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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annual fundraiser to support the forum
« on: November 17, 2015, 09:11:52 AM »
We have raised $58 dollars in the past couple hours! Thank you to all who have donated.. As stated above the email is the account to fund in paypal. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Annual fundraiser to support the forum
« on: November 17, 2015, 06:54:30 AM »

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Zest Skin Coloration
« on: June 28, 2015, 09:04:34 PM »
I have some lemon zest that look like this w mottling. Is it a sign of uneven ripening? Because it is definitely that on some my sweet tart mangoes/  Some of which get half green and half yellow

Patrick's foliar feeding 2012. He might have updated editions.

I have still been using pretty much the same mix.. I limit copper to wet months primary on the mango trees in flower/fruiting cycle.  I didn't invent the mix I use, I basically copied what Bill Whitman spoke about in his book and incorporated PhytoFos.  If you have Whitman's Book the article is a "Letter From Bal Harbour- Minor Element Sprays for Major Plant Growth"(pg.263).  The same information is also provided in many IFAS and other TF related docs and studies.  Whitman was actually using a lot more Cu and Fe in his mixes than I am.  Have I seen results? Absolutely.  Have I seen any lack of fruit because of vigor? Only in lychee, but my trees are only 4 years old and we have has dismal years overall lately in South Florida.  I have never burnt leaves or had adverse reactions either.  The overspray can easily be spotted on nearby lawns within a week or so, the lawn shows areas that appear sprayed with dark gloss green paint. 

Gary recommended not growing the E-4, did he tell anyone why? Is it a lack of resistance to disease or poor production? He said it was difficult to grow, I assume that means it wont get a name and release.... Shame, its a good one for sure!

I have spoken to Gary and Walter about it before (as it has always been one of my favorites ).  It is not a super producer but probably good enough just on that issue alone to be propagated.   The main issue is its ripening.  It is difficult to determine when it is ripe (it has luttle color change staying green) and it can also tend to have an issue with ripening evenly, which may be related to the difficulty of knowing when to actually harvest.

Thanks Rob! I was nice seeing you and your wife last night.  I didn't stay long enough to visit with anyone, I had the little one with me!

Gary recommended not growing the E-4, did he tell anyone why? Is it a lack of resistance to disease or poor production? He said it was difficult to grow, I assume that means it wont get a name and release.... Shame, its a good one for sure!

I would probably pick Fairchild

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mychorrhizae; is it worth it?
« on: May 28, 2015, 12:14:40 PM »
It also helps to use a rain stick during dry season to induce thunderstorms.  I would inoculate the soil with fertilizer at the same time though.  I actually did plant a lot of my trees with mychorrizae just because (Murahilin duped me into it).  Its magic stuff!

Most the mangoes sold here in Florida are from other places. Its really not a major commercial crop here.  Not to repeat the arguments again but even planting 25000 random seeds could not isolate cold tolerance.  The breeding program that Zill has used for the creation of the new mangoes wasn't a random planting.  Selective breeding was used to cross particular genetics.  Known progeny with traits of value were crossed in multiples with selections taken on those offspring that met certain criteria.  They use intentional cross pollination to create new varieties using many different decades old known quality varieties.  It would be more likely in the very slim chance a "cold hardy" variety was found that it was identified in a seedling planting of the many million random attempts in cooler areas.

Incredibly they also can produce oranges from time to time!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee and Mango u pick farms!
« on: May 24, 2015, 08:13:33 AM »

