Quote from: ClayMango on April 14, 2015, 05:44:38 PM

Can anyone comment on the different Morus Nigras out there? Black Beauty, Noir de spain, Black Persian?

I have a weeping, a Pakistan, and a Persian, not sure the latin names, but all are fairly common in so cal nurseries.  I would rate them in that order as well with Persian being the best.  I'm debating getting a white one, Papaya tree nursery claims to have one with great flavor.

The Pakistan has an incredible almost Rasperry sweetness to me, The Weeping Mulberry is one of the most bland tasting fruits I have ever tried....Can't wait to try one of the Nigras!!!!!   I ordered a special White Vareity Mulberry from Whitmans Farm that Lucille doesn't have listed on her Website, she says it's her best so i'll find out in a couple of years.

I want to try more variaties,but I just made a mulberry pie from a potted mulberry
label Thai from excaliber. A fast growing tree. It was as good as any I had when I was
a kid in Palm Beach in the 1940s

I'm the same way! I have only had the dark colored Pakistan, which had an incredible ultrasweet Rasberry Flavor without the horrible Rasberry seeds... Will definitely be buying an Improved Cookes selection Pakistan from LE Cookes... But I'm stoked about the Noir De Spain I just ordered more than anything... According to some people, they consider the Morus Albas bland or just sweet tasting to some of the Nigras such as Black Persian...well I fell in love with the Morus Alba Pakistan...I can only imagine what Persian or Noir De Spain taste like which is supposedly packed with sweetness and acidity which all the Albas lack.

Is this what you are looking for, ClayMango?

http://www.logees.com/dwarf-mulberry-dwarf-everbearing-morus-nigra.html

http://www.treesofantiquity.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=277

Morus Nigra...terrible labeling that seems to also cause tremendous confusion....In most cases "I think" Morus Nigra classifies Mulberries into the dark colored Mulberry category such as the Black Persian, Black beauty, and Noir De Spain...all Morus Nigras. The ones you linked dont really fall under the others as they are not dwarfs... Black Persian and Noir De Spain reach up 30-40ft, Black Beauty is the most Dwarfish coming in at 15-20 ft.... but again I believe Morus Nigra is just classifying them as dark Berries....same as Morus Alba's being white.

A link to some of the varietites out there. 
http://www.whitmanfarms.com/category/allplants/edible-plants/mulberries/

Can anyone comment on the different Morus Nigras out there? Black Beauty, Noir de spain, Black Persian?

I just ate my first Mulberry last weekend. It was a long 3 inch Pakistan Berry.... Dear God this fruit is amazing with perfect sweetnss. literally Wipes the floor with the berry family...Blueberries, blackberries, Raspberries...easily! This fruit is easily a top 10 fruit and possibly a tie for top 5!!!!

It seems Mulberries are underated or just aren't well known throughout the U.S. like other good fruit out there. Can anyone give their top 5 Mulberries please? I hear the Morus Nigra's are the best varities becuase they pack a super punch of sweetness and acidity? I'm currently looking to purchase Pakistan, Black beauty, Persian, and Noir de Spain...and end up doing a Cocktail tree for all these varieties since they can get big.

Quote from: ClayMango on April 09, 2015, 10:32:46 PM

What if we had an Edward Snowden out there leaking new Mango trees to the public and someone did have an OS out there circulating???

Please take it to the Off Topic forum.

It was just  a joke...for Gods sake lighten up and take that stick out your ass.

good luck with your peaches ClayMango!! The ones I have are the Belle of Georgia peach (that's flowering/fruiting a lot this year too) and the Red Haven peach..how does your varieties taste? Is the Barron peach a white or red peach? My dad has a Saturn (donut) peach too and it fruits almost every year.. He doesn't take care of it much so probably that's why not every year.. Oh, which of your cherimoyas didn't make it through the winter? I thought you had protected all of them already in your other post.. or were those only the mangos?

Careful, do not confuse the Donut Saturn with the regular Saturn...2 Different varieties.

Red Baron and Saturn are both yellow/ Red peaches with some blush. very juice and tasty.

Obtaining a  Smith Cutting from a very generous Ourfigs forum member.....love that place.

The dog sniffers got my last Smith, received the letter yesterday....poor thing was incinerated.

Thanks to mystery man that tried to help me out though!

Quote from: ClayMango on April 02, 2015, 01:11:48 PM

Quote from: gunnar429 on April 02, 2015, 12:06:11 PM

Got some seedless mandarins sold as cuties.  They are good.  Upon researching, they appear to be either clementine or murcott.  I was under the impression that the murcott/honey mandarin was the honey sweet, round, seedy fruits I inhale 3 at a time all winter.  Are the cuties in the market today murcotts?

Thanks

I have the California Honey, Gold Nugget, Tango (seedless murcott Honey), and Kishu ( sweeter and smller than cuties)....

That tree will be replaced by a mango, lychee, paw paw, or Fig.

How does this answer Jeff's question?

I have seen satsumas and murcotts sold under Cuties.  I have a feeling the use the best available product to be sold under the label at that time.  With that said, not sure if Honey Sweet is the same as Murcott/Honey Murcott.   I have a really good publication that should be able to answer this but its at work.

Generally in California, cuties are composed of mainly the "Clementine", then the Tango and murcott depending on the season.

Got some seedless mandarins sold as cuties.  They are good.  Upon researching, they appear to be either clementine or murcott.  I was under the impression that the murcott/honey mandarin was the honey sweet, round, seedy fruits I inhale 3 at a time all winter.  Are the cuties in the market today murcotts?

Thanks

I have the California Honey, Gold Nugget, Tango (seedless murcott Honey), and Kishu ( sweeter and smller than cuties)....

That tree will be replaced by a mango, lychee, paw paw, or Fig.

Quote from: bsbullie on April 01, 2015, 02:59:45 PM

A ripe "Excalibur" Mahachanok.

Will the real Mahachanok please stand up.  Yep.....those look pretty authentic to me.  They are just like mine.

Yall act like yall never seen Mahachanok before
Excalibur burst through door
Said "hey we got em store"

I'm sure just about every Corporate exec high on the totem pole all have nice contracts which safeguard them in these kind of situations which include high payouts and benefits. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.