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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado in Florida
« on: March 23, 2019, 09:05:38 AM »
When does it ripen?

Ours seem to mature in October.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nishikawa Avocado in Florida
« on: March 22, 2019, 08:52:24 PM »
Weíre growing it. I think it came up in another thread talking about Hawaiian cvs. Itís quite good.

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Unfortunately, my 3 gallon coconut cream from plantogram appeared to develop floral malformation. It was planted September 2018, and has grown a few feet since then. It started to form multiple flower panicles lately, and most of them look like below. What is the best remedy? Cut all the flowers if it has a chance in the future without the use of fungicides? Or, should I cut my losses and remove it so the disease doesn't spread to healthy trees. Thanks in advance.








Post photos when the flowers open.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rosigold mango fruiting status
« on: March 19, 2019, 02:51:53 PM »



Started eating them this week

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 08:23:25 PM »
From what I see you just spray copper on it? I would rather it not spread to my other mango tree.

Copper might clear it up on its own but Iíd Rotate with a non-copper fungicide as well, should clear up by summer.

Honestly Iím not even attempting to control this one right now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black banded disease on mango?
« on: March 18, 2019, 07:15:44 PM »
Itís all over south Florida now.

Just another in a steady parade of diseases attacking mango in Florida now. Luckily this one is relatively benign/irrelevant, if ugly looking. Easy to treat if you feel it necessary.

I feel like itís Only a matter of time before we get Seca.

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2 cups for a tiny tree like that is a bit much. I suspect salt burn and possibly foliar scab judging by the mis-shapen leaves, which Sweet Tart used to get for me in Loxahatchee though it was rare on Pickering.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango blooming but no fruiting
« on: March 17, 2019, 03:43:58 PM »
What'd be a likely cause for a potted mango tree to bloom normally but not one turned to fruit?? 
I dont noticed any sign of disease or noticeable issue on the tree, leaves are fine with plenty of blooming but not one flower become fruit.

Usually due to high male/female flower ratio. Some varieties are also partially self incompatible (e.g. Julie)

Alex, have you experienced this with Ice Cream?  For me last year it set gobs and this year full bloom but no fruit set.  It did look like fungus hit it but bbís never even developed so maybe male/female flower ratio?  Can the ratio of male/female flowers for a particular variety change each year?

Absolutely can change, even in the same season if they flower multiple times. Gary is another mango that is notorious for this but a number of other Julie descendants do it too. Ice Cream is likely a member of that family.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango blooming but no fruiting
« on: March 16, 2019, 09:15:58 AM »
What'd be a likely cause for a potted mango tree to bloom normally but not one turned to fruit?? 
I dont noticed any sign of disease or noticeable issue on the tree, leaves are fine with plenty of blooming but not one flower become fruit.

Usually due to high male/female flower ratio. Some varieties are also partially self incompatible (e.g. Julie)

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Glenn didn't fruit for me. First year in like a decade it hasn't.

Ours flowered in January but flushed a lot of growth simultaneously. Then had a light second bloom. Gonna be a ďdisappointingĒ crop by its standards. The Dupuis Saigon trees did the exact same thing strangely enough.

If it hasn't blossomed by now (Providence), can we say no fruit for 2019?

Our largest Providence had a full bloom, but we have another which has produced before including last year that hardly flowered.

I think what youíre seeing here with these various reports of failed bloom is the statistical consequence of the mild/almost-non-existent winter. Lots of trees flowering, but a good size minority chunk with little or nothing.

My biggest disappointment this year (aside from dozens of non-blooming Sweet Tarts  >:( )is Bombay, which is a huge tree compared to others planted at same time, capable of a crop of 300+ pounds, but which barely flowers and will end up with wellunder 50 pounds of fruit :(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: March 12, 2019, 10:30:36 PM »
:D I don't know, it's still one of my favorites and I've got 30-some mango cultivars producing (over a dozen of those the new zillie cultivars). The key for me was eating it just a tad green, when it still has the east asian ('coca cola') sap taste and a sub-acid flavor.

Though the flavor isn't a solid 10 (it's close), it's the whole package that makes it an awesome mango tree. It produces strong crops every-single-year and has no disease issues. It's a slower grower (not slow, slow-er). It also hangs fruit for an extended season. Not a whole lot more you can ask of a mango tree.

I cut open this Maha Chanok grown in Leo Manuelís yard the other day. It has a beautiful color and shape. I put it into the fridge when it was firm ripe and it is probably the best tasting SoCal grown Maha Chanok Iíve ever eaten, I donít consider Maha in my top tier of Mangos.

This fruit still did not make it into top tier status but it was really good. It had a Brix of 19% and was firm with a nice orangish yellow color. I decided to post in this thread because it is in quite a few members top list. It was sweet with slight mango resin taste near the skin. I would have liked more of this resin taste throughout the flesh of this fruit but it was not there.

A good, well rounded mango but the flavor is not explosive like some of the Zill varieties.





Simon

Ya. Still a Good mango, perhaps great in the B.Z. Era (before Zill). But Now just an also-ran. Mango snobs pass on it. Mostly just newbies and East Asians that request it based on prior reputation.

