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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Maha Chanok Rapid Growth
« on: March 21, 2013, 08:11:18 PM »
May 15, 2011

August 15, 2012

March 21, 2013

There is a soda can at the base of the most recent picture, the tree is about thirteen feet tall and round.  I have tipped and had pretty good wind damage last summer as well.  In comparison, on the same "steroids", my Pickering, Nam Doc Mai 4, and Cogshall are smaller and older.  The tree is less than two years from a three gallon. Every one of the newest flushes has about 6-8 new branches, and just put out a decent flowering cycle that is still going on in the lower branches with some fruit set.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Minnie Royal Cherry Free to Good Home!
« on: February 07, 2013, 08:17:37 PM »
I have a low chill Minnie Royal Cherry on Colt Rootstock tree in a seven gallon pot that is really huge! FREE.. Local pickup only!  You need a Royal Lee for cross pollination! Both are VERY LOW chill cherries!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / It's not a Maha Chanok!
« on: February 05, 2013, 04:32:06 PM »
I have confirmed that the one gallon mango tree I purchased on Ebay two Aprils ago is NOT a Maha Chanok.  It set fruit last year but didnt hold any.  This year it held about ten till they reached this size then split! I know Cookie Monster had money on them being a Nam Doc Mai, I believe he is completely correct! 

Beware of GT3000 on Ebay from Thailand.  I attempted to work it out with him and he claims it is a Maha Chanok.  The tree cost me $80 with shipping!!

I did get a Maha from Excalibur right after this one was purchased, it was known then as a green eating "Mahachanole" which has been confirmed to be a genuine Maha Chanok based on original import documentation (and fruit of course).

I hope this information saves someone money!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pitangtuba on Surinam?
« on: February 02, 2013, 02:28:11 PM »
Are Pitangtuba and Surinam Cherry close enough to graft one on the other?

Each month features a knowledgeable speaker, tasting table, plant auction, plant and seed exchange.   Plus, time for sharing information, techniques and experiences.
Members are seriously generous, with not only thier fruits and dishes for our tasting table but with their expertise and experience.
Bring your extra fruit harvest, a friend or neighbor and join the fun.
Thursday January 17, 2013 @ 7:30 PM
University of Florida/IRREC
2199 South Rock Road
Ft. Pierce
Room  210

I figured we could start of list of things that are common mistakes we all make that could be possibly avoided by learning from others...

Things like

1. Removing plastic bags from plants that are still not able to root hydrate from grafting or bareroot recovery (usually a month), and finding out that full seal is better for the first weeks followed by gradual humidity reduction by slowly adding holes prior to total removal. 

2. Premature removal of grafting bands, tape, wax for inspection.  This usually ends up in being the cause of graft failure.  That stuff can remain for a couple months or more without the need of removal. 

3. Digging in pots to see if seeds are sprouting only to kill the seed.

4. Carelessly removing plants by pulling them out of pots instead of tipping the pot over and allowing them to gently slide out of the pot and into your hand.

5. Pruning at inappropriate times (before or during Winter, during Fruiting).

6. Not properly marking and separating Round-Up containers and sprayers (this is a fun one!)

7. Not dating pots, grafts, and seeds so you have no real idea of how long its been.

8. Marking pots "Later" and then losing the variety (also during repotting).

9. Being careless with shipping info and causing plants to spend more time on the road then necessary..

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / NO SPAMMING!! & Other Rules For Posting
« on: December 04, 2012, 08:44:17 AM »
If you are a nursery please keep all your sales items grouped under your nursery name to avoid constant spamming! A "NEW" post will light up everytime you add to your post, and you can change the subject to match the current info! Please respect this format to be fair to all of us..
Individuals selling single items may post directly to the main board as always!

Please label your posts in this manner:
If you are looking for a plant/seed please put "Wanted:" at the beginning of your title.

If you are selling a plant/seed please put "Selling:" at the beginning of your title.

You must include the price for any item being sold.

Here are some examples:
Wanted: Artocarpus altilis seeds or plants
Selling: Garcinia mangostana seedlings

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Join us on Facebook!
« on: November 30, 2012, 01:36:41 PM »

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Holiday Ideas For Fruit Tree Hoarders
« on: November 29, 2012, 09:19:24 AM »
Just thought it would be a way to spring some ideas for those of us fortunate enough to have people requesting gift ideas.

These pruners are my favorite, kind of a mix of Double-Cut and Felco-2 Design.  I have a pair that I use all the time and just ordered another for my stocking..  ;)
Italian Made Double Cut Pruner LEDI II

Tropical Fruit Discussion / THE FRUIT HUNTERS Official Trailer
« on: November 09, 2012, 05:01:56 AM »
THE FRUIT HUNTERS Official Trailer

I was recently in Home Depot here in West Palm Beach looking at their sickly tropical fruit trees and found out that they have raised their prices.

