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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unusual So Cal Weather
« on: January 15, 2014, 07:05:50 PM »
It's a little Funky over here in Temecula Valley as well. Mid 40's in the morning....Upper 80's in the daytime..almost feels like I'm back in Central Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 13, 2014, 10:48:31 PM »
Oh wow you and MangoFang are right around the Corner.

Thanks for your service by the way...I've been in 6 years now (E-5 Petty Officer).. 2 WestPacs, 3 RimPacks, a ton of underways and work ups. I haven't been deployed in almost  2 years so I might need to get my sea legs back lol.

I think my choices are pretty good, but then again this is based off pure feedback and not my own. I have some how convinced my Mother and law to host a few more varieties at her house that I cant fit in....It appears 5 trees just aint going to cut it lol

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 13, 2014, 06:00:17 PM »

I think at 20 trees, you have to strike gold sooner at later lol. I envy you!!!

Hopefully I'll have my own minature grove growing soon as well... Already have several mature trees growing solid here in backyard including 2 Red Barron Peach,  Saturn Peach,  Mexican Lime, Blood Orange, San Anna Plum, Pear (unknown), Anna Dorsett Apple, Cherry tree (unknown), and now for the last filler!!!! Mangos....First in Temecula with a LZ!?!?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM »
JF, I would love to come down to your Mango Festivals and try all of Zills creations and top vareietys.. I even have family in the Daytona Beach area....small town called Deland.

However I just bought a house, and funds are definately stretched thin lol pLus I will most  likely be deployed in the Navy for next Humanaitarian tour we do in Spring that will be about 6 months long...I got my fingers crossed that we dont go...But if Duty calls...Duty calls...

For now I am trusting all of the top flavors based on pure Feedback from you Mango specialist....Picks seem to vary in some cases...However I keep seeing the same top selections mentioned more than the others.....So for now.... LZ, Sweet Tart, Coco Cream, Carrie, Malika     Nam Doc Mai and Maha Chanok are still duking it out with Malika...The forums have spoken lol But Damn JF it sure would be nice to taste some of these Mango Gods for my own opinion and selection.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 12, 2014, 04:21:48 PM »
So you have  a few cocktail trees growing? I might need to really look into this once the trees I buy at Top Tropicals gets established.

So if start grafting some of these Florida and Indian Varieties to say a Manilla rootstalk. 1) it may grow a little better and tolerate the weather a bit more for my region? 2) I can have a nice 20 ft Monster like JF's one day with a Mango connoisseur's dream tree of LZ, Sweet Tart, Coco Cream....all on one tree?

Sorry for the Noob questions guys....But rain or case...Frost.....I will taste a  LZ from my own backyard if its the last thing I do.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 12, 2014, 04:12:07 PM »

After seeing that 25 ft Behemoth Monster of yours 9 poor neighbor next door lol), I might to need scale my top 5 list to 4...maybe even 3....depending on how vigorous the LZ and CoCo cream are.

JF I'm sure you have a Consistent supply of mangos for the season with that beast....definitely seems like your neighbor has half of the share as well. lol

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango
« on: January 11, 2014, 10:05:14 AM »
Sorry guys...Yeah I meant the Maha  Chanok.

Hmm now I've been hearing  a lot of stuff about grafting and rootstock and other things. I am complete newb at gardening, brand new homeowner without any experience in planting trees.... So this root stock and grafting is like Rocket science to me....So it seems I need to start watching a few videos for grafting.

So what I'm hearing is there is a chance I can graft these Florida trees onto a more cold hearty Mango such as the Manilla? Ou Climate is a little more different here in the valley compared to say San Diego which is paradise 70-80 degrees year round..... We get extremely hot Summers of around 90-100 which can last into fall. The Winters here seem a bit scary dipping to 32 a few days during the season....However in 2007 there was that 20 year freeze where it dropped to 22 degrees....But that seems to happen every Decade or so.

So with your suggestions... My top 5 has just become LZ, Sweet Tart, Coconut Cream, Carrie, and Malika.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango
« on: January 10, 2014, 07:59:48 PM »
Please Help me God,

Mango newb here. I have scoured the forums looking at  many reviews in the search for the top 5 mangoes that I'll attempt to grow here in SOCAL.

I thought i came up with a great top 5 list based on a lot of feedback (many of you are in this thread) consisting of LZ, CoCo Cream, Carrie, Malika, and Miha

After reading this appears i need to make room for Sweet Tart on my small property of a quarter acre...Looks like Miha is getting cut.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 10, 2014, 06:23:44 PM »
Mango Fang,

I'm actually in zip 92563..Not sure if my info is posted wrong in here... I'm literally on the Murrieta/ Temecula city line.

After browsing Temecula/ Murrieta  Weather records, It seems as if we get weather dropping down to 32 or a tad bit below for only a couple hours a  few days out of the winter season. However it appears we get the 15-20 year Cold snap happening every decade or so. Alltime record low happened in JAN 2007 hitting 22 degrees.