We have two. Originally it was supposed to be a lot more than that but a huge batch I got in 2014 turned out to be mislabeled.

Theyíve been good performers. But apparently pretty BBS prone. Customers had warned us about this for a year prior as several already had infected Mahas (ours were clean to that point). Last year the smaller of the two got it bad, with some beginning to show up on the larger tree too. Board member Brett Borders Mahas were all rotting for a couple years so he cut his down last year. I expect to hear more of these stories going forward as a lot of people have planted Maha in the last couple years due to internet reputation and nursery recommendations. Canít blame them because it was indeed a stellar backyard tree and even produced in loxahatcheeland without spraying. Probably gonna go the way of Kent now.


Farewell Maha. We hardly knew thee (photos courtesy of customers):




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« on: March 12, 2019, 12:00:56 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Weíre growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.)

Itís actually grown pretty slowly (in full sun). But itís healthy and flowering well right now.

I also once had one at my old Loxahatchee farm and it was moderately vigorous. Got hit by the tractor and died though.
Do you think it's better than Oro Negro???

I donít know if itís ďbetterĒ, I really like Oro Negro too. Nishikawa has a higher oil content though if that matters.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« on: March 11, 2019, 10:19:29 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Weíre growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.
Is Nishikawa a big tree?  Can it take full sun?  (I'm thinking of replacing my Oro Negro, which has been a dud.)

Itís actually grown pretty slowly (in full sun). But itís healthy and flowering well right now.

I also once had one at my old Loxahatchee farm and it was moderately vigorous. Got hit by the tractor and died though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hawaiian Avocado's in California
« on: March 11, 2019, 10:08:35 PM »
Too bad we aren't doing more testing of Hawaiian avocados in Florida--our climate being more similar to Hawaii's than California's is.

Weíre growing a few. Specifically Nishikawa, Yamagata, Kahaluu, Malama, and San Miguel. Nishikawa has fruited before and is excellent.

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Most of the Sunrise tree still has open flowers but a few that have set look normal so far:





I'd be happy with that fruit set.  How's disease resistance (I live in West Broward so far inland)?

It seems to be pretty disease resistant.

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Most of the Sunrise tree still has open flowers but a few that have set look normal so far:





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Ugly Betty has been a huge disappointment for us. Iíll have to check Sunrise.

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Anyone getting poor fruit set?

I had two trees that flowered relatively earlier than the others and just about al the panicles have dried up, very little fruit set.

I am a little inland and most mornings the dew is so much it is like I had hosed down the flowers.
I sprayed to try to prevent powdery mildew and while I seem to have avoided that I still did not get good fruit set (despite bees and flies buzzing everywhere).

Fortunately, the trees that flowered a little later seem to be setting some fruit.  Not sure if this will be a good mango year for me just yet.

Question:  Other than copper and sulfur, what do you spray to help your mangos hold on to some fruit. 


On a pleasant note, lychee and citrus are blossoming, won't be a lost season.

Weather conditions likely influenced certain varieties to open male rather than female. The initial fruit set on Edward and Carrie off January bloom, for instance, was garbage. The secondary bloomís fruit set has been much better.

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Once a week

Insufficient before and after a weather event like that. Should have been watered heavily.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado 24/7 Thread
« on: February 28, 2019, 10:18:13 PM »
Not surprised the Hass comparisons to Carla are probably way off. People love to exaggerate that kind of stuff. Bet it tastes like Choquette or something

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It was cold weather and the temperature got to 0 to 2 Celsius with strong dry wind .

Well 0C with dry wind would be enough to cause that damage. How often was the tree being watered?

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hello everybody
Im in kuwait and 5 days ago we had a cold windy weather . One of my mango trees was positioned in a bad windy place it was planted one month and a half ago . It has a huge flowering and good health until we had that cold windy weather 5 days ago as i mentioned . Since that the flowers started to die and get dry . See the pics . Anyone has an idea about this ??







Good morning

Here is my alphonso mango tree after one month or more since itís got hit by a very cold wind .
Since then itís getting worse everyday . Some branches dried and i cut them as shown in the pics . Also there some stains on trunk and branches and when i made a cut i found out this black and brown stain inside . I sprayed carbendazim fungicide and painted the cut .
Please anyone has an idea about how to deal with this problem because i see this tree is dying slowly .
Check these pics for the dried branches and the stain.












Was this freezing weather or simply ďcoldĒ? What temperature did it get to ?(please indicate Celsius or Fahrenheit).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How well does Son Pari do in South Florida?
« on: February 26, 2019, 05:32:40 PM »
Any update on taste?

Excellent, complex and sweet Indian flavor

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My 18' tall Cogshall has all of 2 pannicles.  My Pickering, 3 years in ground and about 6' tall has about 6 pannicles.

Your mangos must not like you :(

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to start fertilizing my mango trees?
« on: February 22, 2019, 09:27:44 AM »
Agree with Har. Traditionally Iíve recommended March 1st  based on historical record but now that we donít get real winters anymore it makes sense to start fertilizing earlier.

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