They used to sell their three gallon assorted trees for $29 (mango, avocado, sugar apple, barbados cherry, white sapote, mamey, etc..) but have recently upped the pricing to $36.95! Wholesale nurseries here and in Miami Dade have also raised pricing as well which in turn will eventually drive prices higher at the retail counter.

I assume Home Depot and Lowes have finally come to terms with the reality that providing a one-year warranty on fruit trees to an uneducated public has gotten too costly.  Either way the value of buying from retail nurseries cannot be matched in terms of customer service and variety.  The only bright side of the business lost to HD and Lowes is that the trees dont originate from overseas and more plantings occur by non-obsessive collectors like ourselves!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / !!! UPDATE YOUR LOCATIONS !!!
« on: September 21, 2012, 01:03:40 PM »
Being a member of Tropical Fruit Forum it is VERY important that you provide your location information.

It is impossible to answer questions or gain knowledge about what you are growing if members cannot tell your growing conditions. 

Also, if you wish to buy, sell, or trade materials it is also a requirement for each party involved to know the specifics regarding the transaction (local laws, shipping/distance, permits, etc.....).

PLEASE be kind and follow the steps below to update your profile info!

1. Click "Profile" in Dark Green Bar below TROPICAL FRUIT FORUM Logo.
2. Select "Forum Profile" from drop down menu.
3. Scroll to the bottom of page and enter information in last white box marked "Location"
4. Click "Change Profile" and you have saved the information into your profile!

When you are finished your profile will contain your location information.

In the past members have posted the information under custom text fields and other places.  By entering your information into this area your location will be able to be added to the member search feature where others can find you by zone, state, zip code, and country.

New members will be prompted to enter this information at sign up, unfortunately us old timers have to do it ourselves!

Thank you for your continued support as we further develop the forum!

Due to the three avocadoes over three year production rate I decided to experiment with topworking.. The budwood was from a Kahaluu, the original variety was Wilson Seedless.

For bulk pickup..

The grafts..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Prep Planting
« on: August 23, 2012, 08:47:40 PM »
We figured it was time to plant out a 45 gallon Pantin Mamey as a hurricane prep! It even has a few small fruit on it! Hurricane Schmuricane!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / August 2012 Video Yard Tour pj1881
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:23:27 PM »
Please let me warn you ahead of time! This video is a little choppy and fast paced. I had to add the music to cover up my breathing as I walk. 
I used my iPhone to shoot the video, Nero to edit.   I tagged what I could at this pace; some things are left out, sorry!
Everything you see in my yard has been in the ground less than four years, most of which came out of three gallon pots or less!  We moved in the house in August of 2008 and started planting almost immediately.  As you can see I have left as much grass as I could and tried to maintain a landscape appearance incorporating heliconia, plumeria, turmeric, ginger, and other flowering plants.  The property is a little over a third of an acre and I have planted out the following.


Bakupari (Garcinia Laterifolia)
Bananas (Dwarf Cavendish,Pisang Klotek)
Crunchy Lemon Jakfruit
Barbados Cherry
Brewster Lychee
Buddha's Hand Citron
Dang Suria Jakfruit(seeding)
Dwarf Vietnamese Mulberry
Fina Sodea Clementine
Geffner Atemoya
Green Sapote TREC
Grumichama Cherry
Indian Jujube
Jaboticaba (smallleaf)
June Plum
Kaimana Lychee
Kampong Mauve Sugar Apple
Kari Carambola
Kohala Longan
Kwai Muk
Lemon Zest Mango
Lemondrop Mangosteen (Garcinia Intermedia)
Macadamia Nut
Madruno (Garcinia Madruno)
Maha Chanok Mango
Mai 2 Jakfruit
Marcus Pumpkin Avocado
Mauritius Lychee
Miracle Fruit
Multiple Dragon Fruit
Muscadine and Hybrid Grapes..
Myrciara glomerata
Nam Doc Mai Mango
ONG Guava
Pace Mamey
Page Hybrid
Passion Fruits..
Pickering Mango
Pineapple Pleasure Mango
Pink Marsh Grapefruit
Po Pyu Kalay Mango
Red Mombin
Ross Sapote
Sweetheart Lychee
Trompo Canistel
UF Sun Peach
Wilson Seedless Avocado
Vegetables (Hot Peppers, Potatoes, Garlic, Onions, Tomatoes, Herbs)


Timor Black Bamboo
Emerald Green Bamboo
Dwarf Buddha Belly Bamboo
Dwarf Ylang Ylang
Heliconia aemygdiana
Heliconia bihai Granada
Heliconia champneiana Maya Blood
Heliconia champneiana Maya Sunrise
Heliconia imbricata
Heliconia lingulata Red Tipped Fan
Heliconia Halloween
Heliconia Pedro Ortiz
Heliconia Sexy Pink
Heliconia collinsiana
Heliconia Valentine
Heliconia rostrata
Heliconia Dwarf Jamaican
Jasmine varieties
Assorted Orchids

My hope is that this video will inspire others to do the same!
Its one of the reasons to forum was created, to move us into the 21 century!!
Special Thanks to MOFRO for the music, they are a Florida Band.


