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Great pictures and info!

F&S also has Mangifera odorata. It wasn't ripe last week though. We heard this described as having a lychee like quality. I have two recently grafted trees. Would be interested in hearing how the fruit tastes from someone else.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Our Fruitcation to Homestead
« on: June 08, 2015, 05:58:41 PM »
Where did you buy the mangosteen?  I frequent Krome, Spice park, and Fairchild and feel robbed!!! LOL have never seen mangosteen for sale, maybe just not been there at the right time.
The mangosteen was from Robert is Here. It is by the cash register. They had plenty available last week.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Our Fruitcation to Homestead
« on: June 08, 2015, 05:33:56 PM »
What is/are "Homestead Honey lychees"?
A local grower is selling them - big like sweetheart with a chicken tongue seed but much more flavorful. Only being grown in this one spot in the US. My favorite lychee I have had so far. Apparently, the grower sells the fruit - they are more expensive than other lychees. My husband is still talking about these lychees, makes the lychees in our yard taste inferior now  :)

Did they say any specifics where the tree originated from?
No

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Our Fruitcation to Homestead
« on: June 08, 2015, 05:22:41 PM »
What is/are "Homestead Honey lychees"?
A local grower is selling them - big like sweetheart with a chicken tongue seed but much more flavorful. Only being grown in this one spot in the US. My favorite lychee I have had so far. Apparently, the grower sells the fruit - they are more expensive than other lychees. My husband is still talking about these lychees, makes the lychees in our yard taste inferior now  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Our Fruitcation to Homestead
« on: June 08, 2015, 04:46:29 PM »
My husband and I decided to celebrate our 20th wedding anniversary with a fruit trip to Homestead. Our adventures began on Tuesday with a stop by Going Bananas as soon as we drove into Homestead.


We had talked with Don at the Manatee Rare Fruit Council tree sale last month and brought him down a hua moa that Chris Knight had given us to share with Don. Don and Katie were so kind to spend a couple of hours showing us around their beautiful property and talking to us about their adventures. I loved the way they had their place set up - a tasting table so we could taste a few banana varieties we hadn’t tried yet, but are growing (Saba and Goldfinger). We then saw the tissued cultured plants for sale, and then rows and rows of bananas and some other wonderful fruit trees. We were especially impressed by the way Don had his Lychee trees pruned. They looked beautiful, yet the bottom was much more open than most other mature lychee trees I have seen. It was a great way to begin our fruitcation.

We then headed over to Robert is Here - purchased a couple of smoothies (jackfruit and mamey) and I was able to taste mangosteen for the first time.


As we walked around, I felt like I was sitting on a goldmine back at home after seeing the prices of passion fruit and sea sponges. We tasted all of the honey and agreed that our backyard honey was still our favorite, however, we picked up a jar of Palmetto honey as a thank you gift for my parents who stayed at our home to care for our children and fruit trees while we were gone. We walked around looking for invasive lizards - spotted a couple - and strolled around the property there for a while. I ended up throwing away my smoothie - it was too rich tasting - again, made me appreciate our homemade smoothies. As far as fruit for sale, they had a lot of jackfruit, mangos, mangosteen, passion fruit, and some guanabanas. I liked the way they were marketing their dragon fruit.



The next morning, we started off at Fruit and Spice park as soon as they opened.


There was an Inga out front with fruit - not Inga edulis, but still nice to see. We came prepared with knives, but wish we had brought cutting boards as well. We stopped by the lychee trees in the middle of the park first. There were many ripe lychees on the ground to enjoy (we were the only ones at the park for the first 2 hours). 

Walking along the path, we came across a full grown iguana. We offered him some cecropia fruit, but like ourselves, he wasn’t interested.


 
We then headed over to the mangos where we sampled a few before coming to the Lemon Merange mangos. Things got serious and we sat down and stuffed ourselves with PPK and several other varieties. We were amazed that no one else was at the park on such a perfect day.

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  We definitely ate our money’s worth in the first couple of hours. We then were able to sample some ripe cinnamon apple, hog plums, small garcinias, Mammea americana, Meiogyne cylindrocarpa, and some other fruits. By this time, it was 11am and one other family had entered the park. We decided to take the tour which was entertaining. We would have liked the map to have more trees labeled as well as individual trees labeled better, but found the park very enjoyable none the less.



 As we were leaving, I told the tour guide how much I enjoyed the chock anon mango and she sifted through the mangos she had picked that morning and handed us another one to enjoy. We felt this was a great time of year to go with both lychees and mangos being ripe. We stopped by the Mango Cafe, on site, for lunch where we enjoyed a Cuban and lobster roll.

We then headed up to Fairchild Botanical Gardens. The highlights were seeing all of the colorful lizards, the butterfly garden, the shaded canopy areas with streams, and the Whitman’s fruit pavilion. The fruit pavilion was much smaller than we expected, but we enjoyed seeing the durian tree, the mangosteen covered in blooms, and the chupa chupa tree - one of my favorite fruits (Noris Ledesma said it has yet to fruit). It would have been great to see more fruit trees at the park, but we had a very nice time. As we walked out, we saw a beautiful ae ae banana - the third place we saw these beautiful bananas flourishing on this trip.






