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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Miracle fruit tree - still alive?
« on: May 01, 2017, 11:36:16 AM »
Sounds like something changed in your soil conditions along with other "environmental" factors above.  This is generally a sign of shock in the roots, and possibly some rot.

You may need to make a more neutral, well draining mixture and start it fresh in new soil while it recovers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Suitable Lychee for So Cal, Kaimana, Sweet Heart, Ha Kip, or Brewester?
« on: May 01, 2017, 11:28:08 AM »
Excalibur is adamant that Sweetheart and Hak Ip are exactly the same.

That said, the most precocious I have and healthy is the Mauritus.  I am very happy with this lychee.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Japanese inspired ultra low espalier mango experiment
« on: April 29, 2017, 01:40:43 PM »
Espalier mangos look incredible and maybe a great idea.

I wonder if this will work with those weeping varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Teen Mangos
« on: April 28, 2017, 08:20:31 PM »
I hope I'm in the top 5.  Mine have a while yet to go, though.  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Teen Mangos
« on: April 28, 2017, 07:09:58 PM »
Not my tree, sadly.   Mine are still maturing.  I have purple and lemon drop.

This tree, however, is mature.  Owner asked me not to say who it belongs to, so I'll respect the wishes.  I still was allowed to take a photo of a Miamian mangosteen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Teen Mangos
« on: April 28, 2017, 06:43:03 PM »
or, Mangosteen.   Whichever you want to call them.  :P

Anyhow, I found this ping pong ball floating in the tree.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rose apple/wax apple
« on: April 28, 2017, 06:38:46 PM »
My wax jambu is blooming right now.  Love this little tree.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: broadleaf Papaya Update
« on: April 28, 2017, 06:34:00 PM »
Quote from: behlgarden on April 28, 2017, 04:47:05 PM
I had a beautiful Broadleaf that I got from Gary die on me this spring, its root was rotted, not sure what caused it as it was not overwatered at all.

Probably nematodes

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: broadleaf Papaya Update
« on: April 28, 2017, 01:27:57 PM »
For those having to endure long germination times, I'll give you a pointer for the papaya seeds.

Simply put the seeds in the pot and keep the soil moist outside in filtered light/shade for 3 days.  Then, sit the pot in your garage.

They'll start popping up within days.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the Absolute best dwarf mango for Brevard county FLorida?
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:59:11 PM »
NamDocMai does well as a compact mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will Cherimoya grow and fruit Properly in Miami ???
« on: April 27, 2017, 12:49:07 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

Now I want a Cherimoya.  I'll stand it on a 5 foot planter stand and see what happens.

Got any at Excal bsb?

;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to prune this super lanky coconut cream mango?
« on: April 24, 2017, 09:13:17 PM »
Per Excalibur, Coconut cream grows in a weeping willow fashion at full growth with branches hitting the ground with fruit if the cap point is too low.

That said, I had to pug mine when it showed signs of disease and an ambrosria attack in the center of the trunk.  Caught it in time and saved it.

The next step is training the new head to reach 8 feet before encouraging branching and the guy will simply have a heel.

Just make sure if you pug it, get it to grow tall enough to deal with the adult weeping branches later on.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Ponderosa Lemon vs NZL
« on: April 23, 2017, 08:46:56 PM »
I've had 4 different ponderosas over the years.

The only one that tasted decent was the one grown in Mobile AL.  The farmer market would buy then from me for $1 each and sell them for $4.99.

They were huge and tasted as a normal lemon would taste, but maybe a little better.

The other 3 trees grown more southward weren't that great and had thick, thick rinds.

All of them grew like circular weeping willow bushes and full of giant spines.

Other than being a giant lemon and great for zesting, unless they are grown in cooler climates, I just don't think the taste is all that.

Mine would set a huge crop one year, and a scarce one the next

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jak fruit? Brevard Rare Fruit Tree Sale
« on: April 22, 2017, 07:36:11 PM »
I found a beautiful pitomba.. in WalMart.  So, that's where mine came from.  lol

Flowers and never fruits, so probably needs pollination assitance.

Got a handful of pitangatubas from Adam this year.  Lovely little treelings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jak fruit? Brevard Rare Fruit Tree Sale
« on: April 21, 2017, 05:58:06 PM »
Whatever they're doing, they're good at sales.

Everytime I go there, they're out of numerous varieties.  I'm looking at them, but red tape everywhere.  All of it is sold--whole rows.

Just sold and standing there teasing me.  The horror!

I have gotten a lot of trees from PIN over the years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jak fruit? Brevard Rare Fruit Tree Sale
« on: April 19, 2017, 04:27:57 PM »
Quote from: bsbullie on April 19, 2017, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Capt Ram on April 19, 2017, 12:58:18 PM
Rob
I   have room for 1 more Jak-- ive got MI1 and Excl red already-- what would you suggest that will give great fruit and a lot of it - Im in Lake Worth -

Bangkok Lemon/Krunchy Lemon or J30.

+10

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will Cherimoya grow and fruit Properly in Miami ???
« on: April 19, 2017, 02:00:00 PM »
I'm fine with Geffner too.  That's the Atemoya I'm growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jak fruit? Brevard Rare Fruit Tree Sale
« on: April 19, 2017, 01:54:49 PM »
Last time I was at Pine Island Nursery, the jackfruits they had were tiny, freshly grafted, and the variety was unknown/unidentified.

I was nice and bought one only because they were selling them for $10 and the lady who barely spoke english drove me all the way there on the cart after I asked to see their dragonfruit / pitaya collection.

She thought I said Jackfruit and Papaya.

So, since she spent 15 minutes searching for the Jackfruit, I bought one to avoid the embarrassment of further confusion, smiled and left.

No idea what variety it is, but the little guy is precocious.

