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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava from taiwan
« on: November 08, 2019, 12:47:49 AM »
Maybe it's the Crystal guava from Taiwan.  It's productive, almost seedless and is dwarf.  Some members say it's the best guava.

No they are all different especially if you like guavas.  Taiwan alone has more than 10 commercially important types of guava.  I'm still waiting to find out which variety my "Taiwan" guava that came from FL is.

Most of my guava cleft grafts have flattened graft unions, meaning poor graft unions.
Now I prefer bark graft.

Is there a better way than cleft when scion and rootstock thickness is the same?
Flattening cleft unions just means the scion is growing or thickening faster than the rootstock. 
This may be temporary and the union will grow round later when the rootstock catches up.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: T-Graft method
« on: March 27, 2019, 05:59:51 PM »
Air layering is better for many reasons for most guava varieties, but some guava varieties have very weak roots. 
I think Crystal Seedless might be one variety that grows better on another rootstock than on it's own roots.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where can I get a Tice Mulberry?
« on: March 23, 2019, 04:34:53 PM »
I've lost a Tice, White/Australian, and FL Giant to standing water (greater than 7 days). So this time I'm gonna grow them on mounds 1-1.5 ft high. I don't think they are drought tolerant. Even in pots they require moist soil or else the leaves go droopy.

All my mulberries except for the morus nigra are drought tolerant here in the Phoenix desert.  More drought tolerant than figs and citrus.  Only my cactus, jujubes and pomegranates are tougher.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where can I get a Tice Mulberry?
« on: March 22, 2019, 05:45:53 PM »
I remember meeting the guy who developed the "Tice" mulberry at a CRFG-festival of fruit many years ago and for the life of me I can not remember the alternative name that Tice also goes by but there is another name!!
Any body out there have that other name?
Old fruit brains seem to ferment :-[

Is it Shangri La?  They seem similar in description: large fruit, delicious, big leaves and from Florida.

It was supposed to be Lua Ranch, a productive seedless guava.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / B10 starfruit budwood wanted
« on: March 06, 2019, 12:59:23 PM »
Looking for B-10 carambola scions.

I'm willing to buy or trade. This is what I have in budwood, but a few are seedlings:
Stone fruits - black boy, mid pride, florida prince, eva's pride, tropic snow, santa barbara, august pride, artic star, flavor grenade, splash, emerald drop
Figs - Col de Dame Blanc, Negronne, Desert King, Adriatic JH, Panache, Marseille Black vs
Pomegranates - Parfianka, Ariana, Purple Heart, Desertnyi, Gissarski Rozovyi
Persimmon - giant hanafuyu, fuyu
Apples - fuji, williams pride, tropic sweet, sundowner (cripps red)
Avocado - Mexicola, Day
Loquat - mcbeth, tanaka, argelino, novak, kanko
Mulberry - cooke's pakistan, tice, tehama, shangri la, black beauty, gerardi
Che melonberry
Jujube - sugarcane, shanxi li, sihong, chico, tigertooth, autumn beauty, black sea, taiwan giant(Indian)
Guavas - peruvian, mexican cream, ong, arabian, taiwan, crystal
Pineapple Guava - nazemetz, mammoth, apollo
Star fruit - kari, fwang tung, sri kembangang, bell
White Sapote - vernon, rainbow, malibu #3, walton, redlands
Sapodilla - alano, silas woods, makok
Mango - mallika, carrie, Maha Chanok, duncan, fairchild, pickering, ice cream, amrapali, honey kiss, rosigold
Longan - Kohala, biwe kiew, fortune eye
Jambolan (java plum)
Wampee - Chi Hsin (guy sam / chicken heart), rock candy
Monkey Orange - spiny(Strychnos Spinosa)
Mexican Garcinia (Luc's)
Psidium Guineense
Eugenia - Surinam, Pitangatuba, Cherry otRG
Orangeberry (Gin Berry)
Marula - female, male
Barbados Cherry
Bael fruit

Did you get to taste the Avri fruit and what did you think? Avri never tasted good for me the last 3 or 4 years that I've grown it, and my location gets a good amount of heat, being 40 miles inland. Last year it was one of the last to ripen. I left them on the tree to ripen more since they were tart, but the squirrels figured out how to get into the netting and ate them.
I did get the Tanaka to graft. I don't remember eating it. Maybe this year. I didn't check to see if it has fruits.

