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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:46:34 PM »
I would like to know whether Sugarloaf is monoembryonic or polyembryonic.

Poly from what I recall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 08:12:06 AM »
28-18 definitely has a fruit cocktail juice taste . Has a hint of ďCapri SunĒ or some other juice box drink you had as a kid.

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Is there such a thing as a mango that's not MBBS susceptible? I've been finding it on quite a few cultivars. To my surprise, I even found what looks to be an MBBS lesion on one of my orange sherbet mangos.

I think MBBS is just another disease / pest / pathogen that growers in Florida will have to deal with. And discovering that a previously disease resistant tree now is susceptible to a new pathogen is just par for the course here in South Florida.

Any mango can get it much like any mango can get anthracnose, but the degree of susceptibility can vary considerably by cultivar. This has already been established overseas where the disease has existed for a while now in areas of Australia and South Africa. Susceptibility to the rots, which are separate pathogens, seems to coincide with MBBS susceptibility.

Thereís a major difference between losing 1 in 10 or 20 fruit to it and losing a majority of your crop, which many people in Palm Beach and surrounding area are experiencing at this point now that the pathogens have have several years to accumulate and build up.

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Hey Alex

So what are the options now if you want LATE varieties that that aren't MBBS susceptible?

Both Chris & Alex are saying it's a big problem for Kent & other mangoes with Brooks genes.  Was wondering if planting a dooryard Kent tree on the WEST coast is just asking for problems.  I had a spot reserved for a couple of late varieties.  Keitt was going to be one & Kent possibly the other.  Now I'm thinking I'd be better off replacing Kent with Beverly.   Input & suggestions welcome.


Truly Tropical top working Kents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzPWx0YxgMY&t=124s

Beverly gets it too.

Honey Kiss appears to be relatively resistant. Other than that, I speculate  some of Gary Zillís other late-season selections are resistant but itís going to take a couple years to determine this.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos of 2018
« on: July 02, 2018, 10:21:14 AM »
PiŮa Colada
Peach Cobbler
Dot
White Piri
Pineapple Pleasure
Cac
Sunrise
Val-Carrie
ST Maui

Have all been pretty incredible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification?
« on: July 01, 2018, 10:51:42 PM »
Squam you have any ideas?

Not sure, but Doesnít look like Glenn in the pics.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification?
« on: July 01, 2018, 01:08:34 PM »
Post more photos of the fruit

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill Mango must have
« on: June 30, 2018, 07:00:55 PM »
Weíre growing O-15. Excellent mango.

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Yes, I believe I see it on some of my mangoes here in Bokeelia, Pine Island, Lee county. This is only my second season here and I am working to understand and mitigate it. I am still getting many good clean fruits despite the situation.

Post some pics so we can take a look. Iím aware of it in counties directly north and south of Palm Beach but hadnít heard of it reaching the west coast yet.

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Both Chris & Alex are saying it's a big problem for Kent & other mangoes with Brooks genes.  Was wondering if planting a dooryard Kent tree on the WEST coast is just asking for problems.  I had a spot reserved for a couple of late varieties.  Keitt was going to be one & Kent possibly the other.  Now I'm thinking I'd be better off replacing Kent with Beverly.   Input & suggestions welcome.


Truly Tropical top working Kents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzPWx0YxgMY&t=124s

Beverly gets it too.


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Each would be genetically unique as the embryos would all be from sexual reproduction. There would be considerable variation in terms of similarity to parent(s).

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I can understand why there aren't any "U-Pick" mango or avocado operations.  Too many idiots.

Yup.

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I really like Bradenton and Oliver.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Orange Essence Mango AKA 40-33
« on: June 24, 2018, 09:17:35 PM »
Orange Essense- A superior mango than its parent Kent. Classic mango flavor with an orange taste near the skin.
Would you say this is pretty accurate?

I found the citrus component pronounced enough not to put it in the classic group, but I havenít eaten many of them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Orange Essence Mango AKA 40-33
« on: June 24, 2018, 08:51:41 PM »
Orange Essence is an outstanding fruit.

Is it as late or later than Kent?  Will MBBS, disease or other issues be "likely"?

Similar season I think. Impossible to know for sure until more people have it fruiting, but I would speculate itís got some resistance to MBBS if the ĎGaryí cultivar was itís paternal parent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID Mango Variety
« on: June 23, 2018, 01:05:53 PM »
Tommy Atkins and Valencia Pride

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some more mangoes from Tropical Acres
« on: June 21, 2018, 10:14:00 PM »
 :D

Nice haul. Thanks for mentioning

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If I love the flavor of Carrie but am not crazy about the softer texture, is there a mango with a similar flavor profile but with a firmer/more toothsome texture?

Angie

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Is the spanish lime graft for sale as well?

Yes Sure , though Iíve never harvested budwood from it.

Thanks to everyone who has ordered and for your patience, glad to hear people are having a lot of success

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Are the problems really that bad?

Yes.

The Keitt/Gary and Kent/Gary crosses from Gary Zillís project offer the most promise as far as late-season stuff is concerned. These will continue to be evaluated over the next few years.

The problem the established late season cultivars have is theyíre mostly purely descended from Haden and/or Brooks, and lack Julie or Saigon genes that appear to afford some level of resistance.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado talk 6/18
« on: June 18, 2018, 10:11:50 PM »
What varieties do you recommend for South Florida?  I have Oro Negro and Simmonds, which are both good.  Oro Negro is a little more flavorful.  I also have a Wurtz tree, which has 5 avocados this year for the first time.  Additionally I've eaten Choquette and Lula, which are both good, Lula being the more flavorful.

You have some good ones now which I spoke about (Lula, choquette, Simmonds ), hopefully youíve had better luck with Oro Negro than many others.

A few other varieties I discussed were Brogden, Day, Catalina, Monroe, bacon and the hass derivatives.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado talk 6/18
« on: June 18, 2018, 10:08:54 PM »
When are you going to start shipping avocados? I need a source in Florida that ships and has a good choice of varieties.

The avocados havenít been prolific enough to ship much (certainly werenít last year, did ship some in 2016). Weíll see how much we have available this year. I donít typically advertise them for sale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado talk 6/18
« on: June 17, 2018, 10:28:57 PM »
For anyone interested Iíll be giving a talk about avocados to the martin county Master Gardeners at the Blake Library in Stuart, starting around 6:00pm tomorrow, June 18th.

Location is:
2351 SE Monterey Rd, Stuart, FL 34996

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bacterial spot on rosigold mangoes
« on: June 14, 2018, 11:40:42 AM »
Alex, the middle fruit in the middle picture does have a fissure that looks more characteristic of MBBS.

I see what youíre referring to now but itís difficult to view in the photograph. Maybe OP can take more pics.

As best I can tell over the last few years Rosigold doesnt seem too prone to MBBS.

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