now that ya'll mention it...I've also been told I look like Vernon Howell, aka David Koresh....

now i just need to start up this jaboticaba cult...Branch Jaboticabians 

That's frightening.. In a couple years you'll probably be a dead ringer!!

Same goes for my place, moderate vegetative growth within the blooms. 

Quote from: pj1881 (Patrick) on December 07, 2014, 09:09:43 PM

That would explain the delay in supply.  The only way he could insure the rootstock to be genetically identical to his selected cold tolerant type would be with clonal propagation.  Even if the parent tree provided poly seeds, only select sprouts would be identical.  As for grafting material, a single adult parent tree could provide an infinite supply of buds.  The only problem with budding is rooted clonal rootstock would be past the juvenile stage making it very difficult to successfully bud graft. 

It still is a modern miracle to breed something like mango into cold tolerance without genetic modification even in a 100 year or more program.  Its quite a quantum leap.  Things like disease resistance, productivity, fiber, flavor, and color/shape would be more typical in a selective breeding program.  Its why we don't see tropicals in the subtropics after all.

Mango is a very widely adapted plant, growing and fruiting fine in tropical, sub tropical, and even dessert regions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's growing range could be extended even further than is the case at present, as it is a very versatile plant, not an ultra tropical.

Mango is subtropical Oscar, that's why it doesn't do as well in areas that ultra tropicals thrive.  If it were ultra tropical we would be struggling to make it grow in Florida.   Its actually amazing how poorly ultra tropicals do in South Florida, even in warmer months.  I have a few potted mangosteen seedlings that are three years old that are and inch tall.  Mango seedlings will grow to five feet in one year without an issue.  Durian will grow in a pot rather slowly and sickly, put it in the ground and it will die of phytopthera in weeks.  Most garcinia will do poorly, rambutan and pulasan the same.  Its not just about cold tolerance, its the climate in general that separates the growing zones (temps, soils, pH, disease, pests, and others). 

Here are some detailed threads about the topic from the past.


http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6186.msg81686#msg81686

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6970.msg90493#msg90493

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=6969.msg91281#msg91281

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=10620.msg163797#msg163797

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=8503.msg108678#msg108678

That would explain the delay in supply.  The only way he could insure the rootstock to be genetically identical to his selected cold tolerant type would be with clonal propagation.  Even if the parent tree provided poly seeds, only select sprouts would be identical.  As for grafting material, a single adult parent tree could provide an infinite supply of buds.  The only problem with budding is rooted clonal rootstock would be past the juvenile stage making it very difficult to successfully bud graft. 

It still is a modern miracle to breed something like mango into cold tolerance without genetic modification even in a 100 year or more program.  Its quite a quantum leap.  Things like disease resistance, productivity, fiber, flavor, and color/shape would be more typical in a selective breeding program.  Its why we don't see tropicals in the subtropics after all.

Quote from: pj1881 (Patrick) on December 07, 2014, 07:30:53 AM

There are still a couple left.  I've had numerous requests to hold onto these for later pickup.  This is a first come first served offer! Its only fair!

I am one among them and I will check with you when I come that way and if you still have one, I will pick it up. Thanks.

You will probably be fine.. I still have five left!

Still a couple left!!

Fresh decomposition actually can be detrimental to plant growth.  Complex alcohols and gasses are released during the process before the material becomes "friendly".  Be careful with that stuff, you might not get the results you would want! 

It is commonly air layered.

In the pouring rain with a carpet knife blade in a rush.. These are the ones we did the last day at Panoramic?

I had them pickled once (Sheehan), they were awesome!

Not new growth, not about to push.  Healthy and preferably with buds visible but not too developed.