I've never tasted Avri and I never will now that you say it's avriage.  I will topwork it to an Argelino.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Leo Manuel's Maurice Kong seedling loquat
« on: February 20, 2019, 06:27:54 PM »
Robert, they're big because of the cluster size. The tree naturally drops most of the fruits leaving a handful or less to ripen in each cluster. The Japanese should grow this so they don't have to manually remove fruits, if you've seen how they grow these and put little "socks" on the few remaining ones.

I have to ask my uncle what color the inside is. The tree belongs to his friend in San Jose. I should be able to ask for scions. My seedling is still a single stick that I put in the ground late last year.

I actually don't have a Big Jim grafted despite it being so common. It's good to have as a standard for comparison. For all we know a lot of the large good loquats could just be Big Jim since it's the one being sold at Home Depot.

Jim has several varieties he grew from seed that were pretty good as well. I only have the
Jazzy and Jim's Big White take despite several years of trying. I hope Mark Lee or someone close to him is helping keep these varieties going. The Jim's Big White tastes pretty good and is white-fleshed. The white fleshed ones go from acidic to sweet as they ripen. I think the taste is better than the orange fleshed ones that don't have much acidity.

I got some fruits from the Avri this year and they're large and orange-fleshed. The mediocre quality could be because it's the first year. They went from watery sweet to fairly sweet as they ripened.

Have you tried the Champagne loquat? I first tasted one from Dennis Sharmahd and it was really good. It's white fleshed. My family thinks it tastes weird because it tastes like pear rather than loquat.

Hi Fang, how did your Avri loquat taste last year 2018?  Same as 2017 or better?
I have an Avri I grafted last year, but I'm think of grafting McBeth or Argelino over it if Avri is just average. 
Did you successfully graft the Tanaka scion I sent you a few years back?  If so how does it compare to the your other loquats?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeeds
« on: February 06, 2019, 12:31:47 PM »
Nice list of mulberries!  Where did you get your Thai Dwarf mulberry from?  How does it taste compared to your other mulberries? 
Does it have large fruit and super productive like flyingfoxfruits Adam's Thai Dwarf?  Here are his pics:

There's another guy in FL that has a Thai Dwarf he calls World's Best.  Here's his video:

Read on a couple websites that pink guavas might be slightly more cold hardy than white guavas.  Can anyone confirm or refute this?

I'm also curious about the white Cuban guava that Toptopicals and some nurseries sell.  Does it taste good? How does it compare to other guavas?

I've bought other guavas from toptrop:
Peruvian - sweet soft mediun size fruit, lacks acidity, low seed count, very productive
Barbie Pink - low on flavor and sweetness(probably should have gotten the Ruby Supreme)
Tikal - very productive, low on flavor and sweetness

Mexican Cream - strong sweet smell and taste, small soft fruit, not productive at all.  They seem to like it more in CA where it's cooler.  Maybe Mexican Cream doesn't need as much heat to sweeten up.
White guava from Exotica Nursery in Ca - Steve told me it's seedless and productive, but it turned out to be seeded.  He told me later his guavas are seedlings.  At first I was disappointed until the 3rd year when the large white guavas on this tree became super sweet with some tartness too.  They are super flavorful even when they are still crunchy.  Best damn guava I've ever had is what most people say when they try it.  I'm not sure how much the desert heat and sun here in Phoenix has to do with the fruit quality.  I might be ordinary grown elsewhere.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Mangoes in Florida
« on: January 23, 2019, 12:51:48 AM »
Oscar and JF have Amrapali.  I got scions from Oscar.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I'm 4 Imbe
« on: January 22, 2019, 08:42:24 PM »
Strange some of you had imbe trees with shallow or wimpy root systems.  All my imbes had extremely long tap roots when I took them out of pots to plant in the ground.  The tap roots are at least twice as long as the top is tall.  So a 2 foot tall imbe has a 4 foot tap root.  I dug extra deep holes to plant them, yet I still had to coil the tap roots to make them fit in the holes.  They don't however have very many fibrous roots.

My two biggest imbes are 10ft tall, but still no flowers.  They've been in the ground for 3 years and are probably 5 or 6 years old.
Some useful info from my experience is that they:
*survived 25F low with a few 5 gallon buckets of water next to them. Only leaves and small twigs damage.
*can withstand full day summer Phoenix sun and heat, which is impressive.
*grow well in the 8+pH clay soil and hard water here
*have some iron or zinc deficiency like citrus does here.

I know some people have grafted Luc's Mexican and achachairu to imbe.  Did it work and did it grow long term?  Please share your knowledge!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lucuma grafted on Canistel
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:57:35 PM »
Hi All,
Is Lucuma compatible with Canistel rootstock long term?
Does anyone know of a healthy Lucuma on Canistel rootstock?
Canistel can grow in a large container here in Phoenix, AZ, but Lucumas die for some reason.
Lucumas die even before it gets hot.  It might be the very hard water or some public water chemical or something.
Using a tougher rootstock makes more sense than trying to use filtered water.

