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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Online nurseries suggestions
« on: July 05, 2017, 05:16:30 PM »
Purchased over 14 mango trees from TT. nothing but good experiences, they reimbursed me for one tree which was the wrong size and customer service was great with getting special orders in for trees they don't carry on their website or those that our out of stock.


Here's a link from an old post from my first 11 trees ( All dead due to change in Military Duty Station) http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=9060.msg122239#msg122239

My 3 new trees, Lemon Zest, Sweet Tart, and Peach Cobbler are fairing well in Norfolk, VA... next step is a to put up a green house to survive the harsh winter.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Black Mederia KK's Strain
« on: February 17, 2017, 05:02:38 AM »
Looking for these rare cuttings if anyone has some to sell?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Love the Fig
« on: February 17, 2017, 05:01:41 AM »
Any Fig Lovers Here with Black Mediera (KK's Strain) with cuttings for sell?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How are your Cherimoyas doing?
« on: October 26, 2016, 10:52:31 PM »
I don't recall ever a dating Burton. Looks like a nice fruit though. Good size, nice shape and sounds like high Brix? Does it have good acidity?

My holy grail of cherimoya is a fruit with good sweetness, juicy, large fruit with few seeds and most importantly, very high acidity!

Simon

Simon what moya has captured this taste for you so far? The best one I tried to date came from an Asian Market of all places with amazing sweetness and high acidity which was mouth popping Lemon sweetness which kinda of took over the typical cherimoya flavors... Besides that rogue un-named moya, I say El Bumpo is King.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: October 24, 2016, 07:36:21 PM »
Sugar  dragon is  the  sweetest I've  tryed  to date.

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EL BUMPO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Praises to the man who developed that variety. Is he still around JF?

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yah, the super market cherimoyas are of poor quality. I tried them a few times and always end up tossing them in the trash. It's a shame, because I think a lot of Floridians base their experience with cherimoyas on super market cherimoyas, which are not good. CA grown cherimoyas are absolutely incredible.

Really JF,

That sucks! The sprouts in Temecula always carried  Cherimoyas from Melissa's which is grown in the valley.

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Careful with the off topic posts and comments especially pertaining to the sub topics..... The flame and shade throwing is real here...

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Yo dude, you need to read closely, DUDE.  Your response has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.  Barath's post was on topic, and he didnt ask anything about overwintering of any type of rootstock in any location.  As I previously posted, your post was torally random and had nothing to do with the topic of THIS thesad.  If you want to discuss growing msngoes outside of the normsl mango growing zone, maybe start your own?  Get it now, dude?

My Autalfo/Champagne I grew from seed. It even as a seedling was never protected from frost. I feel pretty good it will last.  One thing- plant a few of them as some seedlings will be much more faster growing. From what I can tell,those seedlings who start with adult like foliage are MUCH better then the usual small leafs that flush larger much later.



What in the world does this have to do with the thread's topic?

Well,read close Bullie dude. Barath was wondering about Aultalfo as rootstock. Hence, my post that mine went through TWO winter uprotected is agreeing they would make a good rootstalk if you dont want Aultalfo fruit.  Sabe? I also included my observations that even the variation of the seeds is interesting.
Barath is up here in the bay area where things might be different. Get it now?
What is your problem? Simon asked a harmless question and I replied... Sorry if I slightly derailed the thread in answering a question.... No need to be rude and disrespectful.

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Thanks for the report Clay! Do you know if the current owners kept the trees? It usually takes several years before the trees start to decline and get droopy.

Simon

Unfortunately Simon, in the process of getting my Home ready for rent, l Let my trees go for about 4 months, All my Tropicals bit the dust in the Winter.... I managed to take My CC with me here in VA, basically got pugged from the Winter.....just sent out it's first flush a month ago.... Hard times my friend....look to start over one day when I retire.... Hopefully in Fallbrook CA or Deluz Temecula.

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Before I shipped out to VA due the Navy's change of command for my assignment.... My 7 Gallon trees from TT were all Monsters, especially my Edward and NDM after a little under 2 years.....and with heavy frost pruning as well... could have easily been larger.... my 3 gallon trees seemed to grow a lot slower, but most of them were also potted as well.

