZ into the front yard if HOA permits.

Sorry MangoMan2 for using your topic for this question.  But wander if Malika and Nam Doc Mai fruit in containers.  I am thinking about buying them and keeping in containers after reading that they are smaller mango trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest Mango
« on: January 28, 2014, 11:36:39 AM »
Does LZ fruit in a container ?

Unfortunately I have no other choice but to keep it in a 20 gal container because of lack of space.

LZ was one of the two that I decapitated to 1.5ft to encourage branching out at a lower point and hopefully keep the size manageable in the container.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry Tree
« on: January 27, 2014, 07:31:01 PM »
I bought a few inch plant online 4 minths ago and it grows so fast that already replanted twice, last in a 20 gal container.  The tree is pretty, and if it continues growing like this, it may start giving fruit this year. 

I plan to keep it in the container and maintain its size for long.  Last time I pruned for shape, i put cuttings in for rooting.  Too early to say, but the cuttings still look green and nice.

Never tasted the fruit.  Just got it for fun and for kids to enjoy the novelty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What so special About an avacado?
« on: January 24, 2014, 08:03:32 PM »
I ate avocado for several times, but so far, I do not find any reason, why people eat it and why it is so popular, especially in the US.
For me, this fruit is in my basket called "no reason to eat it again" together with tamarillo, kumquat, salac and papaya.

My exact reaction the first time I tried store bought avocado and mango both before ripening because i did not know it.  But learned how to pick and use, acquired the taste, and now can not live without.  I just cut avocado in half and scoop and eat with a spoon - great taste and healthy too.

I also did not like beer long time ago....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing a Kumquat: Yay or Nay?
« on: January 22, 2014, 09:55:27 AM »
I have a small grafted Meiwa in a 3gal container since summer, it has been fruiting quite heavily for that size tree.  I like the taste and look of the tree.  The taste is slightly sweet and citrusy.  Not very juicy, flavor is in the skin and pulp.  My kids and wife did not like the taste, so I end up eating all of them.  Mine has plenty of seeds though, probably 6-8 in each small fruit, not sure if this is typical.  The seeds germinate very well, so now I have several small 1 inch seedlings and do not know what to do with them.  I am in south Palm Bach County, possibly near you, if you are interested you can pick up couple of seedlings for free, though it may take years before it fruits.  You can probably also grow from a seed of a store-bought Kumquat.  Seeds probably do not produce the exact same fruit though.  Overall, I would buy the tree again because it is ornamental and I like its fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry hedge and or bush cherry
« on: January 21, 2014, 01:49:24 PM »
Thanks shaneatwell, looks exactly what I need.
Now I have to find free/cheap scions of tasty Eugenias to graft on the hedge and give it some purpose beyond just looks.

NaturalGreenthumb, my landscape hedge that i think is a surinam cherry produces fruit very rarely, probably because I keep trimming it short, never giving a chance to bloom, and it does not taste like anything I would want to eat.  But I have read there are darker colored cultivars of surinam cherry that are sweeter and taste much like regular cherry.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry hedge and or bush cherry
« on: January 21, 2014, 10:42:28 AM »
I have some cherry like hedge in So FL, grows fast and need to trim back 3-4 times a year.  I have seen rare fruit on it, and the shape reminds me of Surinam Cherry but not sure.  I will post a photo the next time I see the fruit.

Anybody tried grafting good quality cherry on such hedge ?
Any other fruit can be grafter on it ?  e.g. grumichama, pitomba, acerola, watermelon...

Just kidding about the watermelon.


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Very interesting approach.  Being new at this (read - not having any clue) I ventured to do something similar but at a much smaller scale couple of weeks ago on mango and avocado.  Grafted smaller pieces but multiple because i do not have much to work with.  e.g. two small scions veneer grafter on one seedling avocado.  Tried both clef and veneer grafting on a mango branch just above a 3-way fork, one on each branch, with multiple size budwoods from 1 inch to 3 inches, some with only side bud.  Hoping that some will take, but mostly for learning and fund of it.  It will be great to see how CTMIAMI's experiment will work out.  Thanks for the nice photos !

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thanks puglvr1.
thanks zands, i will wait about pruning persimmon and atemoya.
sunworshiper, very pretty photos.  your small mango trees seem happy and blooming.  no sign of bloom on my mangos yet.  BTW, what ground cover plant do you use under mango ?  looks pretty.

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Some results from today's gardening.

Mango trees before pruning back and after pruning to about 1.5ft





Fig tree after cutting back to about 1 foot



Espalier plum, mango, guava







This is my dragon fruit setup



This is some kind of ultra dwarf mulberry loaded with fruit at just 2 ft even in winter, what a surprise!



Here are Atemoya and Persimmon that look like sticks, still holding back on pruning them to 1.5-2ft from ground.






And this is my first ever graft on Avocado done 2 weeks ago. Two grafts on the same seedling, one is looking very promising.