If weather drops to 22... Highly doubt my trees would survive...maybe with 4 space heaters in each tree wrapped with a 400 sqft freeze cloth....Highly unrealistic. but if i can grow these trees for 8-15 years enjoying the fine Mangos you Floridans tease us with....It would be well worth it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos bloom in SoCal
« on: January 10, 2014, 11:53:24 AM »
Love the photos!!! So many Mangoes on that Tree!!! I could give Mangoes to everyone on my Cul De Sac .I can't wait till I purchase my trees This Spring.. Seels like they will grow a lot better here in Hot Temecula compared to 70-80 degree year round San Diego... Just fearing the winters we get. Hopefully the 7 gallon trees i buy will start blooming withing a year or 2.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tasting in La Habra CA September 11
« on: January 09, 2014, 01:43:21 PM »
Nam Doc mai was also in the top 5 battle with Malika and Miha...Clearly Malika earned its place after beating out LZ from yalls Sept sampling... So I'm thinking it's a battle between Miha and Nam Doc mai to fit that 5th spot.... Time to scour the Forums and see where they place...If only i can taste them for myself. :'(

I've also ruled out Orange Sherbet because of it being argued that it's too similar to LZ. Also ruled out Pineapple Pleasure , another new variety just released..Not sure if I'm into a tart Mango tasting similar to Pineapple...I need sweet balance. However Mr. Professor has a variety called Pineapple Mango that i would like to try for myself.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tasting in La Habra CA September 11
« on: January 09, 2014, 01:19:51 PM »
Thanks Simon,

Unfortunately I'm just a novice.... Brand new Home owner without any experience growing plants and trees. However my Green Thumb looks to be getting Greener witth the Landscape. But I'd say I'm a long ways off before i start grafting anything.

This is my First Winter in Temecula and we haven't broke 32 but maybe once for an hour this year... However The record lows i read up on gives me chills lol Seems like I will need to purchase somehting from mango Professor, but i still have my eye on LZ, Coco cream and Carrie. Has anyone here in the SOCAL region tryed any of Mango Professors Amazing trees?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tasting in La Habra CA September 11
« on: January 09, 2014, 10:06:15 AM »
Thanks JF!

I left Mango Professor an email and he got back with me ASAP and told me of all his great cultivars created for the valley climate we have in Southern Ca that will survive the random 25 degree snaps we can get through the years. Looks like their  in High Demand too...2 of the best selling varieties he has are on Back order until 2015 FML... Has anyone had a chance to sample Mango Professors great creations? I'm sure they taste amazing.

I still don't want to rule out LZ, Coco Cream, and Carrie...Also Malika seems to be top nothc as well considering it beat out LZ on your last mango sampling you guys held in SEPT. 

However thanks JF for bringing it to my attention.. I would be devasted paying so much for these trees investing time and money just to see them die after several years during a  cold snap.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tasting in La Habra CA September 11
« on: January 08, 2014, 05:01:48 PM »
Well....I'm assuming there's no freeze cloth to cover a 15-20 ft tree is there lol.... I've been doing a little research and im hearing a few tales of heat generators, christsmas lights, hard mulching covering the base of the trunk...

Top tropicals is telling me not to worry once they mature, just ot keep them potted for a year or 2 and garage them on days of frost. She told me mature Mango trees can withstand cold temps below freezing for a couple of hours....Then again she could be just trying to sell me a few trees.

Other than that i really have no clue as to my options... The only other thing i can think of is to but condo sized trees and keep them garaged during the cold snaps...But that would take my Dream Mangoes LZ, CoCo Cream, and Carrie right off the list....such a delimma.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tasting in La Habra CA September 11
« on: January 08, 2014, 10:32:58 AM »
I'm a little curious to the spacing on these trees? Seems to be a little close, but im no expert. I'm also in zone 9B Ca in Temecula Valley (dessert sun). My property is about a quarter acre and definately would like to have a few mango trees..... Wasn't sure i could space as close as these pictures shown... I plan on getting a LZ, COCO cream, Carrie, and probly ether Malika, Maha, or NAM for the last 3. However... I think i need at least 10 foot spacing. If i can squeeze it down to 7 ft spacing, I can have my own Mango Grove Paradise.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lemon zest vigor or lack thereof
« on: January 08, 2014, 10:21:36 AM »
Mango Fang,

I'm out in Temecula Valley, about 45 min from Riverside if that gives you an idea. I think your not that far from where I'm at.

Seems like your LZ is growing pretty will in this climate out here.  Question...Do you have this clay soil out there....Gets rock hard when dry...Sorta mucky and sometimes sticky when wet??? Just curious if you have been amending the soil at all, mulching, etc ? could use some advice on getting started.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lemon zest vigor or lack thereof
« on: January 07, 2014, 11:44:45 PM »
Hopefully Top Tropicals will get a 7 gallon in the Lemon Zest and CoCo Cream so I can have a year head start on the 3 gallons. I want to purchase  at least 3 trees at once so I can make the most  of the cross country shipping fee.... LZ, CoCo Cream, and Carrie seems to be the trio of the Gods based on forum feedback... Other front runners would be Nam Doc Mai, Malika, and maybe Maha.... But hands down LZ will be the first round draft pick.... "Mango Guru" Jeff said it has no contenders....most people here seem to agree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lemon zest vigor or lack thereof
« on: January 07, 2014, 08:23:21 PM »
Jeff after reading this thread from page 1....Looks like I'll be lucky to reach 10 feet in 20 years with the LZ Growing habit...Especially in My Zone 9b SOCAL....I'm more valley/Desert than say San Diego which lives in 70/80 degree paradise year round....Our Sumers our identical to Central Florida without the rain and Humidity........I'm going to Mulch my ass off, compost about 5 foot hole  blend to help this Clay....Hope for the best...I'm hearing some horror stories from Florida growers...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lemon zest vigor or lack thereof
« on: January 05, 2014, 06:30:36 PM »
Can anyone here give me the roundabout size of what LZ  will grow too? I'm really stretching space on my property and would rather not grow a tree along the fence line and invade the neighbors property. I was hoping I could plant contain it within 15-20 this possible?

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