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Hey guys!

First out to sea adventure with my new Command in Norfolk Virginia and we'll be in South Florida tomorrow for Fleet week.

I was wondering if anyone knew of an markets nearby with good quality Mangoes?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaii visit
« on: April 27, 2016, 05:23:32 PM »
I personally enjoy pigging out on the lychee when Hawaii.

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This seems like regular frost damage...... and at 38 no less....My trees have endured an inch of snow without protection with moderate frost damage...this seems like a regular mango tree when it comes to tolerance.

Clay, thanks for your input. Which variety survive 26F and which perish? Your experience should put an end to this illusion that Antonio or of any of Tim's mangos are colder hardier than the rest.



Ahh... thought he  said 38 degrees..... yeah at 27 degrees, most small mango trees like that will probably get destroyed....so maybe their might be some cold tolerance in these trees after all.

No, there is no proof that Thompson's trees are anymore cold hardy than LZ or any other tree. I wanted to know your experience last year when it snowed in Temecula and it got down to the 20's which mango trees survived and which died?



JF


I believe someone here on the forum.....maybe even Bullie...suggested that the snow acted as a barrier for the leaves and the tree, which somehow protects it against frost....I'm not completely sure though... Every tree survived minus my Carrie which died to a 27 degree low.

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This seems like regular frost damage...... and at 38 no less....My trees have endured an inch of snow without protection with moderate frost damage...this seems like a regular mango tree when it comes to tolerance.

Clay, thanks for your input. Which variety survive 26F and which perish? Your experience should put an end to this illusion that Antonio or of any of Tim's mangos are colder hardier than the rest.



Ahh... thought he  said 38 degrees..... yeah at 27 degrees, most small mango trees like that will probably get destroyed....so maybe their might be some cold tolerance in these trees after all.

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This seems like regular frost damage...... and at 38 no less....My trees have endured an inch of snow without protection with moderate frost damage...this seems like a regular mango tree when it comes to tolerance.

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I'm trying to track down a species of Ficus from Australia that reportedly makes an excellent nematode-resistant rootstock for figs. 

I found it described in an article from the Florida State Horticultural Society from 1925. They tested 18 Ficus species as potential nematode-resistant rootstocks for figs, and found that the most promising was an unidentified Ficus species from North Queensland, Australia, introduced by the Office of Seed and Plant Introduction in 1921 under the name SPI 52406. Growing in its native habitat, this species was described as, "A large clean tree with fruit of fine delicate sweet flavor and size of a black Smyrna fig, only more rounded and dark crimson when ripe." They report that the species is evergreen, and in Florida it suffered foliage burn at 29 degrees F, and die-back at 25 degrees F.

They report that fig scions made graft unions more reliably and with better subsequent growth on this species than grafted onto Ficus glomerata, their second-best choice. They report that they planted out one fig grafted onto Ficus 52406 in spring in nematode-infested soil, and as a control also planted a self-rooted fig 17 feet away. By fall, the grafted plant had ripened almost a hundred figs, growing to 4.5 feet with a 2.5 inch diameter trunk just above the bud union. The self-rooted fig nearby suffered heavy nematode damage to its roots, grew to just 2.5 feet, and ripened only a single fig the same year.

I can't find any subsequent information on this species.

I know this is not a lot of information to go on in terms of the description of the mystery Ficus 52406 from North Queensland. I've read that there are 45 Ficus species native to Australia. But I thought it was worth a shot posting this, to see if anyone might recognize what species Ficus 52406 might be, particularly some of the Australian readers of the forum. Any ideas?

-Craig

(original 1925 report: http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1925-vol-38/92-97_Mowry.pdf)



Have you asked around over at OurFigs.com   great Fig gurus there

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: December mango haul
« on: December 21, 2015, 11:32:10 AM »
Mark, I asked Leo about the Nata fruit and he said it was good but it was a bit over ripe when he ate it. It also turns out that the fruit Leo wanted me to try was Leo 2 which he had already given me on my previous visit.