The front had as much as the sides.. I have these in front of my fruiting trees. I heard a rumor that a sniper with a pellet gun may be shooting thieves without my permission! Shame on him!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee and Mango u pick farms!
« on: May 23, 2015, 08:25:02 PM »
In a gentle way..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee and Mango u pick farms!
« on: May 23, 2015, 07:48:47 PM »
I just installed my first "Private Property- No Trespassing" Signs this afternoon.  My days of luck have run out.  I went bass fishing this afternoon and came home to a neighbor informing me that a nice couple had been stripping my mango trees.  I may have to install an electric perimeter fence for my dog, thieves suck!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: J-12 mango
« on: May 21, 2015, 09:26:03 PM »
Im with Jeff! Where would you place it in a line up?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Mango seedlings
« on: May 21, 2015, 09:38:15 AM »
Get some mangoes now! If you lay the seed flat on top of the soil and cover it with a 1/4" of soil you'll have seedlings ready in early fall.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan without fruit- ready to pull
« on: May 18, 2015, 02:47:51 PM »
You can get Potassium Chlorate on Amazon for really cheap.. The instructions to induce flowering are easy to find online. 

I would most definitely cut back the nurse braches when they are that much larger than the scions.  Its best to prepare yourself when requesting scions with different sized stock to work with.  I get scions from the USDA of all sizes, I really kick myself when they send ones I don't have the right caliber stock to graft to.  You can plant an avocado seed and have a viable rootstock within just a couple weeks.  When they are very young they are nearly 100% cadmium material (reddish sprout).  A simple cleft onto a pencil sized newly sprouted seed will be a success almost always!

Your scions are awful small for the stock.  Also, I find that upright growth is easier to graft onto, horizontal branches tend not to "accept" grafts as well.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mango fruit for sale
« on: May 06, 2015, 09:55:45 PM »
Thanks for the wonderful Edward mangoes the past few trips to the grove in WPB! I was nice visiting with you and Jack as always. Ill work on grafting a couple Edgar trees for you guys with the Turpentine seeds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pressure cleaning
« on: May 05, 2015, 03:03:32 PM »
I used pool chlorine when I had a concrete tile roof.  If you use the chemical injection on a standard pressure cleaner the final solution is almost as strong as commercial bleach.  Let it sit in the sun for a about fifteen minutes and it will turn the moldy concrete yellowish brown.  Hit that with like a 25 degree tip and you can really cover a lot of space quick.  The heavy strength mix will keep you from developing lines from the individual passes of the sprayer.  It will even get whiter a day or two after.  I was sure to have someone on the ground spraying off the overspray on my plants/trees.  I can honestly say I had zero casualties.  Actually, my Longan nearly fruited itself to death.
Chlorine works great on the ground concrete too, it cuts labor time in quarters.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Heavy mango drop
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:49:06 AM »
The Pineapple Pleasure mangoes that have fallen have been baseball size or bigger lately.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Heavy mango drop
« on: April 29, 2015, 09:47:45 AM »
I have seen the same in Palm Beach on select varieties.  Pineapple Pleasure, NDM 4, Hatcher, Lemon Zest, and even a few Carrie.  No extra fertilizer, wind, or intentional watering?? Maha Chanok, Fairchild, PPK, Pickering, Edgar, Ivory, and a couple others are holding strong in the same yard??

Thanks for the replies so far.. I have contacted the people I have been informed about.  If you have sent a message about a member sending these solicitations and you still receive them let me know!

The Private Message system and direct emails should not be used to solicit sales of things on the forum.  If you have been receiving these types of messages please report them along with the users name and they will be dealt with.

Please keep advertising to Buy, Sell & Trade sections posts for all to see! If anyone wants to buy them they will contact you directly.

Very nice it's really compact! Patrick is there a reason you have it in a container? They are cold hardy we have a few mornings bellow 40F almost every year and it's unfazed, no freeze burn or dieback. We have a mature Garcinia growing in the Fullerton Arboretum that's loaded every year you should have no problem growing it in the ground in your area.

That's great to hear.. I was just frightened that it may be cold sensitive or not fruit.  Now Im concerned that it may lose the fruit if I plant it out.  I probably will if I am able to harvest the fruit.


Let's see if we can rekindle an old debate. Does that say garcinia brasilensis on the pot?

The label from Jardines Enieda reads "Bacupari- G.brasilensis"

It was a one gallon in 2011.

My grafted "Mameyito" as they call it (its a lemon drop) has the same growth habit.

@Jay - No new growth at the flower sites but some on the branches.

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