Thank you for any info,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Luc's Mexican Mangosteen grafted on Imbe
« on: January 14, 2019, 03:45:26 PM »
Hi All,
Is Luc's Mexican Garcinia compatible with Imbe rootstock long term?
Does anyone know of a healthy Luc's Mexican Garcinia on Imbe rootstock?

I have two 10ft tall Imbes in the ground that still haven't flowered.  How long do Imbes take to flower?
So I'm thinking of grafting Luc's Garcinia to them. 
I have a 3 year old Luc's seedling that's 10" tall, no kidding.  They grow so slowly here in Phoenix, AZ.
Imbe is the only garcinia that I know of that grows well in our 8+pH clay soil and take the Phoenix sun and summer heat. 
It's also cold hardy down to 25 degrees.
If they are compatible long term, then Luc's would probably be better off on Imbe rootstock than on it's own roots.

Thanks for any info.

Ok Ill have shot at the sequence of deaths due to cold with increasing exposure.Rollinia is first to go,then mamey sapote,sugar apple,jackfruit,mango,lychee,sapodilla and atemoya.

You are saying Sapodilla and Atemoya handle frost/freezing temps
better than Lychee ?

ive never had either, though i did have 2 small cherimoya which i lost

Here in Phoenix AZ my Alano is about as hardy as my Kohala longan.
According to some people Alano is a bit more cold hardy than other sapodillas.  This is probably true. 
I had similar small sized Alano and Hasya airlayers planted next to each other. 
The Hasya died to the ground in a freeze, but the Alano grew back strong from a 6 inch stub off the ground.
According everyone and my own experience Kohala is hardier than other longans.
So I guess sapodillas and longans are similar in cold hardiness here in Phoenix.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Costa Rican monkey guava
« on: November 03, 2018, 04:32:13 PM »
I guess it's not a monkey orange then, but a Monkey Apple.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I need more guavas in my life.
« on: November 02, 2018, 08:38:46 PM »
What about para guava Psidium acutangulum?  How does it compare to cas guava?
Descriptions for both are very similar.  Usually people say it's sour, but very tasty and good for juice.

Cas guava, Psidium friedrichsthalianum.  Best flavor of any guava I have tasted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Costa Rican monkey guava
« on: November 02, 2018, 07:28:51 PM »
It looks like some kind of Monkey Orange, in the Strychnos family.  Stychnos Spinosa is from Africa, but Costa Rica has Strychnos species too.  Seeds are usually poisonous...gulp

Hmm that maybe it, there aren't any ripe ones around, but i think the seeds seem viable.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: October 29, 2018, 07:37:41 PM »
May grafts have grown very well. Sep grafts took but are small, but looking great too. They need to make thru the winter first.

That's awesome.  It gives me hope in Phoenix. 
Did you do veneer grafts?  Please let us know your method?
I was going to graft Emperor to Brewster, but longan is much better for the high pH soil and water here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafting experiments
« on: October 29, 2018, 01:25:14 AM »
Would adding sulfur to the soil to lower the pH be as helpful as using RO/rain water?  Adding sulfur would be cheaper and less work.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: October 28, 2018, 03:52:45 PM »
How are your grafts doing this time?

I tried grafting Lychee on Longan again, this time I got sweet heart and hakip onto longan, both took. So far I got 3 out of 3 takes on Lychee grafts on longan. Stay tuned for pics

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee grafted onto Longan?
« on: October 28, 2018, 03:47:35 PM »
Hey Max,
Any update on the lychee on longan graft?

2018 updates, not much happening yet. Both grafts are still looking very healthy. The longan tree is active now, so should see some action soon. Sorry, donít exactly what cultivar the longan rootstock is. But, guessing a kohala.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: best tasting guava ?
« on: October 22, 2018, 03:34:45 AM »
A couple of years ago I bought a stupid expensive Allahabad guava that grows REALLY slowly that I have read are superior tasting. Does anyone here have one that is fruiting?

Yes I bought one of those on ebay from eplantsnursery even though I was suspicious.  Two years later I got something like a long green terrible tasting guava that cracks. 
This ripoff probably sent me some seedling guava.  Now he's selling the exact same listing under the ebay id guavaking .
Ebay's policies make it possible for these scumbags to rip people off.  No wonder ebay's going down hill.

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