We headed back to Robert is Here that night to pick up a jackfruit so we could enjoy the smell for the rest of our trip.

Thursday, we started our day by visiting the fruit stands along Krome Ave (all of them). Our two favorites were Margarita’s (where we picked up some dragon fruit cuttings and had a nice conversation with the lady working there) and Brothers (just next door) where the young girl behind the counter helped us pick out the perfectly ripe guanabana and caimitos for breakfast. We sat down outside and enjoyed our fruit despite being surrounded by flies. Thankfully, they had a nice sink out back for us to wash off our guanabana covered hands. We stopped by a few fruit nurseries in the area (we picked up another Jackfruit, but the nurseries did not have anything we were looking for).


 



That afternoon, Noris Ledesma gave us a tour of Fairchild farm, her property, as well as a few other very interesting places. This was the highlight of our trip. Noris is always sharing wonderful stories. We sat down with friends of hers that offered us many mango varieties to try - and they sent us home with mangos as well as Homestead Honey lychees. It was my first time trying Okrung - which ended up being my favorite mango that we tried that day. We learned so much and were so thankful that the last full day of our trip was filled with amazing fellowship and delicious fruit.

 





Friday morning, we had a tour of GRIN in Miami where we picked up some more bananas and other items. Again, we learned a lot and were so grateful for the opportunity to hear about the history of fruit collecting and all of the science taking place in the fruit world - really amazing stuff going on - mind blowing!




We headed home - smiles on our faces, van loaded with fruit and plants, and the smell of jackfruit filling the air.



A Fruitcation was definitely the best way to spend our anniversary. Hopefully we can go to Hawaii or somewhere else to celebrate a future anniversary. Thankful that we planned ahead and were able to pack so much into such a short trip.

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I know some do it but I do not receommend top working that many varieties on one tree.  I would limit it to two varieties.  I also see problems in that you put vigorous growing varieties on the same tree with varieties that arenot vigorous.  This is a no-no when top working.  Oh, just to throw salt in your wound, I do not think you will like Choc Anon.

I just had what was said to be Choc Anon at Fruit and Spice last week and it was fantastic (side by side tasting with PPK). What don't you like about it?

Taste and texture are average at best (I think you will pretty much find the majority here will agree).  I would more classify PPK as fantastic...
Interesting. My husband and I both count PPK as one of our favorite mangos, but felt the choc anon had a little better flavor and texture when tasted side by side with PPK at F&S. I liked it so much that I was going to have my husband graft one (to add to the 20+ mango trees we have growing). I had written it off before based on the info online. Maybe the Choc Anons at F&S were not a typical representation.

Unless it was at a special tasting where the fruit was hand picked from the trees, what you ate would have been drops (please correct me if I am wrong).  A dropped PPK, which would quickly turn to being overripe, would have serious issues with taste and texture that would make it not representative of what it should be.

As to Choc Anon, I may call you crazy  ;) ;D by you saying you really like it however when it all comes down to it, if you like it that is what is important.  I would recommend you trying one again that was known and picked and ripened so you know what you are eating and it is what you like prior to grafting it.  Just my 2 pennies...

These came from the tasting table and were supposedly picked ripe (not off the ground). We did fill up on PPK that were on the ground prior to tasting the choc anon and PPK that were inside. The lady that gave us a tour then gave me another choc anon she had picked but hadn't cut up yet. Good idea - I will look for another one to taste sometime prior to putting one in our yard. We picked up PPK from two different places on Pine Island the week before - one was amazing, the other was very good. Possible that the PPK at F&S were over ripe - thus making the texture of the choc anon better at the time.

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I know some do it but I do not receommend top working that many varieties on one tree.  I would limit it to two varieties.  I also see problems in that you put vigorous growing varieties on the same tree with varieties that arenot vigorous.  This is a no-no when top working.  Oh, just to throw salt in your wound, I do not think you will like Choc Anon.

I just had what was said to be Choc Anon at Fruit and Spice last week and it was fantastic (side by side tasting with PPK). What don't you like about it?

Taste and texture are average at best (I think you will pretty much find the majority here will agree).  I would more classify PPK as fantastic...
Interesting. My husband and I both count PPK as one of our favorite mangos, but felt the choc anon had a little better flavor and texture when tasted side by side with PPK at F&S. I liked it so much that I was going to have my husband graft one (to add to the 20+ mango trees we have growing). I had written it off before based on the info online. Maybe the Choc Anons at F&S were not a typical representation. 

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I know some do it but I do not receommend top working that many varieties on one tree.  I would limit it to two varieties.  I also see problems in that you put vigorous growing varieties on the same tree with varieties that arenot vigorous.  This is a no-no when top working.  Oh, just to throw salt in your wound, I do not think you will like Choc Anon.

I just had what was said to be Choc Anon at Fruit and Spice last week and it was fantastic (side by side tasting with PPK). What don't you like about it?

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If it were my tree, I would remove the green tape. Seems tight especially the piece that is higher up.

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My husband does in arch grafting on our mango trees that have trunk damage and any that have stunted growth. This yields surprisingly good results. They have done best when he pots the seeds up and the. Ants them next to the grafted trees once they are tall enough to graft above any damaged trunk area.

