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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Worm composting 101
« on: May 23, 2013, 12:45:02 AM »
Thank you Rodney.  Very useful information.  How much compost do you use in the nylon stocking? 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Worm composting 101
« on: May 22, 2013, 11:59:29 PM »
Excellent worm composting tutorial Rodney!  I have a worm bin, but I haven't done a whole lot with it other than keep feeding the worms and adding more bedding.  I have't really harvested any of the compost.  What I really want to learn is your vermicompost tea regimine and process.  I made a tea brewer a few years back for regular compost, but haven't used it for quite a while and would like to hear some of your tips.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: May 19, 2013, 04:02:07 PM »
Hi Gary,

I just harvested my last fruit about a week ago.  They all held on the tree over the winter from last year.  I suppose it just takes that long to ripen?  My atemoya is full of flowers right now as well.  Does it just ripen faster in Florida?  Glad to hear that Geffner is creamy and not chewy.  I'd like to try that one one day.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: May 12, 2013, 01:02:22 PM »
That looks delicious Harvey!  I wish had started off years ago with with a larger tree instead of a smaller one. :(  Still no flowers in sight for me.

The family and I were at the arboretum yesterday plenty of flowers and no ripe fruit yet.


Please put me down for one perforated roll.


33.2 lbs

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 26, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »
Thank you for the pix Mike.  It certainly doesn't look like we're even comparing the same fruit.  The African Pride in Australia seems like a completely different fruit than the ones here.  I wonder who has the real one.  There could have been a mix up here or over there as many of the African Prides here look very similar to mine it seems.

I think I'll keep the atemoya tree around in a pot, but I really enjoy cherimoya considerably more.  One day, I hope I'll get to try my own Rollina fruit.

Sorry to hear about that Adam.  The same thing happened to me last year in my mini greenhouse.  I got a Mexican Garcinia, Garcinia intermedia,  yellow grumichama, regular grumichama, and a cambuca all trimmed back to make a rat nest.  I was very satisfied to catch it in a trap.  The good news out of all this, I found that the yellow grumichama rooted quite easily by sticking it back in the soil.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 18, 2013, 11:19:41 PM »
Thank you JF for the confirmation.  I believe the consensus is African Pride.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 17, 2013, 11:54:52 PM »
Well, they're finally ripe.  This is my first time tasting an atemoya.  The flesh around the seeds are a little chewy and around that is creamy like a cherimoya.  Although they taste quite nice, I find that I like cherimoya considerably better.  Don't get me wrong, I've had bad tasting cherimoyas and this atemoya is much better tasting than that... if that makes any sense.  :o :P

Here are pictures of the fruit:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 10, 2013, 12:29:23 PM »
Thank you for everyone's imput.  Bernitsky is difficult to find a good picture of, but it's not a variety that I have ever seen sold in California.

The nursery that I purchased my tree from as I recall, mentioned that it was an Israeli variety often grown and sold in Taiwan.  This information could be an assumption or misinformation for all I know.

That being said, another local nursery has a picture on their website that shows a picture of an African Pride Atemoya.  It's probabaly the closest look to mine.

Thanks again, I'll update on taste and take a picture of the inside when they're ready.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 09, 2013, 06:42:40 PM »
Thank you Mike T.  They do seem to have some similarities but still look different.  Yours is very uniform in shape as well.  Whatever they are, I just hope they taste good.  How much longer would you say before it's ripe for the picking?

They certainly seem to range in shape (pics from google search):

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 09, 2013, 01:01:26 AM »
Thank you Thera for the tips.  However, African Pride would be bad, as I just grafted African Pride on that tree.  Kind of redundant  :'(

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Geffner or African Pride Atemoya?
« on: April 09, 2013, 12:25:05 AM »
I was told that these were Atemoya from Israel.  I naturally assumed Geffner as a possibility.  Can anyone help me identify if these are indeed Geffner or perhaps African Pride by chance?  Also, how do I know if these are ready to eat?  They're naturally on the lighter green side, so it doesn't appear that they have gotten any lighter in color.  These are all from the same tree, so I hope it will be helpful to identify.  Thanks for your assistance.