I took a look at the special variety that Leo is growing, the one that some people rated as perhaps the best variety in Leos yard and there are only a few smaller branches left so I won't mention the name of this variety for fear that too many people will request scions from Leo. I will offer to put this variety on another tree for Leo once it warms up.

Amazingly, Leo still has lots of Mangos hanging on his trees. His NDM was eaten at a perfect stage of ripeness(IMO) and had a Brix of 22%. Although NDM is very simple sweet in terms of flavor, it does have a slight nectar flavor and aroma that can be detected by those with a good palate. I also love the silky smooth texture of the flesh. The NDM is an excellent tasting sweet mango in the month of December.






Maybe it's me...But the NDM is no simple Sweet flavor...It taste nothing even remotely close a yellow/honey Mango...It's in its own flavor category as it taste like no other Mango and has a mouth watering Sweetness that reminds me of eating candy of some sort... IMO it does have some complexity and a Unique sweet flavor that I love....yes it lacks acidity and 80 percent of all my Mangos split this season which NDM seems to be known for...but it's a killer Mango!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: December mango haul
« on: December 17, 2015, 09:35:54 PM »
JF, we are so lucky to have Leo. I look forward to your report on RH#2 and Villasenor.

Thanks for the confirmation Mark, I have one more seedling#4 and it is ripening more evenly, I like to eat this one very firm from my limited experience with it.

Clay, that is awesome you got to try Sweet Tart, especially in your climate. I hope you will be able to keep a few small trees wherever you wind up. It appears ST is fairly consistently excellent when grown in SoCal from the limited reports received so far.

Future, the future is limited by our imagination and how hard we strive to push the boundaries. At first, I thought Winter mangos wouldn't be worth the effort because I assumed muted flavores and lack of sweetness but with refractometer busting Brix readings and top tier flavor from specific varieties, I hope more people will realize Winter Mangos are worth the effort.

Simon

Simon I ate my 3rd one day!!! Think I nailed whatever possible ripeness I could achieve given the cold mango season.... this one was ate more firm over the last 2 in hopes to get some of that Tart component.... Indeed I did.... Flesh was typical of a ripe Mango despite it's firmness, instead of pure sweetness, I got Sweet/Tart fusion melody that made my taste buds seize with a surge of deliciousness....I cant imagine what a Summer ripened ST would do to me!!!!!!!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: December mango haul
« on: December 16, 2015, 01:10:09 PM »
Decided to go ahead and pull the plug on all 5 of my Sweet Tart Mangoes with all the 30 degree lows we've been having including the cold snap last night.


Initially pulled all mangoes when i checked one mango which had some discoloration where it had yellowed up...the yellow now became this dark mottled Pattern which i hope is just external damage to the skin...Sap was literally coming out of the poors on this mango... Nonetheless..... To my surprise in pulling these Mangoes...2 of them were already ripe, with some tender areas when touched, regardless of them only having a small 20 percent yellowing... Both Fruits were slightly overripe with a bright orangish center...flavor was extremely Sweet, yet had hardly any tart component...assuming this is from inadequate levels of ripening due to the cold, being over ripened, and a young tree..still a very delicious, sweet, unique flavor.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Johnsons Cold Hardy Mangosteens!!!
« on: December 10, 2015, 08:46:55 PM »
    I'm so sorry to hear about Roger Meyer passing . When  did he pass ? He will be greatly missed 😢  I hope that he's tending to the " tree  of  life  "  in heaven.


 William

It looks like he passed away on 11/22/15. I have bought a number of trees from him and can say He was a very good man.


ohhhh no... I bought quite a  few Cherimoya trees from him last year.... he shared so much information with me as well and was great to talk too....RIP Roger.

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that's bad business, but that's none of my business.... Damn i need a  Kermit MEME for that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: December mango haul
« on: December 05, 2015, 10:49:37 PM »
Gosh Simon - how does he have mangoes hanging on his trees this late?
I'm flabbergasted!


Gary


Fang I just ate a Nam Doc Mai and have 5 Sweet Tart on my tree that should be ready soon... they even survived a 33 degree frost.

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I'm waiting for someone to test these trees out. until then.......

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