Minimise as many variables as possible and use as many control and extra light plants as possible(would be best for all the plants to be clones but that is impractical to say the least so hopefully siblings should suffice) if you don't already have get a light timer so that the day/night times are consistent. Possibly could benefit from a temp and humidity monitor to make sure is same between control and experiment. Also would be better if you could do a control, a mid light level(18/6) and an absolute light level(24/0)
 I have to do 24/0 during winter for the added heat maybe in summer I can do an experiment but maybe with your findings I won't have to:)
Light cycles really really get me excited I have also wanted to try strange daylengths eg 6/6 or 9/3 and see what if any effects there would be.

As for the growth regulators they are applied by Foliar feeding not hydro so really easy. I purchased Triacontanol and , Brassinolides 0.1%, 6-benzylaminopurine and fulvic acid. I intend to experiment on some of my extra seedlings and I'm hoping to maybe increase the benefit they can derive from 24/0. I have heard nothing but good things about Triacontanol and know weed growers who dramatically decreased the juvenile/vegetative stage and still increased yields. The 6 Benzylaminopurrine I have seen online completely halt verticle growth in some plants and induce side branching and pupping even in very young cactus! plus could be very useful for the verticaly challenged, to increase plant mass, stem girth, root mass decrease node length, increase bud sites, fruit set, fruit quality, resistance to environmental stressors etc etc
Certainly intriguing, inexpensive(for the home grower) and possibly another way to decrease juvenile period?
Certainly the studies and on Triacontanol shows incredible growth rates but no words on how tropicals would react I'm keen to find out. Unless anyone has heard of dangers to health with using these(bear in mind I am many years from fruiting so I would assume if there was toxicity a years flush would make it safe? Or can PGRs permanently alter the gene expression of plants rendering edibles permanently unsafe?)
Either way I will be using these on my roses and ornamentals:)

Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.

Please do!

Very brave!
I thought you are meant to rub on sensitive skin wait a few days then rub on tongue then tiny bite etc etc
Have known people to get mushroom ID wrong and it's not pretty! Some poisons can be accumulative I wouldn't try more of this till you have a proper ID. Hopefully someone out forum knows of it looks interesting!
 Don't want to be the recipient of a Darwin award!

So I just wanted to post an update on the seeds I bought.
So the mangosteens are 1.5months old since they were received in post and planted on 4 April.
I had four of each set germinate.

Here are the "normal" mangosteens


And here are the so called "dwarfs"
(one of them not pictured was very slow to start and is much less developed and the one in the top left is one of each kind inexpertly approach grafted just for fun and to save space)



So not majorly different especially taking into account the dwarf kind had slightly larger seeds.
I will post more pics in a couple months to see if there seems to be any differentiation in growth rates
Very fun so far even if I am very very sceptical of it flowering in only 16 months time lol I will be happy for them just to be alive by then!

I have no idea what the growth rate of mangosteen is normally like, they are pretty slow though.
Do the new leafs always come out red like that even when mature? I was surprised at how beautiful they are a brilliant pink red.

Hi domdonv
Welcome to the forum:)
I'm sure if anybody can help you in your search they can be found here!
Try looking in the buy,sell trade sub forum and you can also post a thread with the words wanted followed by what you are looking for there.
It may be quite expensive to get plant material shipped I think you may also still need a phyto for scions. I have the same problem here so rely mainly on seeds from overseas. Even though seeds need permission in my country too they almost always slip through.

Have you asked at local nurseries I know they may not sell a large variety of cultivators but iv found often people working at nurseries can be enthusiasts themselves and can have some more exciting stuff to share if you ask. I found a guy working the info desk at a large local nursery by chance and he has many mango cultivators the nursery doesn't sell!
The nursery suppliers may also have more variety if you ask.

I got a mexican garcinia last year and was 4 months old when i got it and now it just put out its 2 set of leaves

It's only putting out its second set of true leaves and is over 6 months?
How slow starting is mexican garcinia? Even some of my  mangosteens are putting out their second set of leaves and  they are 1.5months

I am excitedly awaiting seeds from Luc and can't wait to get them! I love opening theail box to find seeds I always drop everything to plant/bag them that minute:)

For your information , all the Theobromas are doing very well at my place , 20 North 300 above sealevel .

luc, have you any experience  grafting your different theobromas?
I found this article but can only see the abstract without paying.
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2405700?uid=3739560&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103734912661

What is the Latin name?

Looks awesome.
Do you have any pics of the tree or foliage?
Whats the taste like?Iv read it is creamy and sub acid.
Are the seeds edible like cacao?
I also read there are efforts to make this the next "superfood" like acai very interesting!
Im sure humidity would need to be on the high side like other theobroma.

Do we have to take priority mail? for me priority, express, airmail and std envelope all take exactly the same here for some reason its always around a month or slightly more so paying extra $$$ for priority is money down the drain...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sopMqwEEwuE This is very interesting...

China is such a diverse and awe inspiringly beautiful country! This video makes me want schisandra even more!
The lignans in the fruit as well as many other chemical compounds give this fruit strong liver protecting abilities I think this is why it was revered as an skin and beauty tonic but has many other benifits. It is also said to improve concentration being a slight stimulant(think this action is down to schizandrinA or B which you find in some pre work out supps interestingly enough). In TCM it has all five tastes and nourishes all three treasures.

The taste is not what I would say is something to be savored rather incorporated into stews, juices etc to extol the benefits(I prefer whole powder in gel caps but dried berries in stews or tea is quite nice)

It seem the eastern prince is self fertile but I would be worried that a non wild developed cultivator might have less medicinal compounds? (not sure about that though) The taste honestly is abit strange so might as well find out what is most powerful medicinally.

NIce things about vines is they can share spaces to overcome dioecy.
I would be really interested if anyone can  source seeds for this I have been trying to grow it for a few years but combination of poor sources and difficult germination has thwarted me.

Tried to sprout seeds s bunch of times nada it needs cold stratification and male and female to fruit. Really want this plant. I use alot of the dry powder of the seeds and fruit.

It will root in water but takes double the time and it struggles when you plant it out I think the roots made in water don't do well in soil.

My mistake:)
Very little info out there on this one that I could find.
Anyone know about it?