Here's also one of a supposed Dr. White seedling.  Although the leaves certainly look like a cherimoya (sorry no actual leaves in the picture), the shape of the fruit looks kinda atemoya-ish?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jakfruit in March
« on: April 08, 2013, 11:13:07 PM »

I saw Jackfruits by the pallet here this past weekend in So. California.  They're from Mexico and selling for $0.79/per pound.  I was tempted to buy one, but didn't feel like doing all the cleaning.  :-\

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: March 25, 2013, 10:50:49 PM »
Welcome and congratulations Harvey!  It looks much bigger than the last picture I saw of it in 2011.  I've yet to get a single flower on any of mine :(.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Jaboticaba
« on: March 07, 2013, 12:05:56 PM »
What is the source of your M. grandiflora?


I got them from a source in Israel of all places.  I was only able to find a cached listing of these seeds.  There's some nice pics.

Thanks for the confirmation Adam.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Jaboticaba
« on: March 06, 2013, 11:08:40 PM »
they're totally the bat, I see there's hair on your grandifolia...and I bet the veins on the undersides of the leaves are much more salient on the grandifolia...

take a gander and report your findings!


Here is the backside of the M. grandiflora.  It does appear that the veins are more prominent than M. vexator.  However the leaves seem more narrow than yours?  Perhaps because mine are from young seedling leaves vs. your mature leaves?

Here is the back of the M. vexator for comparison.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Jaboticaba
« on: March 04, 2013, 12:24:18 AM »
Good eye Adam!  I didn't notice fuzzy on the leaves shining from the sun.  I'll have to take a better look tomorrow of the underside of the leaves.

Thanks Oscar, I'm anxious to see your leaves as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cocktail Jaboticaba
« on: March 03, 2013, 11:52:36 PM »
I collect the different Plinia/Myrciaria just for having different foliage.

Here is a group of pics that shows the differences thereof.

When I saw the paulista M. cauliflora, I had to have I cut off 3 branches from my buddy Ed's tree..and now I have 3 Paulista trees.  The leaves are really something else.

Here are some varieties I don't quite know about...(i'm uploading some of these pics for a friend who is helping me identify these, so please pardon my posts if they seem a bit redundant).


same as above

Hi Adam,

Here's a picture of my seedlings of M. grandifolia.  The two on the bottom are suposed to be M. grandifolia and the two on top are M. vexator that I received from you.  They seem nearly identical to me... no?


Did you ever get a chance to take pictures of the leaves of your M. grandifolia?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitahaya
« on: February 28, 2013, 04:39:56 PM »
Thailand has no restrictions for importing plants as far as i know. But to be sure i better ask it to some people around me or maybe somebody on this forum knows the rules exactly.

Hi bangkok,

You could probably get a hold of Sainarong from the Yahoo Pitaya Fruit Group as he is in Thailand and he has his own red fleshed varieties growing as well as many of the American varieties.  I forget which part of Thailand he's in, but he may be a good source for you.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitahaya
« on: February 27, 2013, 10:44:26 AM »
Hi NullZ,

I just barely planted it in the ground last summer and it's only about 2 or 3 ft tall with no branching.  Hopefully soon it'll start growing and branching.  I'll let you know.


I have been growing the Zamorano for a few years and it's pretty productive.  The fruit has a nice balance of sweet and tart.  It's not a huge fruit... maybe less than a pound.  I'm trying to recall, but I don't think it has been self-fertile for me.  The times when I only had flowers from Zamorano, it didn't produce a fruit when hand-pollinated.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitahaya
« on: February 26, 2013, 09:26:50 PM »
Hi Luc,

I actually have one of these planted out from Leo.  It's been pretty slow growing for me so far, but I hope it speeds up this year.  I've yet to taste the fruit, but Leo says it's very tasty.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya taste-testing
« on: February 02, 2013, 12:38:23 AM »
I was there this morning, but I have to say I was a little underwhelmed by the taste in general.  As JF mentioned, it seems that the weather had a lot to do with that this year.  Some were way too ripe and others were barely soft.  That being said, I did enjoy El Bumpo, Lucida, and Orton quite a bit.

I had a couple of El Bumpos from my tree this year and it was mostly seeds and I wasn't that impressed by the taste.  At least from today's tasting, I know that it can taste better.  I also had several Honeyhart this year and they were pretty good.  I still have a Sabor on the tree and last year, it was excellent.

Below are some pictures I took of each fruits tasted today.  Some are a bit blurry, but you get the idea.  Others may have taken better pictures.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selma Cherimoya
« on: July 30, 2012, 04:41:04 PM »
Hi Ed,

I think I can help you out.  I'll send you an email.

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