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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: July 17, 2018, 10:39:43 PM »
the Sugarloaf trees look more productive than Coconut cream. M-4 at a minimum looks a lot more precocious than Coconut cream and in “on” years the original tree’s yields are extremely heavy. It’s a better mango frankly and so is Sugarloaf, which is much more consistent than coconut cream and seems more forgiving about when it is harvested.

I kind of wish the “coconut cream” name had been saved for one of those two rather than C-20.

We’re growing Shwehintha. It’s pretty good. Similar flavor to Maha Chanok.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream mango
« on: July 17, 2018, 12:15:22 AM »
Ice cream is great. The fruit are small so you’re left wanting more

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 13, 2018, 11:15:19 AM »
Bump for tonight’s talk in West Palm Beach.

Angie and Carrie are extremely popular with Indians and Jamaicans/Trinis (people who disproportionately buy mangos), and relatively unpopular among Americans (people who account for a minority of Mango buyers).

I happen to love both Angie and Carrie, and when I’ve conducted taste tests with other people, they struggled to tell the difference. I doubt most people here could in a blind tasting either.

MBBS showed up when it wasn’t raining at all in large sections of 2017. It doesn’t appear to require much moisture.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tagged wrong? ID?
« on: July 12, 2018, 01:18:20 PM »
Based on the shape In The last photo it might be fruit punch.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 11, 2018, 02:05:59 PM »
Went to the Broward Rare Fruit and Vegetable council tonight. It is definitely worth spending the evening listening to someone passionate about mangoes. Make the trip mango lovers you wont be disappointed.

Thanks for attending.

Miami talk is tonight for anyone interested

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 09, 2018, 06:48:41 PM »
Will you be giving a talk at the Treasure Coast Rare Fruit Club in Port St Lucie  this year?

Yes, August 16th.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 09, 2018, 03:42:03 PM »
Bump for tonight in Davie.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango identification (Rapoza???)
« on: July 08, 2018, 09:34:24 PM »
OP’s fruit might be a Manzanillo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 08, 2018, 07:02:52 PM »
Is your Miami talk going to be the same as the one at fruit and spice Park?

No, going to focus more on horticultural care and some city of Miami mango history.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 08, 2018, 03:25:08 PM »
Come down to Naples bro😉

Sure, Whenever they ask me to speak.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / 3 mango Talks This Week
« on: July 07, 2018, 09:29:02 PM »
For anyone interested I’ll be giving 3 separate talks about Mangos this week in the south Florida area:

Monday, July 9th, at 7:00pm
broward Rare Fruit and Vegetable council
Location address: 3245 College Avenue, Davie, Florida 33314
Going to be similar to talk I gave in Homestead in May. Will try to focus on new varieties.

Wednesday, July 11th at 7:00 pm. Miami Rare fruit club
Fairchild botanic garden:
10901 Old Cutler Road Coral Gables, FL 33156
Science village classroom (I think. I had to try to find a reference to where they met)
This talk may focus more on horticultural practices with some discussion of new varieties. Tons of history I’d like to talk about as well but gonna be limited in time.

And finally...
Friday, July 13th. 7:30pm. palm Beach Rare fruit council
Mounts botanical garden
531 North Military Trail, West Palm Beach, FL 33415

I intend to focus heavily on the 2018 season and the new diseases at this talk as numerous palm beach county residents are having their mangos wiped out by this stuff now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulgova Mango
« on: July 07, 2018, 07:28:36 PM »
Malgova in India  is actually Not the same mango as “Mulgoba” in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 06, 2018, 10:56:17 PM »
Tasted the Pina Colada mango for first time, picked up 4 from mango men. The pina colada is a small oddly shaped mango having some random lumps here and there, about 3in long and not quite half a pound in weight. The skin color was mostly yellow with some green and had slight give to thumb pressure, the outside had a slight smell of spices. Cut open the mango which reveled a bright yellow flesh lacking any fiber, with some viscous juice present adhering to the flesh. The flavor was more “Pina” than “pina colada” and fell somewhere between lemon meringue citrus and pineapple pleasure pineapple, where I did not notice the coconut where others have mentioned before, while I was whole heartedly expecting it! 😒 This little mango packs a punch, after eating just one I felt a little uneasy as if I had just gorged on 5 mangos, which could be the tart citrus notes that I have experienced in the lemon zest. The flesh texture was very creamy. IMO, having high expectations of coconutty goodness I was left slightly disappointed and in comparison to the coconut cream which is larger, prettier, more balanced in flavor with more pronounced coconut flavor........really comes down to personal preference as to which is better. Some hear yanni while others hear laurel 🤷‍♂️ The seed is also Poly.


Needs to get on the riper side to achieve the piña colada flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:46:34 PM »
I would like to know whether Sugarloaf is monoembryonic or polyembryonic.

Poly from what I recall.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:12:06 AM »
28-18 definitely has a fruit cocktail juice taste . Has a hint of “Capri Sun” or some other juice box drink you had as a kid.

Is there such a thing as a mango that's not MBBS susceptible? I've been finding it on quite a few cultivars. To my surprise, I even found what looks to be an MBBS lesion on one of my orange sherbet mangos.

I think MBBS is just another disease / pest / pathogen that growers in Florida will have to deal with. And discovering that a previously disease resistant tree now is susceptible to a new pathogen is just par for the course here in South Florida.

Any mango can get it much like any mango can get anthracnose, but the degree of susceptibility can vary considerably by cultivar. This has already been established overseas where the disease has existed for a while now in areas of Australia and South Africa. Susceptibility to the rots, which are separate pathogens, seems to coincide with MBBS susceptibility.

There’s a major difference between losing 1 in 10 or 20 fruit to it and losing a majority of your crop, which many people in Palm Beach and surrounding area are experiencing at this point now that the pathogens have have several years to accumulate and build up.


Hey Alex

So what are the options now if you want LATE varieties that that aren't MBBS susceptible?

Both Chris & Alex are saying it's a big problem for Kent & other mangoes with Brooks genes.  Was wondering if planting a dooryard Kent tree on the WEST coast is just asking for problems.  I had a spot reserved for a couple of late varieties.  Keitt was going to be one & Kent possibly the other.  Now I'm thinking I'd be better off replacing Kent with Beverly.   Input & suggestions welcome.

Truly Tropical top working Kents

Beverly gets it too.

Honey Kiss appears to be relatively resistant. Other than that, I speculate  some of Gary Zill’s other late-season selections are resistant but it’s going to take a couple years to determine this.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: July 02, 2018, 10:21:14 AM »
Piña Colada
Peach Cobbler
White Piri
Pineapple Pleasure
ST Maui

Have all been pretty incredible.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification?
« on: July 01, 2018, 10:51:42 PM »
Squam you have any ideas?

Not sure, but Doesn’t look like Glenn in the pics.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification?
« on: July 01, 2018, 01:08:34 PM »
Post more photos of the fruit

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill Mango must have
« on: June 30, 2018, 07:00:55 PM »
We’re growing O-15. Excellent mango.

Yes, I believe I see it on some of my mangoes here in Bokeelia, Pine Island, Lee county. This is only my second season here and I am working to understand and mitigate it. I am still getting many good clean fruits despite the situation.

Post some pics so we can take a look. I’m aware of it in counties directly north and south of Palm Beach but hadn’t heard of it reaching the west coast yet.

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