That said, I recommend Excalibur Red and Lemon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: April 15, 2017, 09:36:57 PM »
Quote from: shinzo on April 14, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Quote from: Viking Guy on April 14, 2017, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: fyliu on April 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: behlgarden on April 14, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
If you want good shape, dont let low branches get longer than 12 inches. normally I let it grow 18 inches, then I cut at 12-14 inches, and remove leaf exposing node on either side for it to start branching out.
Sounds good.
So you strip leaves on these even after the spring to encourage more growth?
I started a new garden this year and have 5 cherimoyas that I grafted various varieties onto. Trying to do it correctly from the start using the current best practice. They're all 2-3 ft tall right now.

I just wait for the tree to tell me.  Once I see it discoloring the leaves, I let about half turn yellow so it pulls good energy and then strip them all off.  New growth will be there in no time.
If there is no discoloration you  also strip off the leaves  after pruning the scaffold branches? if so, does it comme off easily without injuring the petiole spot? i have a cherimoya tree at the same stage of spaugh's tree and i am also interested by the detailed technique to shape it correctly.

Mine discolors every year, but if it didn't, the leaves pinch easily and you can prune them off too if you're uncomfortable with peeling them back.  I find once they're expiring, they come off easily.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Painting trees
« on: April 15, 2017, 03:28:11 AM »
Quote from: Millet on April 14, 2017, 08:14:04 PM
Citradia, I removed on inward growing branch just this day. The choice of branches to eliminate is based on the concept that any space with in the canopy must be covered by only one branch.  It is not good to let surplus branches occupy the same aerial space.  Anyway, thinning must not deplete any canopy sector.  Suckers can be kept (if you wish) only if they occupy free spaces. After a few years they bear fruit, BUT ALL INTERIOR SUCKERS MUST BE CUT OUT.  Vegetation free canopy spaces must be avoided since they reduce yield. (The Genus Citrus)

Very correct.  Key words, "free spaces."

Definitely remove inward facing branches which are crossing and touching other properly formed branches, but try to do so without causing much exposure to the canopy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top these cherimoyas?
« on: April 14, 2017, 01:38:28 PM »
Quote from: fyliu on April 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: behlgarden on April 14, 2017, 12:32:24 PM
If you want good shape, dont let low branches get longer than 12 inches. normally I let it grow 18 inches, then I cut at 12-14 inches, and remove leaf exposing node on either side for it to start branching out.
Sounds good.
So you strip leaves on these even after the spring to encourage more growth?
I started a new garden this year and have 5 cherimoyas that I grafted various varieties onto. Trying to do it correctly from the start using the current best practice. They're all 2-3 ft tall right now.

I just wait for the tree to tell me.  Once I see it discoloring the leaves, I let about half turn yellow so it pulls good energy and then strip them all off.  New growth will be there in no time.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: April 14, 2017, 12:15:57 PM »
Quote from: AlwaysHotinFL on April 14, 2017, 11:02:56 AM
I'm curious pineislander, you associated with Pine Island Nursery at all? Even if not any stories/fun facts/hints etc about getting pitahaya or other tropical fruits from there?

I know I wanted varieties from PIN, but never could get them in Stock.  I ended up finding the cultivars elsewhere and obtaining cuttings and rooted my own.

I have the following 5 varieties:

American Beauty
Physical Graffiti
Halleys Comet
Purple Haze
Yellow Dragon

My advice is just find someone who has them already, and take a disease free cutting from it.  There are probably lower branches which will get pruned and discarded anyways, and you'll get the cuttings for $5-$10 each.

They'll root themselves within a couple weeks when it's hot.  Very simple.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba; Believe the hype.
« on: April 14, 2017, 12:03:41 PM »
I grabbed a handful of these from Adam FFF while in Orlando a little over a month ago.  Will hopefully have some fruit to try in the next year or so.

So far, there is large variation not just in texture of leaves, but color and shape as well.  All seedlings.

Will be interesting.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Painting trees
« on: April 14, 2017, 10:49:25 AM »
Quote from: robbyhernz on April 13, 2017, 02:04:58 PM
I just put 4 citrus that had been in containers for 4 years in the ground and i started noticing sunburn! VERY SURPRISED, especially with my grapefruit since they love heat! Anyways, i just painted all of the trunks white as well. I've seen them painted white all my life so i figured it wouldn't hurt! I also painted some bare root pecans and peaches as well just while they acclimate. i don't know that i will do it once they are established.

I'm curious what others think as well.

Don't be surprised here.

Citrus are a closed canopy tree, meaning they prefer to shade their trunks.  This is why pruning citrus is not a good idea other than for size control and removing dead, damaged or diseased limbs.  If you open their bark up to direct sunlight, they will get sunburn.

When shopping for citrus trees, avoid the long bare sticks if you plan to plant in direct sunlight.  If you do, leave it in the pot and keep it in filtered light until it closes its canopy.

The exact opposite is true for stonefruits, apples, pears, etc.  They are open canopy, and prefer wind and sunlight reaching their inner canopy.  The only thing you'd need to paint on a stonefruit would be possibly around the graft unions, otherwise they're not going to sunburn like a citrus would.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Wonderful Halos
« on: April 14, 2017, 08:42:24 AM »
Quote from: achetadomestica on April 13, 2017, 11:54:19 PM
How many do you want? They would be small in citri cups. I will find out if they are still available and get back to you.
There was also Early pride and possibly something else available, I can check what else is available.
Mike

I'm assuming these are new grafts on a young rootstock or other?  I do prefer older candidates, but with Tango being so limited I may have to take what I can get unless I wish to drive a 24 hr round trip.

Then some of these varieties I want I can't find anywhere, or when I do find them they're in terrible condition and not worth the effort.

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