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I think a greenhouse would be the avenue to go down if you are wanting to grow Mangosteen (Garcinia mangostana)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: June 06, 2015, 09:57:18 PM »
Hello everyone. I just recently got the bite to grow fruit trees after having them in my parents yard for years! Now i just bought a home and have a small piece of land to plant stuff. I currently have a Mulberry tree, Guava, Katuk, Native passion vine, and about 25 Papaya trees all under 5 ft tall.

I love plants and animals and have kept my fair share of....venomous snakes, fish, tarantulas, scorpions, monitor lizards....even roaches! as pets.

This is a really great forum and I have learned so much already!

Welcome! We also spent some time keeping venomous snakes, tarantulas...and some unusual arthropods. Now, we just have the large tortoises, some tarantulas, and an every growing collection of fruit trees. Nothing has made us go as crazy (in a good way) as the fruit.

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On your way down to Naples, you could stop by Pine Island (Bokeelia). We picked up some Lemon Meringue mangos from Fruitscapes last week that were amazing. http://www.fruitscapesllc.com. John Painter had some ripe mangos too (PanTropic). His place is a bit before you get to Fruitscapes.

We are in Sarasota and have quite a few mango trees available in 3 and 7 gallon pots (CC, LZ, Juicy Peach, Peach Cobbler, Pina Colada, Pineapple Pleasure...).

Celeste

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I think it depends on whether or not other varieties / species of passion fruit are being grown near the plant where the fruit/seeds came from.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Attracting bees
« on: June 01, 2015, 05:25:30 AM »
We have five hives in our yard, and while not a perennial, the bees love the sunflowers I plant by seed. They collect the pollen from the sunflowers. Lemon queen sunflowers do very well. They also like moss rose which we have planted as a ground cover. Having a consistent source of fresh water around helps as well. Planting flowers in clumps, by species, tends to attract more bees than spreading flowering plants throughout the yard. The sunflowers we grow are planted in our raised garden beds, very close together.

The fruiting plants our bees are most attracted to in our yard are the bananas, blueberries, avocados, passion fruit, lychees, and pumpkin flowers.

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Inga edulis (the true Inga edulis)
Passiflora edulis
Lychee
Banana (maqueno, sweetheart, namwa of other delicious variety)
Cherimoya (Wayne's Dream cherimoya is my current favorite)

Last week, PPK mango would have been on my top 5, but now I am dealing with mango sap allergy. That time of year again.

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I have grown them from seed and from cutting of a very good Passiflora edulis. The original plant was very productive and the fruit was a nice red/purple, very aromatic, with great flavor. Personally, I like the fruit that came from cuttings better, but the seedlings I have grown did fruit nicely within a year when grown in a nice patch of soil amended with horse manure and worm castings. I have had seedlings fruit while in a gallon size pot as well - again, taking about a year. When selling passion fruit plants, I only sell ones that I have grown from cuttings, just to help ensure that the fruit and plant will have the same qualities.

We grow Possum Purple, the mystery reddish/purple fruit variety I mentioned above, flavicarpa (yellow), and one that was sold to us as Fredrick's purple. So far, I like the fruit from the red/purple one the best, however, I find the fruits taste best the second year. We then pull the plants up after production slows down around the end of year 3 and replant with another plant grown from cuttings. I just planted seeds from Passiflora ligularis, time will tell how those do.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Younghan's Gold White Sapote
« on: May 19, 2015, 12:53:29 PM »
I have tasted Younghans (from Wayne). It is very good! I would say the best white sapote, but it is the only variety I have eaten. We are growing Redlands and Younghans, but they were just planted earlier this year.

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we grow perennial peanut around our bananas, tea garden, and pumpkin/tomato area. Our Inga trees are by themselves. Are you sure you have Inga edulis? Many nurseries are selling Inga trees as Inga edulis (even Hopkins) but they are not that species. I haven't seen anyone in FL with Inga edulis...but would love to find someone growing it here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kesar Mango
« on: April 20, 2015, 06:41:35 PM »
I have a nice Kesar in a 7g pot available. Plan on bringing it to the Manatee County rare fruit tree sale May 17th if it hasn't sold before the sale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Barbados Cherry
« on: April 18, 2015, 02:12:31 PM »
FL Sweet is a good one. They can be propagated by cuttings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Visit to Jim West's Place in Ecuador
« on: April 17, 2015, 07:21:21 PM »
This is an old post, but for those that end up visiting Ecuador - When we lived there, the Sunday market in Puyo had a great assortment of tropical fruits from the jungle (along with other interesting items).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Passion Fruit pollination
« on: April 17, 2015, 07:19:07 PM »
Our first Passiflora edulis vine produced hundreds of fruits without a second vine and without hand pollination. The bees do a great job pollinating.



Fruit dropped in a single day. The vine produced well for 2.5 years. After that, we replanted.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rubus glaucus in Florida?
« on: March 17, 2015, 11:27:04 AM »
Has anyone attempted to grow Rubus glaucus (mora) in Florida? I assume we do not have the elevation required.

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