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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida persimmons
« on: June 30, 2017, 11:03:57 AM »
Perhaps the "South Florida Persimmon"?  If so, it is astringent.  Non-astringent varieties tend not to fruit as much as astringent in hot climates.  SF Persimmon was originally called the Hudson and came from a backyard of a house in Tallahassee.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut Cream mango readiness
« on: June 27, 2017, 09:23:16 PM »
Photo of a ripe coconut cream here:

http://mangosbymail.com/our-mangos

If you don't have a bird/squirrel problem, you can probably wait until it falls on the ground.  CC tastes best when fairly soft.  Since you have two, experiment.

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Added photos of Carrie, Florigon, and Valencia Pride.
http://mangosbymail.com/our-mangos

Also increased the estimate of mangos that will fit in a box: Medium 9 per box; Large 14 per box. 

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Mahachanok that was picked three weeks too soon.   

Click on Mahachanok picture:
http://mangosbymail.com/our-mangos

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Don't cold tolerant mangoes already exist? According to Dr. Campbell, and some members of this forum, any species of mangifera, and there are many, can be called a "wild mango". I don't personally agree with that, but if it's true then cold tolerant wild mangoes already exist. There are species of mangifera that naturally occur at higher elevations. They may not be tolerant to frost, but they are going to be more cold tolerant then regular mango.
It seems to me that it would be a LOT easier to hybridize some of these species with regular mango than to select from 10,000 seedling mangoes over 2 generations of out growing.


My point is I think it is possible.  I've seen 3 gal in ground mango trees survive down to 28F without significant damage.  This wasn't "special" cold tolerant trees, but cold preparation ahead of the freeze, such as irrigation a few days before the cold to trap in warmth.  Other factors, such as a short cold snap, no wind, etc. helped the trees.

I think the "wild mango" has rootstock compatibility issues; Fairchild had to double graft with an internode species to get surviving. 

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I'am not happy that he might be failing but just trying to find out facts of the matter! :o I find it interesting that folks claim there are no cold hardy Mango's when I understand that there are varieties from India that grow in colder mountain regions! Or is that a hoax's too!
Would be interesting to find out for sure!


I wouldn't be surprised if a cold hardy mango was discovered someday.  Maybe next year, maybe not in my lifetime.  My rationale for is Dr. Campbell claimed that the jackfruit from Fairchild's jackfruit program as seedlings survived a freeze that killed mature jackfruit right next to the seedlings.  Thus, all of Fairchild's seedling jackfruit are likely more cold tolerant than regular jackfruit.  Get 10,000 mango seeds and plant them in a colder temperature, see what survives.  Repeat this enough and you should get a cold tolerant mango.  After getting a cold tolerant mango, then the process would be repeated for other desireable characteristics, like good tasting, productive, disease resistance, etc. 

It is far easier to buy mangos from www.MangosByMail.com, than to develop a cold hardy mango.

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What's your friend going to do when a 2 lb mango falls on his head from 40 feet up?

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A lot of good advice; probably a few envious members.   I suggest studying the layout of the Fruit & Spice Park and other botanical gardens.  Hurricane Andrew leveled the F&S park, so they were able to correct certain "sins" and add things like water features, etc. after Andrew.  If you have the resources, you might contact a landscape architect to develop a "master plan" for the property to help develop your vision.

Perhaps contacting Ken Love and Oscar (Fruit Lovers), may be useful in determining what will fruit well at your location. 

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You are harvesting and selling Kathy?

Not yet.  See website.  I am creating a repository of mango photos for mango trees that I have planted.

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Hey Jen,

Welcome to the Forum. Peanut Butter fruit is a novelty fruit; it is a small fruit with a large seed inside.  There is very little flesh.  It tastes a little like peanut butter.  I think it is propogated by seed, so you could eat the fruit and plant the seed. 

Good call on the Pickering mango.  Guava, you might research whether the guava fruit fly is in your area.  I'm not a Persimmon expert, here in south Florida the astringent persimmons bear more fruit than the non-astringent varieties, like Fuyu.  You might research that issue for the San Diego area.  Triumph is a productive astringent variety.

Best wishes,

Mr. Clean

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He wants to invest.  ;)

Lol!  Added a photo of Kathy (K-3).

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Is this your business?

Yes, why do you ask?

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I like how you set it up.

Thanks.  I plan to add more cross sections over time.