197 SE 27th Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL33435-7607
Phone: (561) 737-9419 CALL AHEAD!

Spent some time at Walter Zills home and mango store today, it turned out to be a great Sunday!  On sale were a large variety of Mango and Carambola at prices ranging from $1-$2 a pound. 
He has the original Pickering Mango tree growing in his yard and is happy to show it off! I ran into Har, he was bringing the remaining mangoes from the days sale at Truly Tropical and had a nice chat with him as well. All together we picked up over fifty pounds of mangoes!  Along with the short tour he provided me a printed document about the origin of  the Pickering Mango that he had written, with his consent, I will pass it on..

By Walter Zill (pictured above in blue shorts)

"Beginning as a chance seedling sprouting in the grove planted by Laurence Zill in Boynton Beach, FL, it first caught my attention about 1980 when I saw about a half dozen fruit being supported by an unusually small plant having a trunk diameter of about one inch, with at total height about four feet, and numerous branches that bore small fruit.  The fruit were not impressive in any other way other than exisitng in abundance on such a tiny first fruiting seedling.  They turned bright yellow when ripe, and were suprisingly firm.  The flavor tasted to me somewhat like Carrie or Julie, and the growth habit known as Sophie Frey.  Animal habits being what they are, I surmise that a seed got transplanted some few feet west of a large fruiting Carrie tree where it germinated in the undercover beneath the limbs of an Irwin tree.  In 1983 a severe freeze caused great damage in the grove, killing back some mango limbs that were up to three inches in diameter, and resulting in nearly every mango leaf on the premises turning brown.  That exception, finding green leaves on that little seedling, caught my undivided attention.  I thought perhaps the plant had more resistance to cold than other mango varieties, but subsequnet seasons have shown damage much like other mangos when the temperature dips below freezing.  Eventually the seedling was transplanted  to where it could demonstrate it qualities.  It grew compactly and fruited heavily, fruit clinging  fairly well on the tree when ripe, with little bruising when they dropped.  When the tree grew larger, and in a season when fewer fruit set, the fruit weighed up to about two pounds, though average normal season weight is near one pound.  There came a time when Dr. Wayne Pickering inquired of me about having a mango named for him.  Since that variety had proven of sufficient worth to merit a good name, I sent a box of fruit from it to him to get his reaction.  When they ripened, and he had fairly sampled them, his response was, "That's my baby!".  So the name "Pickering" stuck.  When fully ripe it's among the sweetest mangos, with a texture sutable for slicing and dicing, and it's fine fibers providing desrable bulk.  As trees were multiplied and put into commercial plantings, it has provem very productive from compact trees.  Many who have become familiar with eating the "Pickering" often specify it for the eating qualities they like. It matures relatively early in mango season."

197 SE 27th Avenue
Boynton Beach, FL33435-7607
Phone: (561) 737-9419 CALL AHEAD!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pineapple Pleasure, Fruit Punch
« on: July 06, 2012, 12:25:02 PM »
Two more mango descriptions!

Pineapple Pleasure definitely is a keeper, extremely sweet yet VERY tart! And yes, a detectable Pineapple flavor!

The Fruit Punch Mango was similar in color, size and taste to the Pineapple Pleasure but had a resinous first taste, and a wide range of flavor..

My wife stopped by Zills today and picked up some trees and a few mangoes! One in the box was labeled Ugly Betty and supposedly is in production for next spring!

Awesome mango, great sweet flavor, real ugly!

a couple others..

I purchased an animal trap from Harbor Freight for less than $25 dollars to try and catch a raccoon that nealy cleaned out my Cogshall Mango tree.. I have set it three nights and caught an Opossum every night..

And just in time too!

These boys starting falling off the tree yesterday!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Go Daddy Servers Down 5/3/2012 7-8am
« on: May 03, 2012, 08:23:19 AM »
We had a short black out this morning.  It was nothing to do with our site, just a host issue! Sorry for the outage!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Foliar Spray Dragon Fruit
« on: April 17, 2012, 09:09:53 PM »

December 2011

April 2012

If you look back in my posts you will see the first picture I posted back in January.. I have a Dang Suria Jak that has gone from five feet to eight feet in the same time!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / GT3000 Mahachanot?
« on: April 06, 2012, 06:09:23 PM »
Any opinions on my Ebay purchased Maha Chanok?

Some sort of Nam Doc Mai Maybe?


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Montoso Gardens?
« on: February 21, 2012, 04:02:41 PM »
Why does Google tell me that Montoso Gardens will harm my computer? This happened once before about a year ago and it went away.. Why is this??

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