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What Harry said.

1703
I'm growing Pantin and Magana. Need to get a Pace and Excalibur.

How is Magana?  Is it the smallest tree?  How does the eating quality compare to others?

Mine was only planted a few months ago, so its a young tree. I don't expect it to produce for at least few years (presuming I can get it to survive the winters) but it has been flowering which I suppose is an encouraging sign. I have had Magana fruit before and find the flavor about the same as Pantin, just shaped differently and a little larger, and a lighter flesh color.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic Gardening of Tropical Fruit
« on: February 01, 2012, 11:38:24 PM »
The lazy man's way to do it is:
  • Get the tree trimmer to dump off a load of mulched trimmings in your driveway
  • Pay someone to wheelbarrow it through the garden a few inches thick
  • Let nature (millipedes) do the composting for you


Ya, this is essentially what I did, only the mulch was spread with a bobcat.

I also have a mulch/compost pile area where all the unwanted fruit and vegetable scraps and manure goes.

1705
I'm growing Pantin and Magana. Need to get a Pace and Excalibur.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruits of Africa
« on: January 31, 2012, 11:46:40 PM »
Ackee and Miracle Fruit are both from Africa as well if I remember right.

1707
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit pics
« on: January 31, 2012, 11:42:44 PM »
Did you take out that other mamey tree that never fruited?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pugging
« on: January 31, 2012, 08:55:35 PM »
I've mostly seen it done to mangoes. Basically just means pruning the tree closer to the base of the trunk than normal (though obviously not below the graft), maybe at about 2 feet or so, to encourage a lower/earlier branching habit. Can probably be done with 'most' other tropical fruit trees as well. Seems to be ideal for growing a tree in a pot but perhaps not necessary for an in ground tree; might actually be counterproductive in some instances as you might not want branches occurring that low to the ground. Named after the poster puglvr1, who practiced/s it plenty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Schnebly Winery
« on: January 31, 2012, 08:48:31 PM »
Have you or anyone else tried the Carambola or Avocado wine? Thoughts?

1710
Papaya.....there are definitely  some good ones but enough of them taste like vomit. I have them growing anyways though.

I would probably hate Durian if I actually tried it......but I'm not so inclined.

Trying to think of it; there just really aren't many fruits I don't like.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit and Spice Park, Homestead
« on: January 31, 2012, 08:21:50 PM »
And do all the trees have signs with their variety names?

As I recall most do but there are a few that don't. Almost all the mangoes are labelled but I recall there being some with tags that had disappeared. If Chris or one of the workers is around they might be able to tell you where something is if you are looking for a specific cultivar of something and can't find it. They have most of the species grouped together (mangoes with mangoes, avocados with avocados, jakfruit with jakfruit, etc) though there are some limited sporadic plantings of things. (e.g., the Zill and Kent mango trees are far away from the rest of the mangoes).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit and Spice Park, Homestead
« on: January 31, 2012, 06:32:40 PM »
I guess it's been about 20 years since I visited the Fruit and Spice Park in the Redland, Homestead, FL.  I think I may have been there once after Hurricane Andrew devastated it.  How is it now?  Is it a MUST-SEE attraction for the tropical fruit enthusiast?  Are all the cultivars properly labeled?  Are the trees well cared for?  You're allowed to sample whatever has fallen from the trees, correct?  But you can't bring anything home?

If you like mangoes, and can bear the heat, go during peak mango season (this year late-June/July would probably be ideal due to the later flowering) on a weekday if possible (less people in the park sampling fruit). Its worth going any time of the year though. Also, while you are only supposed to eat fruit that falls to the ground, they will often let people sample fruit off the trees if you take one of the guided tours. They also have fruit available to sample at the entrance/gift-shop. A couple years ago I think they were even selling mangoes in bags but I'm not sure if they still do that or not.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are grafting knives necessary?
« on: January 31, 2012, 12:42:12 AM »
I've successfully grafted with a wide variety of blades depending on what was available.....from razors to fishing knives. I do prefer to use the grafting knife (when it isn't missing/lost  >:(), but it's not absolutely necessary.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Lychee Blooms of 2012
« on: January 29, 2012, 03:07:42 PM »
The weevils are pretty fond of my Mallika and largest Edward tree because they are closest to the weed thicket. But more than anything they LOVE my loquat trees. Fortunately they seem to have a pretty difficult time eating the leaves on them :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: January 28, 2012, 07:11:12 PM »
Interesting that the article describes 'Young' as being "extremely sweet". The Young I sampled at Harry's was nowhere close to that description.

Jack....do you remember the 'Young' being an especially sweet mango? Perhaps this is yet another instance of the impact soil type can have on mango flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honeybell orange
« on: January 28, 2012, 07:05:22 PM »
Sometimes at the major grocery stores they have California grown honeybells that totally suck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Honeybell orange
« on: January 27, 2012, 09:54:06 PM »
Every year I forget they are in season and by the time I remember, the season is basically over. Par the course.....

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tropical Fruit Books
« on: January 27, 2012, 09:52:33 PM »
Some of my favorite books to add to list are:

1) Mango Studies--A Compilation of Papers Presented at the Florida Mango Forum from 1941 thru 1951

2) Tropical Fruits For Southern Florida and Cuba and Their Uses--by David Sturrock

3) Fruits For Southern Florida, A Handbook for the Homeowner--by David Sturrock

4) Notes on The Mango--by David Sturrock

5) Fifty Tropical Fruits of Nassau--by Julia Morton

6) Florida State Horticultural Proceedings--Any Year

You still have these right? Would love to take a look at them.

1719
Interesting that a lot of people are naming pluots. I like them myself but have never had a fresh one off the tree to compare.

1720
1. Mango
2. Mamey Sapote
3. Cherry
4. Lychee
5. Jakfruit

Honorable mention: Avocado, Canistel, fresh Georgia Peach

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is graham mango good?
« on: January 25, 2012, 11:52:52 PM »
I think Graham is a pretty good mango strictly in terms of flavor. The trees are decent producers but not great. The flavor is slightly "spicy" with prominent resinous notes. Not unlike other Caribbean mangoes (Bombay and Julie, Graham's likely parent). Some people don't like this flavor in a mango though.

The trees are medium-to-large sized. Fruit is kind of 'ugly' looking if that at all matters. Surface can be real bumpy and they develop little color and its kind of on the smaller size.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold Hardy Avocado's
« on: January 25, 2012, 12:28:17 AM »
I'm in zone 9 (Florida) where it can rarely get below 25F (so far the record for this year is 24F). So I've been looking for cold hardy avocados. I hadn't heard of those varieties before, they sound promising though! Where would you buy those varieties?

If it rarely goes below 25 where you are there's a number of varieties that will survive those kind of temps (low 20s) besides the ulta-hardy types mentioned in the original post. Lula, Mexicola, Winter Mexican, and Brogdon are hardy to around 22.

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I've heard of people successfully fruiting 'Stella' cherries in north and central Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why everyone moved to this forum?
« on: January 23, 2012, 05:56:57 PM »
Because gardenweb was a dump and this place is awesome.

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Lula might be my favorite avocado in terms of flavor.

Unfortunately the flesh-to-seed ratio on them is rather poor.

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