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www.MangosByMail.com mailing mangos to mango fans in northern climates.

http://mangosbymail.com/our-mangos

Provides a variety viewer of mango seed cross sections of these varieties:
  • Mahachanok
  • Angie
  • Coconut Cream
  • Pickering
  • Nam Doc Mai
  • Rosigold

We are a small orchard of 1.25 acres with over 70 mango trees in ground in Palm Beach County, Florida.  We cannot ship to Hawaii or California.



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The MangosByMail website has cross sectional views of seed profiles of these mango varieties:

http://mangosbymail.com/our-mangos

Mahachanok
Angie
Coconut Cream
Pickering
Nam Doc Mai
Rosigold

The grid lines are 1 inch grids to help identify the relative size.

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Here is some info http://www.florikan.com/phone/literature_index.html#lit-hort

Here is an advertisement https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQk6erHZwo8
Simon


I use a combination of time release and "quicker" release fertilizer for younger trees.  This ensures the trees have nutrition and allows for more nutrition during the summer months.  ECHO supposedly had problems growing fruit trees, until they started using time release fertilizers.  Time release helps to ensure consistent nutrition.

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I think time release fertilizers are a good option.   Time release fertilizers is more expensive, but saves on labor costs.  Temperature and moisture affect release rates in "regular" time release fertilizers; I'm not sure how much of this "new" "temperature" technology is marketing vs. performance compared to existing time release fertilizer.

Last time I got time release fertilizer, it was about $60 per 50lb bag for 12 month release.  It was on closeout from a national fertilizer company. 

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How did the CC taste this year ?

Thanks Ed

The CC could have been better.  I had better CC from the same tree earlier in the year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sun Protective Clothing - Lifespan
« on: May 30, 2017, 05:51:39 PM »
Where are you getting clothing with SPF ratings?

Costco has SPF rated hats for about $15 here in Florida.  Columbia Wear has SPF rated shirts, which can be mail ordered.

Most "big" sporting goods stores have SPF rated shirts, some have light weight pants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Tasting on Memorial Day in WPB
« on: May 29, 2017, 03:40:53 PM »
We had an mango tasting on Memorial Day.  Squam provided the Lemonzest; Mr. Clean provided the rest of the mangos.  Squam diligently recorded the brix of each mango.  Two mangos had a 23 brix:  the Dupuis Saigon and Lemonzest.  The Dupuis was unevenly ripened, resulting in part of the mango having a Brix of 23 and another part with a 17 Brix.  Carrie and Angie had similar flavor, but Carrie had more flavor than the Angie.

Angie
Carrie
Dupuis Saigon (Brix 17/23)
Dwarf Hawaiian
Coconut Cream
Rosigold
Lemonzest (Brix 23)
Spirit of 76
Mahachanok
Pickering (did not cut, decided could ripen more)
Nam Doc Mai (did not cut, decided could ripen more)
Duncan (did not cut, decided could ripen more)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sun Protective Clothing - Lifespan
« on: May 28, 2017, 01:50:30 PM »
If you are growing tropical fruit, odds are you are in an area with intense sunlight.  Some clothing has specific SPF ratings for sun exposure to minimize the risk of skin cancer.  Anyone know of the "lifespan" of the sun protection of such clothing?  The effects of washing the cloths has on the protective nature?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help With Guava Variety
« on: May 23, 2017, 10:45:26 PM »
So I have a few Ruby Supreme Guava trees and my neighbor commercially grows Asian Guava, so I'm pretty much covered there. However, I really enjoy the small, yellow-skinned pink fleshed guavas that are no bigger than a golf ball.  I believe a lot of them come from Mexico.  Anybody know what variety that is? Can they be grown adequately in deep south florida area?  Thank You.

-Jon

Jon,

Since you are in the Redlands, you might track down Jorge J. Zaldivar  with PG Tropicals, he's all about guava and has a guava farm in the Redlands.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The story of Two Mahachanok mangos
« on: May 23, 2017, 10:39:06 PM »
I believe ZHPP obtained their original tree from Excalibur.

I believe ZHPP has both: one brought in from Asia and one from Excalibur.

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Thanks for sharing.  These were previously on Curator Choice lists in the past:  Kuini, Angie, Fairchild, Mallika, Nam Doc Mai, Rosigold, Cogshall, Manilita

I've got enough mangos that I have lost interest in driving long distances for mango festivals.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The story of Two Mahachanok mangos
« on: May 23, 2017, 07:20:44 PM »
I understand that both Excalibur and Zills imported mahachanok from Asia, but that the trees are slightly different.  What are the differences?

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