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Citrus General Discussion / Re: new greenhouse planning
« on: July 24, 2017, 07:42:10 PM »
Thank you for the kind words. 

I'm really happy that things are moving along well now.  I was worried for a while that my foundation plan wouldn't work and I'd have to restart from scratch.  Susanne, if you build a similar greenhouse I definitely recommend the same manufacturer (Conley's) as they have engineered designs for various wind and snow loads. 

I took some time off from work this week.  Started stripping the forms off today to get a look at the wall.  There's a few air bubbles where the concrete didn't settle but I'm going to patch them, should be okay.   

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: new greenhouse planning
« on: July 23, 2017, 08:45:38 AM »
Took a brief hiatus to have a baby.  Resumed work starting in early summer.   It took a ridiculous amount of effort to build the concrete forms.  If I was restarting from scratch I would instead use masonry block or rented forms instead of building my own.  Yesterday was concrete pour day, forms held strong.   Next steps are to pull and stack the form wood, insulate the foundation, level the dirt inside, backfill, run utilities, then assemble the greenhouse itself.   The greenhouse kit looks extremely well manufactured.














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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whole new subcategories of citrus
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:08:46 PM »
I believe the stability of citrus you refer to is from human selection by planting seeds of varieties they've found wild or bred, which works for citrus prior to the discovery of cloning techniques because they often come true from seed.   Apples not only don't come true from seed, they are known to produce offspring exceptionally different from their parents.  I don't know much about the history of eating apples but I expect the oldest apple varieties are simply the best varieties available at the time grafting was discovered.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: whole new subcategories of citrus
« on: June 13, 2017, 10:27:01 AM »
I want more kumquat hybrids.  There don't seem to be any active breeding programs that I'm aware of.  Small size and sweet edible skin seem like great attributes to incorporate into popular varieties but the existing hybrids are lacking.

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I've received trifoliate orange *fruits* from ebay and forum members and succcessfully sprouted the seeds.  I've never tried dry seed.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: frost above freezing
« on: May 09, 2017, 03:16:29 PM »
Thanks.  I suspected this was the case.  Hope they are doing alright, I know some had tender new growth and I have a mango outside also.

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Citrus General Discussion / frost above freezing
« on: May 08, 2017, 03:29:24 PM »
Weather forecast for last night and tonight is 37F.   I noticed frost on my windshield this morning but NOAA says it never got below 36F in my area.  Is frost above 32F damaging to frost-sensitive plants?  I know most citrus can handle down to ~30F but it still makes me uncomfortable.

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No, mine are always glossy dark green.  I feel guilty pulling them as they look so nice.

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I believe someone (Millet?) has posted before about carefully peeling the outer seed coat off to help with this particular problem.  Never tried it myself as I've only intentionally grown trifoliate orange seedlings.  The majority of my seedlings don't live more than a few months, but enough do that it meets my rootstock needs.   

I've accidently sprouted many kumquat seedlings by spitting the seeds back into the container.  They look really nice, but I've never let them grow up.

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Yup, its just like gluten-free labelling on things that would never contain gluten.  Marketing.

I think its hilarious that citrus is often non-vegetarian, the wax coating may be made from crushed lac beetles (shellac)

No, I don't think they have to pay for non-GMO label, but they do pay to be USDA certified organic. 

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Minneola Tangelo is very good.  Close to meyer lemon

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Did demand also drop to match?  If not, who is missing their grapefruits?  My grocery stores are still well stocked.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best mandarin recommendations?
« on: April 10, 2017, 12:23:24 PM »
If what I'm getting from the store now is Tango/W Murcott, I'd recommend that.  I like it better than the Gold Nuggets.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Halos Wonderful
« on: April 10, 2017, 12:21:22 PM »
""... this is what you find in Cutie and Halo boxes," she explains. "Those are trademark names for what are usually multiple cultivars: clementines before Christmas — usually fina sodea clementines or clemenules — then after Christmas the W Murcott afourer and tango. But mostly tango.""

from http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-c1-citrus-flavors-20160411-story.html

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Perhaps somebody can process them into Five-Alive :)

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Hmm I saw that but thought it looked very minor.  I'm not very familiar with spider mites.  I will wipe them off and apply a soap spray, thanks.

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A bunch of old leaves one of my minneolas and an adjacent tree dropped at once, leaving their petiole stubs behind.  These trees seem quite healthy otherwise, and have large new growth flushes that are currently expanding.  I understand that old leaves normally drop entirely, and leaving the petiole stub indicates stress of some kind.  The temperature has made some drastic swings lately, but all the other trees are fine.  I'm wondering if perhaps they are too close to the propane backup heater.



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: First pomelo
« on: March 11, 2017, 06:05:34 PM »
Its like a grapefruit, you don't want to eat the membrane.  I cut a slice in it, tear a big chunk out, and peel the rind & membranes off as you go and eat the flesh.  If you cut it all up with a knife you generally slice up the membranes making them harder to peel.

 I guess you cuold use a spoon, might be too dense though.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: transplanting 10ft tall trees
« on: February 26, 2017, 07:19:51 PM »
I wasn't aware this even existed, thank you!  I will check it out. 

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: transplanting 10ft tall trees
« on: February 26, 2017, 02:30:16 PM »
Thank you.   Yes, I've been trying to keep them wet and had them back in the ground at new home within a few hours.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / transplanting 10ft tall trees
« on: February 26, 2017, 11:33:56 AM »
Last year I bought some fruit trees in 3-5gal pots to plant at my new house, but ran out of time getting them over there so I stuck them in the vegetable garden at my old place, spaced about 3ft apart.   These are a mix of stone fruit, cherries, and apples.   Of course with this warm winter the stone fruits are getting ready to bloom already.  I started hand-digging out the trees with a small trowel to avoid damaging the roots that had grown since putting them in the garden.  I moved the two biggest trees over the past few days and will keep doing so in order of bloom (peach first).

What is the likelyhood of success here?  I know barerooting and moving larger trees is far from ideal, along with moving outside full dormancy. 





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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Yuzu & Sudachi
« on: February 24, 2017, 09:09:09 PM »
Is 9lb lemon "ponderosa"?  If so I've had one.  It tastes just like regular grocery store lemon, but is as large as a pummelo.  You could make a small pitcher of lemonade with one, but beyond the novelty I don't think it is worthwhile.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: The best way to clear grass under trees
« on: February 24, 2017, 09:06:42 PM »
I occasionally look up the health safety of various chemicals I use, and I recall glyphosate being quite safe.  It is amazingly effective at its purpose, I'd be sad to find out otherwise.

Here is the US Forestry Service data on glyphosate including extensive detail on environmental and health effects.  https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fsbdev2_025810.pdf


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: The best way to clear grass under trees
« on: February 24, 2017, 03:57:13 PM »
Here's a thought. If you're convinced you need an herbicide to clear out around your trees, and you have a dooryard orchard situation, why not apply the Roundup manually rather than by spraying? Just mix it up in a bucket, get an old mop and mop under your trees.

You might get strange looks from your neighbors, but you guarantee no overspray, and IIRC, glyphosate is absorbed through the leaves and breaks down quickly in contact with soil (not that it's breakdown components are that great, but...).

My mom does this with good results, using a paint brush

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