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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: February 07, 2023, 12:10:52 AM »
I'll have to be happy with just longan. Phoenix 8.x pH soil, water and heat is just too much for any lychee variety.
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My kwai muk grew from 3ft in a 3gal pot to 7 ft after one year in the ground. It was also under a papaya for shade until recently when the papaya broke in half.
It grew long, but doesn't have many leaves. I guess it can grow in 8.2pH soil with lots of compost. I'm not sure it can survive this Phoenix summer without shade.
I got it from toptropicals. They call it Jesses Creme de la Creme. It doesn't look grafted and toptropocals doesn't say if it's airlayered or seedling. The root ball was too big for me to check for that.
I bought some seedling kwai muk from etsy and they grew slowly in cactus mix for a year. After I up-potted them in regular potting soil last summer they began to decline for some reason.
Maybe they needed more aeration in the soil, but the Jesses Creme de la Creme grew very well in the same regular potting soil. I'm baffled
Here's what my ugly tree looks like:
wow, your mango trees look great
All my loquats are pretty much done now. I will wait a few weeks more and no one else has any more loquat fruits for this year to provide comments on best tasting then I will post the rest of my taste comparisons.
As I mentioned, I started to take Brix reading a month into the fruits ripening for me so I didn't get to record all my varieties. I will say that the lowest Brix reading for 10 and today I tasted the highest Brix reading fruit of 23.
Brix of 23 is very high, it does appear that most of the time, when I do the group comparison the ones with the highest brix seems to come in top of the list for best tasting.
Yes Brad, Delores graft took so I have one good branch that is growing, thanks.
I found the best tasting guavas to be from Taiwan. Emperor and Crystal guava are elite selections and some of the best, if you can find a good air layer. Also Diamond guava from Exotica is very good.
I ate some Pearl guava, it is very crunchy and refreshing, but kind of bland. I never try Century guava. I prefer Crystal over Pearl guava, as Crystal has more flavor.I've lived in Taiwan before, and I ate tons of guava over there. People sell guava on the street as snacks that anyone can grab anytime.
As far as I remember, Crystal is good, but not creamy at all. It is more to crunchy type. I don't remember eating Emperor, maybe I did but just did not find it memorable.
The most tasty guava in Taiwan for me was Milk guava. Yes, they call it Niu Nai Pa Le in Mandarin, translated as Milk guava.
It is not creamy nor crunchy, just in between. Not super sweet, but enough sweet with no tartness or any other aftertaste. It has few seeds with very sweet soft inner part.
I actually been trying to find this variety here, but no one ever heard of it.
Do you remember eating Pearl or Century guavas in Taiwan? How good are they compared to Crystal?
The La Verne Nursery's Mexican Cream guava is sweet and very fragrant, but tiny fruit and unproductive. The fruit sometimes has pink blush in the white/yellow flesh. It is definitely different than the medium size Mexican Cream fruit I've seen on youtube and some websites. I'm not sure why they would graft and propagate something so unworthy.
Because thats what la verne does. They propogate a lot of mediocre avocados as well. The care mostly about making maximum $, not selling the best stuff.
Kaz, did your guava grafts take?
nullzero,
Ok good to hear more than a few people mentioning the Crystal seedless tastes good, I have a small graft on my tree. What is the Emperor guava and is it here in the USA?
I will need to visit Exotica and checkout the Diamond guava since I keep hearing he has many hard to find varieties. I did graft (but not sure if it will take yet) a white flesh guava that snowjunky said is a very sweet seedling plant called Steve's Super Sweet (SSS). This seedling was from Exotica.
I've lived in Taiwan before, and I ate tons of guava over there. People sell guava on the street as snacks that anyone can grab anytime.
As far as I remember, Crystal is good, but not creamy at all. It is more to crunchy type. I don't remember eating Emperor, maybe I did but just did not find it memorable.
The most tasty guava in Taiwan for me was Milk guava. Yes, they call it Niu Nai Pa Le in Mandarin, translated as Milk guava.
It is not creamy nor crunchy, just in between. Not super sweet, but enough sweet with no tartness or any other aftertaste. It has few seeds with very sweet soft inner part.
I actually been trying to find this variety here, but no one ever heard of it.
I did a quick taste test today with a person who hasn't tasted many mulberries. She is/was a nurse for me when I had some IV infusion at home. I let her taste the White Pakistan that was ripe, she liked it since it was very sweet. Then I let her taste the Black Pakistan, she said it was good but like the white pakistan better. The last ripe mulberry I had on the tree was the Sangue e Latte, she said it was the best flavor and she liked it the most. It is not as sweet as the White Pakistan but she said it has a very good taste which is different from the other two. I agree with her, it is different and tastes very good. I rate it right up there with Australian Green as the top 2 best tasting mulberry so far. I have not tasted any morius nigra (Persian, Black Beauty, Noir_De_Spain) since my grafts did not have any fruits this year so my favorite may change.