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Thank you very much puglvr1, sunworshiper.  This gives me courage to cut back the Atemoya and couple of Mangos, I will probably do the same with Choquette avocado that is still in a container.  Thanks for sharing the photos !  I will do the same.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time tasting Annonas!!
« on: January 17, 2014, 10:22:33 AM »
I tried my first annona - Atemoya Lisa - few days ago and had the same reaction !  Now I have a bug about getting more varieties to plant.

It is so interesting that there are whole types of poplar fruit that at 40 y.o. I have never tasted in my life.  Had first mango and avocado few years ago; first sapote, dragon fruit, jackfruit last year; first annona just recently; many others still never tasted, so much fun ahead !

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Thanks ASaffron.

My mangoes are smaller varieties: Cogshall, Pickering, Lancetilla; hope to keep them about 6 ft tall.  I also have Lemon Zest (?) and Pina Colada, which are probably larger varieties and will have to let it grow probably to 8-10 feet.

Avocados are Simmonds and Choquette, and I realize they like to grow big.  So this is something I still have to figure out how to manage in the small yard.  Choquette is still in a container and can be moved around.

But really the main question is, will these trees survive a severe cutback to encourage lower branching point ?

The lower the branching point the more foliage can be sustained when keeping the trees short - this is my (uneducated) rationale for wanting to cut back the main stem to 1.5-2 feet above ground.

The suggestion about espalier is good - thanks !  Watched some videos and want to try.  Do you know if Avocado or Mango will espalier ?


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I have a small (tiny) backyard and trying to keep fruit trees to about 6 feet tall forever.  The problem is that some trees have very high stem before they branch.  The trees themselves are young, came in 3 gal containers, so they are like sticks in the ground with small branches and leaves at the top.

I have read that you can just cut them back to 1.5-to-2 feet or so tall stem, and let them grow new shoots from lower branching point.  And this is probably the right time to do it.  But I am nervous about killing or severely hurting the trees if I cut them so low and leaf-less.

Different fruit trees may also react differently.  Have this (cosmetic) problem with Atemoya, Mango, Avocado, Persimmon, Jaboticaba.  Any advice from more experiences forum members would be much appreciated.

Most of the trees are grafted, and graft points are fairly low at few inches from the ground.


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Thanks Cookie Maponster, you guessed right about the nursery.  And, after some more googling, it does look like Lisa as you indicated.

Thanks JF for the photos.  This is also when i discovered that there are so many different great Atemoyas, will try to multigraft of my grafted Lisa to add more variety.

So to my list of "wanted" cuttings adding: Atemoya varieties.  I am interested in buying some fresh cuttings.

Learning is fun...

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Hmm, the tree was sold as Gefner to me at a well known nursery in So FL.  How can you tell the difference ?  The flesh was creamy white.  I would appreciate any clues.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees few feet from inground pool ?
« on: January 11, 2014, 12:36:24 PM »
Thank you very much everybody for the wealth of advice.  It looks like bananas, papayas, pineapples are fairly safe.  Everything else is iffy and better kept in containers rather than few feet from inground pool.  Although chance of pool damage is small for small fruit trees and if trees are kept small in any case, so the final decision depends on personal level of comfort with this risk.  Thanks again !

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Dear forum members,

Just ate my first Gefner Atemoya from my backyard tree - deliciously sweet.  Have fresh seeds, in Palm Beach County, FL (can mail if needed).

Seeking tip cuttings for scion wood of Mango and/or Avocado suitable for south FL.  I am a novice and decided to try grafting to get coctail trees for fun.  Would love your recommendations about varieties.

Mangos of interest: Sweet Tart, Mallika, Carrie, Nam Doc Mai.
Avocados of interest:  Miguel, Monroe, Russell.
But other varieties would also do.

Thanks for considering !









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees few feet from inground pool ?
« on: December 30, 2013, 09:08:10 PM »
Thank you sunworshiper and SWRancher for your advice about bananas, i have two dwarf bananas in containers and will plant them in that area.  i was thinking about planting kumquat, will keep it in the container.

MangoFang, how old and big are your mango trees near the pool ?  thanks for your reply.

HMHausman, luc, i would also feel safer with 10+ feet or at least 2 meters.  Unfortunately, i have only a narrow strip of land in that area, so the farthest would be 3-4 feet or about one meter.  thanks for your reply.

I guess i will have to limit to bananas and possibly small bushes or tiny trees like miracle fruit.

Was also wondering about feijoa since it can be kept small.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit trees few feet from inground pool ?
« on: December 30, 2013, 08:24:10 AM »
Few months ago I too started planting tropical fruit trees in my tiny backyard in Palm Beach County, FL.
Soon all space is used up, and I have been thinking about planting more in a narrow long space behind an inground pool (typical in South Florida), which will be 3 to 4 feet from the edge of the pool.

The problem is that I am afraid of the root system damaging the pool. I would much appreciate advice about this situation. Specifically

Any tropical or subtropical fruit tree or bush that has a weak root system to avoid the risk ?

Is 3 - 4 feet too close to the edge of the pool ? I would hate to have to pay 1000s in repairs in few years.

Is this a bad idea ?

Thank you all !

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